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  posted on 1/21/2017 at 12:57 PM
Well, even though the President claimed to have written it (he didn't) at Mar-A-Lago (he didn't), he gave it.

Irony of teleprompter and speechwriter usage criticism no longer being an issue notwithstanding, I am curious...

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Chief Justice Roberts, President Carter, President Clinton, President Bush, President Obama, fellow Americans, and people of the world: Thank you.

We, the citizens of America, are now joined in a great national effort to rebuild our country and to restore its promise for all of our people.

Together, we will determine the course of America and the world for years to come.

We will face challenges. We will confront hardships. But we will get the job done.

Every four years, we gather on these steps to carry out the orderly and peaceful transfer of power, and we are grateful to President Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama for their gracious aid throughout this transition. They have been magnificent.

Today's ceremony, however, has very special meaning. Because today we are not merely transferring power from one administration to another, or from one party to another -- but we are transferring power from Washington, D.C. and giving it back to you, the American People.


For too long, a small group in our nation's Capital has reaped the rewards of government while the people have borne the cost. Washington flourished -- but the people did not share in its wealth. Politicians prospered -- but the jobs left, and the factories closed.

The establishment protected itself, but not the citizens of our country. Their victories have not been your victories; their triumphs have not been your triumphs; and while they celebrated in our nation's capital, there was little to celebrate for struggling families all across our land.

That all changes -- starting right here, and right now, because this moment is your moment: it belongs to you.
It belongs to everyone gathered here today and everyone watching all across America. This is your day. This is your celebration. And this, the United States of America, is your country.

What truly matters is not which party controls our government, but whether our government is controlled by the people. January 20th 2017, will be remembered as the day the people became the rulers of this nation again. The forgotten men and women of our country will be forgotten no longer.

Everyone is listening to you now.

You came by the tens of millions to become part of a historic movement the likes of which the world has never seen before. At the center of this movement is a crucial conviction: that a nation exists to serve its citizens.

Americans want great schools for their children, safe neighborhoods for their families, and good jobs for themselves. These are the just and reasonable demands of a righteous public.

But for too many of our citizens, a different reality exists: Mothers and children trapped in poverty in our inner cities; rusted-out factories scattered like tombstones across the landscape of our nation; an education system flush with cash, but which leaves our young and beautiful students deprived of knowledge; and the crime and gangs and drugs that have stolen too many lives and robbed our country of so much unrealized potential.

This American carnage stops right here and stops right now.

We are one nation -- and their pain is our pain. Their dreams are our dreams; and their success will be our success. We share one heart, one home, and one glorious destiny.

The oath of office I take today is an oath of allegiance to all Americans.

For many decades, we've enriched foreign industry at the expense of American industry; subsidized the armies of other countries while allowing for the very sad depletion of our military; we've defended other nation's borders while refusing to defend our own; and spent trillions of dollars overseas while America's infrastructure has fallen into disrepair and decay.

We've made other countries rich while the wealth, strength, and confidence of our country has disappeared over the horizon.

One by one, the factories shuttered and left our shores, with not even a thought about the millions upon millions of American workers left behind.

The wealth of our middle class has been ripped from their homes and then redistributed across the entire world.

But that is the past. And now we are looking only to the future. We assembled here today are issuing a new decree to be heard in every city, in every foreign capital, and in every hall of power.

From this day forward, a new vision will govern our land.

From this moment on, it's going to be America First.

Every decision on trade, on taxes, on immigration, on foreign affairs, will be made to benefit American workers and American families. We must protect our borders from the ravages of other countries making our products, stealing our companies, and destroying our jobs. Protection will lead to great prosperity and strength.

I will fight for you with every breath in my body -- and I will never, ever let you down.

America will start winning again, winning like never before.

We will bring back our jobs. We will bring back our borders. We will bring back our wealth. And we will bring back our dreams.

We will build new roads, and highways, and bridges, and airports, and tunnels, and railways all across our wonderful nation.

We will get our people off of welfare and back to work -- rebuilding our country with American hands and American labor.

We will follow two simple rules: Buy American and hire American.

We will seek friendship and goodwill with the nations of the world -- but we do so with the understanding that it is the right of all nations to put their own interests first.

We do not seek to impose our way of life on anyone, but rather to let it shine as an example for everyone to follow.

We will reinforce old alliances and form new ones -- and unite the civilized world against radical Islamic terrorism, which we will eradicate completely from the face of the Earth.

At the bedrock of our politics will be a total allegiance to the United States of America, and through our loyalty to our country, we will rediscover our loyalty to each other.

When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice. The Bible tells us, "How good and pleasant it is when God's people live together in unity."

We must speak our minds openly, debate our disagreements honestly, but always pursue solidarity.

When America is united, America is totally unstoppable.

There should be no fear -- we are protected, and we will always be protected.

We will be protected by the great men and women of our military and law enforcement and, most importantly, we are protected by God.

Finally, we must think big and dream even bigger.

In America, we understand that a nation is only living as long as it is striving.

We will no longer accept politicians who are all talk and no action -- constantly complaining but never doing anything about it.

The time for empty talk is over. Now arrives the hour of action.

