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  posted on 4/7/2017 at 02:22 PM
Just wondering how many here use Spotify? I have been using the Free version for PC or Laptops at home and have been truly amazed at the amount of stuff on there. All the various reissues/remasters and all the bonus discs. Boxsets and imports. So much stuff there.

I have (as has everyone) collected an entire room full of albums, tapes and Cds over my life and in one download, it is all there for everyone. I almost feel robbed.

Lately I have rarely pulled out an album or CD as it takes longer to stand up for get something than to just click.

Love how it gives you compilations and links you to other releases that an artist has guested on. Found so many "guest" spots that I never knew some artists did. Very handy and informative.

Anyone else as lazy as I am?

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  posted on 4/7/2017 at 02:35 PM
Call me a lazy one, too! I've been using the free version on my phone about a year now and love it!! As you said, you can access any song you've ever heard. It's wonderful and the way of the future.

 

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  posted on 4/7/2017 at 02:39 PM
I have used it religiously for about 3 years now, it literally gets me through my work day, to me the $9.99 paid subscription is worth every penny. AND, I enjoy the offline option (download your chosen songs to your phone when on WIFI so they are available offline/areas without signal) so you don't have to use your phone data. I must say its pretty cool to have EVERY ABB, Mule, TTB, DTB album/compilation/single on my phone without having to use my data.

I remember the day that the A&R re-master came out about this time last year and I was dying to hear it and BAM, there it was, ready to roll on Spotify. Same thing happened recently with the TTB Oakland and ABB Foxbox. Like I said, worth every penny of the paid subscription for a cube monkey like me!

And pixielfs' post reminded me of all of the Bloomfield I have saved as well, by way of Al Kooper. Super Session for the win!

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  posted on 4/7/2017 at 02:49 PM
Same here but I'm still old school. I record the albums and convert the to disc. Don't make sense but hell I'm a collector!

 

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  posted on 4/7/2017 at 02:58 PM
I already own much of what I listen to so don't really need to download. But have a comp fed into my sound system so it is quicker.

Plus I love testing out new stuff without shelling out $$$. Plus the ability to find things that you didn't know existed.

I was reluctant for some reason that I can't even think of.

If any of you want to sample some Canadianmule playing - search for Jasen Colson - we released a single a little while ago. Don't use this site to try and sell anything but as you already have Spotify and can listen for free. Have fun and tell me what you think. The Two songs are Hard Love Livin' and Roll Me.

I also enjoy the playlists that people put together. Sometimes I just let them roll.

 

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  posted on 4/7/2017 at 08:46 PM
I am a dinosaur. I went from big record collection to big CD collection. I bought a lot of CD bootlegs in the 90s - $30 for a single CD, $60 for a double CD.

I'm dumb with tech. For a while i had a CD to CD burner, but it died. I've never downloaded or burned from the net, never used iTunes or an iPod, just a boombox or CD player.

I just need to get my act together. I mailed CDs for years but have missed out on a zillion great amazing shows i could have downloaded or torrented. On the other hand, i have almost 3,000 cds and barely listen to half of them.


I haven't seen spotify, but my wife uses Pandora, and I like how that mixes in some stuff they recommend based on your likes.

 

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  posted on 4/7/2017 at 10:15 PM
You are not the only dinosaur around here, Jim. I have a room absolutely stuffed with music. One half is jammed with albums and the other half is CDs. In a corner are stacked boxes full of cassettes.

Half the CDs are official releases and the other half (or more) is all burned shows. Years ago I stopped trading as I couldn't possibly stay on top of listening to them all even once. Kenny/OldDirtRoad (RIP) would mail me 100 discs at a time sometimes. Even after I stopped trading, I would get packages stuffed with CDs from friends here and elsewhere. Still get the odd package as a surprise. Just from the ABB/Mule/DTB - I have close to a thousand CDs. LOL

Dinosaur too. But Spotify has been great and easy. Found lots of stuff that I never knew existed or were expensive imports that I would shell out the cash for. Also the bonus CDs that came with re-releases that again I already had the original and wouldn't buy another copy to get the bonus disc.

Almost depressing to spend my life paying for and collecting and now it is out there for free. LOL

You should get the free version sometime just to look around.

 

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  posted on 4/7/2017 at 10:18 PM
Hey Jim - just thought of it. Sent you another PM a while back. Not sure if you got it. Gonna add to that collection for you.

 

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  posted on 4/8/2017 at 01:51 AM
"Almost depressing to spend my life paying for and collecting and now it is out there for free. LOL"

Don't feel that way. You were supporting musicians by buying their stuff...

