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  posted on 1/24/2017 at 09:06 PM
Just listened to it for the first time, trying to upload now.
So....
First there is this http://www.hotrails.co.uk/blueskybag/features/stonybrookforever.htm

Cliff notes for the lazy: Moyssi was a lighting director for Stony Brook during this time. He was friends with George Geranios and Seth Dworken who ran sound.

Moyssi goes to say near the bottom of the page...
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"My favorite fact is that we paid the Allman Brothers all of $300 for their first gig in our gym. It was a Thursday night with just ABB in 1970, followed by them opening for two shows with Mountain on Friday or Saturday. ABB did Stormy Monday, which Mountain also did as the headliner. After the early show, Leslie West wisely asked if he could open for ABB on the late show. What a friggin' wonderful show that turned out to be. They introduced Mountain Jam that night. (But I've done about 2,000 shows and mix up dates and bills and everybody's name, so take it for what it's worth.)

Many, most, maybe all of those shows were recorded with permission on an Ampex 300 or 301 from the sound mixer. Seth Dworkin was the mixer--a brainiac who went on to win a Grammy with the Grateful Dead and direct satellite operations for Wall Street Journal--kept all the original recordings (made on Scotch professional 1/4" tape supplied by me). He died of Crohn's disease summer a year ago, just after we got reacquainted and he verified that he still had all the tapes.

The Problem is that I can't figure out how to get in touch with the family and those tapes would need careful attention. I had a primary dub of the 1970 ABB/Mountain gig and ABB's archivist, Kirk West, told me it was the best FOH mixer recording he'd ever heard of the band. That was after they released the famous 1971 performance at Stony Brook that was recorded just weeks before the tragic motorcycle fatalities."


So, long story short, I "ran into" George via the ABB Stony Brook YouTube comment section a few months ago. Today I got the CD in the mail. It is Seth Dworken's recording of the 7/9/70 Stony Brook Summer Orientation Pre-Concert. Did anyone know this existed? Special thanks to George for this.
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07-09-70
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Dreams
Midnight Rider
Elizabeth Reed
Whipping Post ->
Mountain Jam

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[Edited on 2/14/2017 by anthonyspare]

 
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  posted on 1/24/2017 at 09:31 PM
Always cool to hear about the great shows they had at Stony Brook - I saw many! Hope to get to hear this one too!

 

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  posted on 1/24/2017 at 10:27 PM
Would be a very early Midnight Rider. Cant wait to hear this show
 
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  posted on 1/24/2017 at 10:41 PM
Wow! What a find!; Amazing, man would like to hear the Mountain recording too.

 

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  posted on 1/25/2017 at 03:31 AM
Thank you for posting about this Allman brothers band concert. I also can't wait to hear it.

When you upload this please post the link here.

 

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  posted on 1/25/2017 at 03:55 AM
Ditto would love to add this to my collection

 

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  posted on 1/25/2017 at 09:46 AM
My hunch is that the best way to get in touch with the family is via the WSJ. I'm sure they kept emergency contact info for him as an employee and dependent info via any health or benefits policies.

They won't give that info up to a cold-caller, but I'd start with Alan Paul who has written for the WSJ and may be able to connect you with the right people.

Good luck!

 

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  posted on 1/25/2017 at 05:06 PM
Thanks for some good news on such a sad day

 

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  posted on 1/26/2017 at 04:26 AM
Anthonyspare.

Attended the early ABB/Mountain show on 7-10-70. Since the setlist you have is different from the one that circulates I have to assume that it is probably the late show. I'm pretty confident from memory that the posted early show setlist is accurate. Certain that the band opened with Don't Keep Me Wonderin', performed You Don't Love, and closed with a 34 minute Mountain Jam. BTW, don't confuse these shows with the incorrectly listed 7-26-70 show in the live database (which actually has the correct 7-10-70 early show setlist). As discussed previously in these forums that show did not occur. In fact it was verified that Mountain performed at an entirely different venue on that date.

But I am so glad to hear from some one who was intimately involved with the Stony Brook concerts. Perhaps the biggest reason is that I had a discussion with Kirk West regarding another ABB date at Stony Brook, 10-23-70. The band opened for Delaney and Bonnie. Unfortunately I did not attend but I do remember the show taking place. But the news from Kirk was that tapes from this show definitely existed. The issue was that the tape holder was demanding a king's ransom for their release to the ABB organization. So if you do have further contact with George please mention this info to him. Maybe there is more than one copy of this show and it won't take an exorbinant fee to make it available.

A couple of corrections to Myossi's anecdotes. The ABB was not the only act on their first appearance at Stony Brook on 4-28-70. They were the scheduled opener for Chicago who due to a travel issue wound up playing first. A roommate of mine was at the complete show. Also, no way any Stony Brook show was the introductory performance for Mountain Jam, although there is the possibility that Mountain Jam was performed twice on 7-10-70. As Myossi himself admits things tend to get a bit mixed up after doing so many shows.

If you need any more Stony Brook info let me know. I attended from '69 to '73 so missed the earlier Doors, Joplin, Hendrix performances. Also the free 1970 outdoor performance was the Airplane, not the Starship. I made that one (after seeing Joe Cocker with Mad Dogs and Englishmen a couple of days prior). What a great time for seeing so many great acts in an intimate setting for very reasonable prices.

BTW, noticed after first posting that you had a 7-9-70 date for the show. The show I went to was definitely on a Friday which would have to be 7-10-70.

[Edited on 1/26/2017 by dzobo]

 

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  posted on 1/26/2017 at 04:59 AM
Hey Don - according to Skip, he had contacted a fellow who was on the Stony Brook sound and lighting crew who actually helped put the currently traded 7/10/70 tape together, and he had said that for everyone's info & records, the circulating material is in fact a compilation of the early and late shows from 7/10/70 and not one show. So maybe what Anthony has listed here may be the complete early or late show recording ... unless they did a warm up solo gig on 7/9?