Do not let anyone tell you it cannot be done. No challenge can match the heart and fight and spirit of America.

We will not fail. Our country will thrive and prosper again.

We stand at the birth of a new millennium, ready to unlock the mysteries of space, to free the Earth from the miseries of disease, and to harness the energies, industries and technologies of tomorrow.

A new national pride will stir our souls, lift our sights, and heal our divisions.

It is time to remember that old wisdom our soldiers will never forget: that whether we are black or brown or white, we all bleed the same red blood of patriots, we all enjoy the same glorious freedoms, and we all salute the same great American Flag.

And whether a child is born in the urban sprawl of Detroit or the windswept plains of Nebraska, they look up at the same night sky, they fill their heart with the same dreams, and they are infused with the breath of life by the same almighty Creator.

So to all Americans, in every city near and far, small and large, from mountain to mountain, and from ocean to ocean, hear these words:

You will never be ignored again.

Your voice, your hopes, and your dreams will define our American destiny. And your courage and goodness and love will forever guide us along the way.

Together, We will make America strong again.

We will make wealthy again.

We will make America proud again.

We will make America safe again.

And yes, together, we will make America great again. Thank you. God bless you. And God bless America.


Is the America described by the President the one you see? Is there carnage everywhere?

A call for rebuilding the nation's infrastructure? This was widely mocked, derided and any initiative by the former administration was dismissed as folly of both resources and money.

Expanding commitment to space exploration? Really? Now? That's important again?

Political parties don't matter? Is that not a rather incredulous claim to make?

There's no right or wrong answers here, opinions and visions are unique to the individual. Personally, I don't quite see what the President sees, but, we all live in our own little worlds and bubbles and what might be Shangri-la on my block doesn't mean it's not the 7th circle of Hell on the other side of town.

What do you see?

 

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  posted on 1/21/2017 at 01:24 PM
quote:
Well, even though the President claimed to have written it (he didn't) at Mar-A-Lago (he didn't), he gave it.

Irony of teleprompter and speechwriter usage criticism no longer being an issue notwithstanding, I am curious...

quote:
Chief Justice Roberts, President Carter, President Clinton, President Bush, President Obama, fellow Americans, and people of the world: Thank you.

We, the citizens of America, are now joined in a great national effort to rebuild our country and to restore its promise for all of our people.

Together, we will determine the course of America and the world for years to come.

We will face challenges. We will confront hardships. But we will get the job done.

Every four years, we gather on these steps to carry out the orderly and peaceful transfer of power, and we are grateful to President Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama for their gracious aid throughout this transition. They have been magnificent.

Today's ceremony, however, has very special meaning. Because today we are not merely transferring power from one administration to another, or from one party to another -- but we are transferring power from Washington, D.C. and giving it back to you, the American People.


For too long, a small group in our nation's Capital has reaped the rewards of government while the people have borne the cost. Washington flourished -- but the people did not share in its wealth. Politicians prospered -- but the jobs left, and the factories closed.

The establishment protected itself, but not the citizens of our country. Their victories have not been your victories; their triumphs have not been your triumphs; and while they celebrated in our nation's capital, there was little to celebrate for struggling families all across our land.

That all changes -- starting right here, and right now, because this moment is your moment: it belongs to you.
It belongs to everyone gathered here today and everyone watching all across America. This is your day. This is your celebration. And this, the United States of America, is your country.

What truly matters is not which party controls our government, but whether our government is controlled by the people. January 20th 2017, will be remembered as the day the people became the rulers of this nation again. The forgotten men and women of our country will be forgotten no longer.

Everyone is listening to you now.

You came by the tens of millions to become part of a historic movement the likes of which the world has never seen before. At the center of this movement is a crucial conviction: that a nation exists to serve its citizens.

Americans want great schools for their children, safe neighborhoods for their families, and good jobs for themselves. These are the just and reasonable demands of a righteous public.

But for too many of our citizens, a different reality exists: Mothers and children trapped in poverty in our inner cities; rusted-out factories scattered like tombstones across the landscape of our nation; an education system flush with cash, but which leaves our young and beautiful students deprived of knowledge; and the crime and gangs and drugs that have stolen too many lives and robbed our country of so much unrealized potential.

This American carnage stops right here and stops right now.

We are one nation -- and their pain is our pain. Their dreams are our dreams; and their success will be our success. We share one heart, one home, and one glorious destiny.

The oath of office I take today is an oath of allegiance to all Americans.

For many decades, we've enriched foreign industry at the expense of American industry; subsidized the armies of other countries while allowing for the very sad depletion of our military; we've defended other nation's borders while refusing to defend our own; and spent trillions of dollars overseas while America's infrastructure has fallen into disrepair and decay.

We've made other countries rich while the wealth, strength, and confidence of our country has disappeared over the horizon.

One by one, the factories shuttered and left our shores, with not even a thought about the millions upon millions of American workers left behind.

The wealth of our middle class has been ripped from their homes and then redistributed across the entire world.

But that is the past. And now we are looking only to the future. We assembled here today are issuing a new decree to be heard in every city, in every foreign capital, and in every hall of power.

From this day forward, a new vision will govern our land.

