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  posted on 2/15/2017 at 08:10 AM
Charlie Daniels: It’s Only a Matter of Time Before There Is Blood on the Streets


Over a century ago, the United States of America went through a divisive and bloody Civil War that separated the people of this nation bone from marrow. It split friends, families and eventually the nation itself as a line was drawn dividing the Union States of the North from the newly formed Confederacy of the Southern States.

Ostensibly, the war that followed was fought over the abolition of slavery, a devilish practice that never should have been allowed in the first place, and although it was the basic issue for the conflict – as is the case so much of the time – there were a myriad of other issues involved.

One – in my opinion – was just plain stubbornness and pride and the dogged determination that the South would not let itself be told what to do by the other half of the country, but trade, tariffs and different attitudes and beliefs about just how far a federal government could go in setting the tone and making laws to be obeyed by all the states were also involved.

The point I'm trying to make is that the feelings festered so long and ran so deep that men whose fathers had stood shoulder to shoulder in the war for independence faced off across fields of battle and killed each other.

The Civil War never should have happened, and had cooler heads prevailed on both sides, never would have. Southerners had to know that slavery was an abomination to the principles they had fought and died for in the Revolution.

No man has the right to own another man, to reap the fruits of his labor for nothing, to consider his children nothing more than commodities to be sold off or traded away on a whim, separating
families and breeding human beings like livestock.

But instead of acknowledging the very obvious evil of this situation, politicians from the South, convinced that the economy of the Southern States was dependent on slavery, chose to become a separate nation and soon after over six hundred thousand Americans lost their lives in a senseless war that would set the Southern States back a half century.

Surely, had it been approached by fair, level-headed men on both sides of the issue, abolition could have been achieved without war. But the rhetoric grew ever hotter. Brash young men on both sides, who had never fired a gun in anger, viewed a war as the pinnacle of romanticism, and implacable politicians refused to give an inch.

Is this not the same attitude we see on the streets of America today?

I see young people interviewed on television who can't even articulate the reason they are protesting. Others bent on destruction who probably espouse no cause but chaos.

I've seen hysterical protestors screaming about First Amendment rights which they seem to think only protects them and those who think like them and that the opposition has no first amendment protection and should be shouted down at all costs.

The rhetoric is becoming hotter and more nonsensical, the radical element more apparent, the violence and destruction of property more common place.

The pot is boiling and it’s only a matter of time before there will be blood on the streets.

Americans have the right to civil disobedience, a right to gather and demonstrate against some policy they feel is unfair or harmful to the country at large, but they do not have the right to interrupt commerce, break windows, burn cars or do bodily harm to those who disagree with them.

People who won't listen to reason, who ignore the law of the land and who try to stifle the opinions of others tend to forget that there is an element of violence on the other side as well, a side that, thankfully, so far has not yet come forth.

But, should these conditions continue, someday soon the violent elements of both persuasions will find themselves on the same streets, and what will ensue will not be pretty.

Learn from history, or repeat it.

What do you think?

Pray for our troops, our police and the peace of Jerusalem.

God Bless America

— Charlie Daniels

Charlie Daniels is a legendary American singer, song writer, guitarist, and fiddler famous for his contributions to country and southern rock music. Daniels has been active as a singer since the early 1950s. He was inducted into the Grand Ole Opry on January 24, 2008.

 

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Celebrities should shut up! Now read this letter from a famous fiddler.

Who cares what conservative-elite celebrities think?

Also, his analogy is pretty far off. Typical Charlie rhetoric. Stick to fiddling, Uneasy Rider.

 

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  posted on 2/15/2017 at 09:48 AM
I agree with this part of the letter:


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Charlie Daniels is a legendary American singer, song writer, guitarist, and fiddler famous for his contributions to country and southern rock music. Daniels has been active as a singer since the early 1950s. He was inducted into the Grand Ole Opry on January 24, 2008.

 

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  posted on 2/15/2017 at 10:53 AM
It is funny how Goob complains about liberal celebrities stating their opinion but then posts a Charlie Daniels letter. Pick one, do celebrities opinion matter or not? Should they use their position to speak or just shut up?

I doubt that Goob will return to this thread.

 

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  posted on 2/15/2017 at 11:47 AM
Charlie's words - "The rhetoric is becoming hotter and more nonsensical, the radical element more apparent."

But doesn't this describe how the Putin Admirer In Chief got elected?