Spotify is great as a consumer but totally **** for the people that make music. The royalties paid are laughable and the whole thing does nothing but devalue music. The next generation (or even the current one to be honest) will never put as high a value on music as we all did historically as they have little investment in it. No need to save pocket money, no need to spend time walking to the record store...

Double edged sword but on the whole symbolic of everything that's going wrong in terms of wider society and support for creative arts. And also precisely the reason why it's now so ludicrously expensive to get concert tickets as it's the only revue stream for musicians now.

Video killed the radio star... Yes I know, gotta move with the times....

Sorry for the rant but I feel quite passionately about this stuff

 

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  posted on 4/8/2017 at 06:03 AM
I hear you and agree Jules but I feel that the results of the current state of the music are positive and negative. As the tradition music industry has taken a hit, it has driven people back to seeing their local musicians. Live music is thriving here with virtually most bars/pubs having some form of live music. Ten years ago, it was all just a DJ or music service piped in.

I support musicians as I am one. I do have to be honest that over the years working in music, I got a lot of free music. Program director - I had a pile of music sent to me daily. Record company - I got everything handed to me.

Same thing for shows, I have seen thousands and the majority I saw for free.

But as the industry fell apart, it opened up things for the local players as now some of that money ends up in their pockets. I have friends that are again playing without needing a second (real) job. Just being a musician for a living which hasn't been the case for a long time. It even brought me out and back playing the clubs which I had soured on years ago. I am even picking up studio work which had almost completely dried up. Great paying studio work? No. But enough to make me happy.

So many people just recording independently and succeeding at selling their product. Not sales in the millions but sales they would not have had under the old regime. And cash from those sales actually going to the artist. That was rarely the case under the tradition system. Artists would rarely see cash unless it sold in the millions.

I prefer to pay a cover at the door and support local players that need the cash as opposed to going and giving Mick Jagger more money. In general, those really expensive tickets are for artists that made and snorted away millions and want to refill their accounts. Sure costs have risen and touring is higher but those insane prices are pure greed.

Positive effect from things like Spotify is that it gives people a chance to hear your music and experiment. Before you would generally just flip by an artist that you didn't know. Now you can click and give it a chance.

Pros and cons.

Can't go to the local store and buy the CD anymore - they closed those stores and the ones left are on the verge of closing. Musicians have to go with the flow or just perish.

I find music is thriving but in a different way.

 

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  posted on 4/8/2017 at 07:12 AM
Two great posts above from jules and mule...both nailed it.

I do not have spotify , but my son has it and raves about it. My wife uses Pandora.
I am always on the look out for something new and digging into the past of things I might have missed. Might give it a try. Thanks

 

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  posted on 4/8/2017 at 08:21 AM
I love spotify. Release radar is my favorite playlist as it gives me songs that just came out. I also browse many music sites looking for new albums that sound interesting and I add them to a playlist. After I listen to an album I rate it and based on my ratings I decide what to buy on vinyl. I like collecting music and I love having music at the click of a mouse.


 

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  posted on 4/8/2017 at 08:26 AM
Just a playlist of some stuff I've heard recently

https://open.spotify.com/user/ipowrie/playlist/73kQusuwXbUiy9HGMlC3cH

 

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Just a playlist of some stuff I've heard recently

https://open.spotify.com/user/ipowrie/playlist/73kQusuwXbUiy9HGMlC3cH


I was going to put a link to the songs that I am on but couldn't find an address bar anywhere. How did you do that? LOL

 

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  posted on 4/8/2017 at 09:31 AM
https://open.spotify.com/track/3k9G10Le4ThEppYe534MJA

 

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  posted on 4/9/2017 at 11:59 AM
Media OD. Streaming media isn't free. You are simply paying your ISP instead of the artists. When you back off to fifty bucks a month for phone, text, and a few gigs of data for essential communication, ditch the youtube, you will find buying records and music trading regains its magic.
 

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  posted on 4/9/2017 at 02:17 PM
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Spotify is great as a consumer but totally **** for the people that make music. The royalties paid are laughable and the whole thing does nothing but devalue music. The next generation (or even the current one to be honest) will never put as high a value on music as we all did historically as they have little investment in it. No need to save pocket money, no need to spend time walking to the record store...


As an example, I have music, which in this case we will use the song "Another Brick in the Wall Part II," that I in my lifetime have purchased on: single vinyl 33 1/3, LP vinyl, 8-track, cassette, compact disc, Amazon music, and no less than four Pink Floyd compilations and re-release special editions. I also am a paid Spotify subscriber and would happily pay more than $9.99 a month.