 

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  posted on 1/26/2017 at 08:12 AM
Hello dzobo,
Just to let you know I went to SUNY New Paltz from '70-'73. Went to Orange Co. Comm. College before that. Don't know who played at NP before that time but the list from the early '70s was ABB, Mountain, Ten Years After, Chambers Bros., Jethro Tull, The Youngbloods, The Byrds, Orleans, Jefferson Airplane, Van Morrison, Seals and Crofts, New Riders, Kinks, Beach Boys, etc., etc. Wow, we're gettin' old!!!! Can't wait to hear this show whether it's 7/9 or 7/10. Wow, another new Duane soundboard!!!!!!!!

 

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  posted on 1/26/2017 at 08:22 AM
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So maybe what Anthony has listed here may be the complete early or late show recording ... unless they did a warm up solo gig on 7/9?

A warm-up solo gig is definitely what took place on 7/9/70. Spoke with George again on Tuesday and specifically asked him about the date. He says it for sure happened on the 9th, he was in attendance along with Seth Dworken. He message said ,"Maybe 50 people in the GYM, billed as a "Orientation Pre-Concert." The 10th was the "regular concert" where the Brothers opened for Mountain. That is why the show on the 10th is shorter, it is an opening act set. On the 9th they stretched out because they could. No other act played."

Sorry to keep you guys waiting for this but it has been a crazy week at work, I promise to post the show tonight, I am starting a new job on Monday and the wife always has some "project" for me to work on.
I will say that I truly believe it is the 9th show, because I have never heard any of these versions specifically the 'Liz Reed. I listened to it twice last night and no part of the set sounded familiar in any way. It is a VERY early Midnight Rider. It's coming soon. I promise.

 

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  posted on 1/26/2017 at 12:54 PM
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Hey Don - according to Skip, he had contacted a fellow who was on the Stony Brook sound and lighting crew who actually helped put the currently traded 7/10/70 tape together, and he had said that for everyone's info & records, the circulating material is in fact a compilation of the early and late shows from 7/10/70 and not one show.

Yes, I do recall now that this was brought up before. Tough to put my memories up against some one who worked the show and then the tape production, although I believe Skip's contact was Myossi who has admitted that "but I've done about 2,000 shows and mix up dates and bills and everybody's name, so take it for what it's worth." Would be cool if the complete shows would see the light of day (or at least the setlists), BTW, the circulating show clocks in at around 77 minutes so there is a possibility that this could be a complete opening set. As the band were apparently closers for the late show I am sure the set would have been longer.
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Maybe 50 people in the GYM, billed as a "Orientation Pre-Concert." The 10th was the "regular concert" where the Brothers opened for Mountain. That is why the show on the 10th is shorter, it is an opening act set. On the 9th they stretched out because they could. No other act played."

This all makes sense. Concert was not open to the public. Also Myossi mentions a Thursday night which the 9th was. But he does factually error when he says it was the band's first performance at the SB gym. Again that had occurred 4-28-70, a Tuesday.

Spoonbelly, being at the hipper state schools we were completely spoiled but hey, those acts had to play somewhere.

[Edited on 1/26/2017 by dzobo]

 

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  posted on 1/26/2017 at 07:45 PM
To help us in our time of grieving, here ya'll go.

At the end of the show you can hear Duane say, "we will see you tomorrow night", so the mysterious 7/9/70 show did indeed happen. Enjoy.

Special thanks to George Geranios for bringing this to surface after 47 years, and also the late Seth Dworken who captured the recording.

Two different links.

1. Dreams, Midnight Rider, Elizabeth Reed
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7fig6k0r8ud07qz/1%20Stony%20Brook%20July%209%2C%2 01970-1.mp3?dl=0


2. Whipping Post -> Mountain Jam
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1nsezmmb4ftjnbo/2%20Stony%20Brook%20July%209%2C%2 01970-2.mp3?dl=0

If you sign up for DropBox I think you can download them...

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  posted on 1/26/2017 at 07:50 PM
And the end of Dreams is amazing.
 

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  posted on 1/26/2017 at 08:32 PM
thank you anthonyspare..listening and burning as I type...holy s**t...this is the real deal..getting blown away..dreams amazing..thanks again
 

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  posted on 1/26/2017 at 08:43 PM
Incredible thank you so much
 
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  posted on 1/26/2017 at 09:24 PM
I thank you as well anthonyspare. Every show from the original 6 is a treasure. I cannot wait to listen to our boys rip thru their tunes. This week has been very emotional for us ABB fans. I am sure this will help give us what we need. God damn I love the Allman Brothers Band.

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  posted on 1/26/2017 at 10:07 PM
Thank you!!!!

This is a big help right now!

 

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  posted on 1/26/2017 at 10:19 PM
Just listened to IMOER. Whew!!! Raw, pure, pretty and emotional. Everything we came to love about this band. It makes me realize how special this music is. Especially tonight. All I can say is thank you Duane, Gregg, Berry, Dickey, Jaimoe and Butch Trucks!



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  posted on 1/26/2017 at 11:32 PM
Thanks man! Medicine for melancholy
 

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  posted on 1/26/2017 at 11:37 PM
Thanks for the info on this, and for everyone else chiming in on memories of it all back then,

going to the links now....much appreciated!!!

 

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  posted on 1/26/2017 at 11:41 PM
Thank you for the download Anthony.

 

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  posted on 1/27/2017 at 12:04 AM
Thank you. Thank you so much, Anthony.
 
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