 

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Ok, let's break down Charlie Daniels' pretty insulting, clueless, uninformed, tone-deaf letter that Goobs felt was important enough to share. I'm just going to assume he shared it because he agrees with ol' Belt Buckle.

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The Civil War never should have happened, and had cooler heads prevailed on both sides, never would have. Southerners had to know that slavery was an abomination to the principles they had fought and died for in the Revolution.


Oh, so a Southerner bringing up the Civil War again? Still butt hurt, are we? And that was all caused by a few stubborn hot heads who knew better, huh? That is some revisionist history, Chuck.

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No man has the right to own another man, to reap the fruits of his labor for nothing, to consider his children nothing more than commodities to be sold off or traded away on a whim, separating families and breeding human beings like livestock.


Yeah, ok, we all know this. Many Confederates did not think this way. There were a lot of horrible racists involved actually. Why are we talking about this?

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Surely, had it been approached by fair, level-headed men on both sides of the issue, abolition could have been achieved without war. But the rhetoric grew ever hotter.


Well, it didn't, but maybe get to your point...

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Is this not the same attitude we see on the streets of America today?


No. Wait, what the what?

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I see young people interviewed on television who can't even articulate the reason they are protesting. I've seen hysterical protestors screaming about First Amendment rights which they seem to think only protects them and those who think like them and that the opposition has no first amendment protection and should be shouted down at all costs.


Oh, ok, gotcha. Charlie is watching propaganda that ignores the purpose and content of actual peaceful protests:

- The Women's March against this administration's comments against Women's Rights, and Trump's numerous misogynist comments.
- Betsy DeVos' total unfitness for Secretary of Education
- Trump's childish disposition, directly attacking private businesses. Questioning the judiciary and probably a lack of understanding of due process.
- Jeff Sessions' racist history and the out of line silencing of Elizabeth Warren on the Senate floor.
- Trump's unconstitutional ban targeting Muslims

Naturally Charlie is going to be a crotchety crankypuss if he doesn't know what these peaceful protests are about. Make up a claim that they are against the First Amendment and unintelligible in order to discredit the protesters and link them to...uh...anti-abolitionists? Yeah, that's the ticket! With one hand he dismisses anti-Trump protesters entirely, and with the other he paints a rosy picture of people who went to war so they could own people. If he is worried about a war brewing, he should be looking beyond our shores because this administration seems to have an itchy trigger finger when it comes to war games.

So, Meryl Streep should shut her mouth, but we call really need to hear Charlie Daniels' warped, uninformed, rambling logic. Thanks, Goobs! I think someone needs a time out.

 

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  posted on 2/15/2017 at 12:49 PM
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Celebrities should shut up! Now read this letter from a famous fiddler.

Who cares what conservative-elite celebrities think?


Exactly. Conservative or Liberal, celebrities are just that and nothing more...

 

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  posted on 2/15/2017 at 12:59 PM
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So, Meryl Streep should shut her mouth, but we call really need to hear Charlie Daniels' warped, uninformed, rambling logic.


How about this?...Both of 'em can keep their opinions to themselves.

 

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So, Meryl Streep should shut her mouth, but we call really need to hear Charlie Daniels' warped, uninformed, rambling logic.


How about this?...Both of 'em can keep their opinions to themselves.


I have no problem with either speaking their minds, fame might give some an unfair bullhorn but it shouldn't require a muzzle. I just think some people here are a little (well, a lot) hypocritical.

But, BIGV, I appreciate your consistency

 

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  posted on 2/15/2017 at 01:34 PM
why is it that celebrities are frowned upon for giving their political opinion? Why is that profession singled out as one that should not give a political opinion? While Hank Williams Junior seems very uninformed, I would imagine that many celebrities are just as informed and educated as anyone else.
 

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why is it that celebrities are frowned upon for giving their political opinion? Why is that profession singled out as one that should not give a political opinion? While Hank Williams Junior seems very uninformed, I would imagine that many celebrities are just as informed and educated as anyone else.


For me, it is not a question of "being informed"...it is solely about the reason I look to them. I "look to" musicians for music. I go to the movies to see a performance. I place as much value on what "Celebrities" think and say as I do my Plumber or the FedEx guy. Do they have the right to express their opinions, political or otherwise?. Most certainly. I just do not believe their elevated status via the media means I have to care or be influenced, whether I agree or not.

So, Meryl Streep, Scott Baio, Charlie Daniels, Ted Nugent & Robert De Niro...it does not matter. I don't care to hear it.