How many more times do I need to make sure that the guys in Pink Floyd get a cut every time I listen to this song? In perpetuity? I have books that I have read several times. Should I have cut a royalty to the author every time I finish it?

I'm not talking about Napster, et al, and the whole history of bootlegs and bootleg streaming. I'm talking about a listening license I've purchased ten times now. When does the art start and stop and the business start and stop?

 

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  posted on 4/9/2017 at 02:51 PM
It comes down to what you enjoy. If it is just click n' play for you, nothing wrong with that. A lot of the fun for me with music is the search, trading, the social aspect, playing music, discovering and seeing bands live. Not talking about Floyd or the Stones, it is the living breathing music and the mystery and magic around the whole cultural process.

It isn't just ten bucks for Spotify, that is another bill on top of all the other things that jack the bundle up to what, 150 bucks, 200?

Anyway it isn't so much a money thing, it is more about whether you enjoy browsing bargain bins, trading with friends, seeing bands vs. having all the media on the planet dumped on you so you are paralyzed by overload to the point where it is all just a nauseating lowest common denominator blitz.

There is a lot more to music than meets the ear.

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  posted on 4/9/2017 at 02:55 PM
hey how did Canadian Mule's signature end up in my post?

 

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  posted on 4/9/2017 at 03:24 PM
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Anyway it isn't so much a money thing, it is more about whether you enjoy browsing bargain bins, trading with friends, seeing bands vs. having all the media on the planet dumped on you so you are paralyzed by overload to the point where it is all just a nauseating lowest common denominator blitz.


If I use the Spotify app I'm merely a part of the LCD? Dang. That's heavy.

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  posted on 4/9/2017 at 03:52 PM
That LCD bit doesn't apply to anyone here, we're all old school fans and musicians, you are a trader. Just making the point that rarity is value. Think King Midas. For me somehow the whole cybermedia blitz takes the fun out of it. Don't get me wrong, I mean without the internet I never would have discovered Jess Greenberg, for example. https://youtu.be/ed_w6Ysprps

 

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  posted on 4/9/2017 at 06:26 PM
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It comes down to what you enjoy. If it is just click n' play for you, nothing wrong with that. A lot of the fun for me with music is the search, trading, the social aspect, playing music, discovering and seeing bands live. Not talking about Floyd or the Stones, it is the living breathing music and the mystery and magic around the whole cultural process.

It isn't just ten bucks for Spotify, that is another bill on top of all the other things that jack the bundle up to what, 150 bucks, 200?

Anyway it isn't so much a money thing, it is more about whether you enjoy browsing bargain bins, trading with friends, seeing bands vs. having all the media on the planet dumped on you so you are paralyzed by overload to the point where it is all just a nauseating lowest common denominator blitz.

There is a lot more to music than meets the ear.

Some folks like to go on safari, others like safari parks.



That is the beauty of it. You can do both as you don't have to stop buying/collecting if you have Spotify. In fact, the ability to listen to albums by artists that are unknown to me increases the odds of me buying something by them. Without it, I would never hear it.

As for additional costs, I already have unlimited data with my plan. House full of people on boxes, you have to have it. So no extra cost as far as Spotify for me. If we include the internet bill then this forum is costing us too.

Like BHawk, I have given the music industry a fortune and will continue to. Already have thousands of albums, CDs and tapes that my kids have no interest in. My wife always says not to die and stick her with all this stuff. LOL Nice to know that is what worries her if I'm gone.

 

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  posted on 4/9/2017 at 06:28 PM
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  posted on 4/9/2017 at 06:40 PM
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Just making the point that rarity is value.

That's only for commodities. If you want to sell a rare album, yes, you'll get more money if there are fewer copies out there. If you're talking about experiences or the emotional value of a work of art, it's not true at all. Unless maybe you're a snob who loses interest in stuff if too many people like it, but I don't think a lot of people really work that way. Scarcity or difficulty isn't connected to the enjoyment of the music. It's just a question of what kind of experience you enjoy. For some people digging in crates is part of the fun and for other people it isn't, that's all. How you encounter a song or an artist becomes part of the story for you after the fact, but it's not better just because it's harder to get. After all a lot of people found their favorite bands through a sibling or parent or friend.

 

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  posted on 4/9/2017 at 06:59 PM
CM is right you can do both. I have torrented mass and done plenty web music. And Marley is right that digging tbru crates is a drag.

No point bashing the bible while sitting in church - don't know why but I just get the feeling that somehow it is all gettng hoovered away from us, and becoming just another shiny distraction to lock us into our computers.

How long before our only access to media is thru the cloud and the price starts climbing?

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