 

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why is it that celebrities are frowned upon for giving their political opinion? Why is that profession singled out as one that should not give a political opinion? While Hank Williams Junior seems very uninformed, I would imagine that many celebrities are just as informed and educated as anyone else.


For me, it is not a question of "being informed"...it is solely about the reason I look to them. I "look to" musicians for music. I go to the movies to see a performance. I place as much value on what "Celebrities" think and say as I do my Plumber or the FedEx guy. Do they have the right to express their opinions, political or otherwise?. Most certainly. I just do not believe their elevated status via the media means I have to care or be influenced, whether I agree or not.

So, Meryl Streep, Scott Baio, Charlie Daniels, Ted Nugent & Robert De Niro...it does not matter. I don't care to hear it.


The way I have interpreted your remarks in the past is that you have basically said celebs should just STFU. I don't agree with that. But now, if I can read you right, you are saying that they can say whatever they want but we don't have to listen, then I agree with you. We all can say what we want and we can listen to whoever we wish to. That is different than saying "shut up and play music". I don't know how old you are, BigV, but I remember music having a big role in ending the Vietnam War.

 

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why is it that celebrities are frowned upon for giving their political opinion? Why is that profession singled out as one that should not give a political opinion? While Hank Williams Junior seems very uninformed, I would imagine that many celebrities are just as informed and educated as anyone else.


For me, it is not a question of "being informed"...it is solely about the reason I look to them. I "look to" musicians for music. I go to the movies to see a performance. I place as much value on what "Celebrities" think and say as I do my Plumber or the FedEx guy. Do they have the right to express their opinions, political or otherwise?. Most certainly. I just do not believe their elevated status via the media means I have to care or be influenced, whether I agree or not.

So, Meryl Streep, Scott Baio, Charlie Daniels, Ted Nugent & Robert De Niro...it does not matter. I don't care to hear it.


The way I have interpreted your remarks in the past is that you have basically said celebs should just STFU. I don't agree with that. But now, if I can read you right, you are saying that they can say whatever they want but we don't have to listen, then I agree with you. We all can say what we want and we can listen to whoever we wish to. That is different than saying "shut up and play music". I don't know how old you are, BigV, but I remember music having a big role in ending the Vietnam War.


For all the reasons I have listed above.....I do wish they would just "STFU"...agree or not, I don't care. But, make no mistake, they do have that right. Do I have to listen? No. But when I purchase a ticket and attend, I am a captive audience and have no options.....

 

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  posted on 2/15/2017 at 04:12 PM
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Americans have the right to civil disobedience, a right to gather and demonstrate against some policy they feel is unfair or harmful to the country at large, but they do not have the right to interrupt commerce, break windows, burn cars or do bodily harm to those who disagree with them.

People who won't listen to reason, who ignore the law of the land and who try to stifle the opinions of others tend to forget that there is an element of violence on the other side as well, a side that, thankfully, so far has not yet come forth.


This gross oversimplification nonwithstanding, I agree in spirit with Daniels. The rift will only get worse.

 

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why is it that celebrities are frowned upon for giving their political opinion? Why is that profession singled out as one that should not give a political opinion? While Hank Williams Junior seems very uninformed, I would imagine that many celebrities are just as informed and educated as anyone else.


For me, it is not a question of "being informed"...it is solely about the reason I look to them. I "look to" musicians for music. I go to the movies to see a performance. I place as much value on what "Celebrities" think and say as I do my Plumber or the FedEx guy. Do they have the right to express their opinions, political or otherwise?. Most certainly. I just do not believe their elevated status via the media means I have to care or be influenced, whether I agree or not.

So, Meryl Streep, Scott Baio, Charlie Daniels, Ted Nugent & Robert De Niro...it does not matter. I don't care to hear it.


The way I have interpreted your remarks in the past is that you have basically said celebs should just STFU. I don't agree with that. But now, if I can read you right, you are saying that they can say whatever they want but we don't have to listen, then I agree with you. We all can say what we want and we can listen to whoever we wish to. That is different than saying "shut up and play music". I don't know how old you are, BigV, but I remember music having a big role in ending the Vietnam War.


For all the reasons I have listed above.....I do wish they would just "STFU"...agree or not, I don't care. But, make no mistake, they do have that right. Do I have to listen? No. But when I purchase a ticket and attend, I am a captive audience and have no options.....


You are never a captive audience. Most of us know ahead of time if the artist gets political on stage or not. You also have the right to leave or visit the rest rooms or concession stands when an artist start speaking of politics.

 

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why is it that celebrities are frowned upon for giving their political opinion? Why is that profession singled out as one that should not give a political opinion? While Hank Williams Junior seems very uninformed, I would imagine that many celebrities are just as informed and educated as anyone else.


For me, it is not a question of "being informed"...it is solely about the reason I look to them. I "look to" musicians for music. I go to the movies to see a performance. I place as much value on what "Celebrities" think and say as I do my Plumber or the FedEx guy. Do they have the right to express their opinions, political or otherwise?. Most certainly. I just do not believe their elevated status via the media means I have to care or be influenced, whether I agree or not.

So, Meryl Streep, Scott Baio, Charlie Daniels, Ted Nugent & Robert De Niro...it does not matter. I don't care to hear it.


The way I have interpreted your remarks in the past is that you have basically said celebs should just STFU. I don't agree with that. But now, if I can read you right, you are saying that they can say whatever they want but we don't have to listen, then I agree with you. We all can say what we want and we can listen to whoever we wish to. That is different than saying "shut up and play music". I don't know how old you are, BigV, but I remember music having a big role in ending the Vietnam War.


For all the reasons I have listed above.....I do wish they would just "STFU"...agree or not, I don't care. But, make no mistake, they do have that right. Do I have to listen? No. But when I purchase a ticket and attend, I am a captive audience and have no options.....


How are you an captive audience? Charlie posted a stupid letter and you can read it or not. Meryl Streep said some stuff at an awards show, someone have you there in chains? If you purchase a ticket for a show and an artist takes the event in a direction you don't like you can get up and walk out. Is there some new definition of captive I am not aware of?

 

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But when I purchase a ticket and attend, I am a captive audience and have no options.....


How are you an captive audience?


Pretty clear

 

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You are never a captive audience.


Sorry God, once again I have failed you.

 

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You are never a captive audience.


Sorry God, once again I have failed you.


How clever, or maybe just dishonest, to take a sentence out of context like that. Or maybe you are just a jerk. No, just the last two. You ain't clever.

 

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You are never a captive audience.


Sorry God, once again I have failed you.


How clever, or maybe just dishonest, to take a sentence out of context like that. Or maybe you are just a jerk. No, just the last two. You ain't clever.


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  posted on 2/15/2017 at 06:46 PM
LOL, all the snarkiness, oh my. and just because Charlie Daniels said something. ok, carry on.

 

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Charlie doesn't want another civil war. If we can avoid the civil war, we will still have the other war later on. The global war when the anti-Christ wants to enslave each nation one by one. That is unavoidable. The battle lines may be groups of countries that align with each other in blocs, or they may start being picked off one by one the way Hitler did his rampage. Ezekiel is prophetic, there will be that war.

I think other wars may lead up to that war, logically the only way to establish a system whereby none can buy or sell unless they have the mark of the beast on their hand or forehead, well, as an advanced society, we would have to become cashless or use some other form of currency. I think the introduction of the ATM system and the bar coding system applied to items people want to purchase were the early pre-cursors to that happening.

As for borders, many leaders wanted to erase state sovereignty, they started with other states first who were easier to conquer. We put in regimes we could control, then when the world financial crash occurs, they will be willing to join together with other nations to continue in the ways of life they have come to know as normal. A little democracy goes a long way. Give oppressed peoples a little freedom, they want more, they will support you even if you are leading them to slaughter, they trust you because you have liberated them. That's how it is done.

The challenge we face will be between good and evil, all these other wars, protests are just stepping stones along the way.



 

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You are never a captive audience.


Sorry God, once again I have failed you.


How clever, or maybe just dishonest, to take a sentence out of context like that. Or maybe you are just a jerk. No, just the last two. You ain't clever.


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  posted on 2/15/2017 at 08:39 PM
Clownservative mouthpiece.

YAWN.

At least he has some talent, unlike scott baio or ted nugent.

 

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  posted on 2/15/2017 at 08:40 PM
Unbelievably irresponsible to raise the specter of armed civil strife by someone with a pulpit, over the exercise of protest of truly alarming, unstable, grossly incompetent and impetuous government policy, much of which directly undermines the Constitution. It's far more likely that the civilian populace which is better armed comes from areas which support Trump - red states with higher levels of private gun ownership and lower levels of education and employment. Areas which still smart over the Civil War, which Daniels idiotically invokes and compares to the present state of affairs. Putin's wet dream would be armed civil unrest in the US.

 

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