From this moment on, it's going to be America First.

Every decision on trade, on taxes, on immigration, on foreign affairs, will be made to benefit American workers and American families. We must protect our borders from the ravages of other countries making our products, stealing our companies, and destroying our jobs. Protection will lead to great prosperity and strength.

I will fight for you with every breath in my body -- and I will never, ever let you down.

America will start winning again, winning like never before.

We will bring back our jobs. We will bring back our borders. We will bring back our wealth. And we will bring back our dreams.

We will build new roads, and highways, and bridges, and airports, and tunnels, and railways all across our wonderful nation.

We will get our people off of welfare and back to work -- rebuilding our country with American hands and American labor.

We will follow two simple rules: Buy American and hire American.

We will seek friendship and goodwill with the nations of the world -- but we do so with the understanding that it is the right of all nations to put their own interests first.

We do not seek to impose our way of life on anyone, but rather to let it shine as an example for everyone to follow.

We will reinforce old alliances and form new ones -- and unite the civilized world against radical Islamic terrorism, which we will eradicate completely from the face of the Earth.

At the bedrock of our politics will be a total allegiance to the United States of America, and through our loyalty to our country, we will rediscover our loyalty to each other.

When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice. The Bible tells us, "How good and pleasant it is when God's people live together in unity."

We must speak our minds openly, debate our disagreements honestly, but always pursue solidarity.

When America is united, America is totally unstoppable.

There should be no fear -- we are protected, and we will always be protected.

We will be protected by the great men and women of our military and law enforcement and, most importantly, we are protected by God.

Finally, we must think big and dream even bigger.

In America, we understand that a nation is only living as long as it is striving.

We will no longer accept politicians who are all talk and no action -- constantly complaining but never doing anything about it.

The time for empty talk is over. Now arrives the hour of action.

Do not let anyone tell you it cannot be done. No challenge can match the heart and fight and spirit of America.

We will not fail. Our country will thrive and prosper again.

We stand at the birth of a new millennium, ready to unlock the mysteries of space, to free the Earth from the miseries of disease, and to harness the energies, industries and technologies of tomorrow.

A new national pride will stir our souls, lift our sights, and heal our divisions.

It is time to remember that old wisdom our soldiers will never forget: that whether we are black or brown or white, we all bleed the same red blood of patriots, we all enjoy the same glorious freedoms, and we all salute the same great American Flag.

And whether a child is born in the urban sprawl of Detroit or the windswept plains of Nebraska, they look up at the same night sky, they fill their heart with the same dreams, and they are infused with the breath of life by the same almighty Creator.

So to all Americans, in every city near and far, small and large, from mountain to mountain, and from ocean to ocean, hear these words:

You will never be ignored again.

Your voice, your hopes, and your dreams will define our American destiny. And your courage and goodness and love will forever guide us along the way.

Together, We will make America strong again.

We will make wealthy again.

We will make America proud again.

We will make America safe again.

And yes, together, we will make America great again. Thank you. God bless you. And God bless America.


Is the America described by the President the one you see? Is there carnage everywhere?

A call for rebuilding the nation's infrastructure? This was widely mocked, derided and any initiative by the former administration was dismissed as folly of both resources and money.

Expanding commitment to space exploration? Really? Now? That's important again?

Political parties don't matter? Is that not a rather incredulous claim to make?

There's no right or wrong answers here, opinions and visions are unique to the individual. Personally, I don't quite see what the President sees, but, we all live in our own little worlds and bubbles and what might be Shangri-la on my block doesn't mean it's not the 7th circle of Hell on the other side of town.

What do you see?


As with his campaign, doom and gloom not only plays well with a certain constituency, but it lowers the bar so low that when he actually makes even the slightest improvement in, well, anything, he can claim credit for it. Or when he fails miserably, can claim it's not his fault as things are just, heck, so bad.....

As an example, take his claiming credit for a certain car manufacturer deciding due to actual market conditions, to stay in a certain part of the nation and then Trump claiming credit for it.

Me thinks when he fails miserably to save the coal industry jobs he claimed so vehemently he would save, he'll claim it was the previous administration's fault.....or some other hair brain thing, when it's simple economics, innovation, automation, etc. that has doomed coal and will continue to do so despite anything Trump does....

 

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  posted on 1/21/2017 at 02:49 PM
Trump didn't run a campaign based on what he plans to do. His entire campaign platform was to unapologetically criticize the opposition and be as politically incorrect as possible. He won the election the minute he denigrated Mexicans. Why? Because he was willing to say what others were thinking but not willing to say. He's the Howard Stern of politics. I would imagine a very small fraction of his votes were casted based on his plans for America.
 

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Well, even though the President claimed to have written it (he didn't) at Mar-A-Lago (he didn't), he gave it.




You mean you didn't immediately think the photo of him writing an inauguration speech on a brand new note pad in the lobby of his resort wasn't real?



 

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FACT CHECK: Trump starts on familiar note: with exaggeration
by PAUL WISEMAN & CHRISTOPHER S. RUGABER, The Associated Press
3:53 pm January 20, 2017
WASHINGTON --
Donald Trump's inaugural address held familiar echoes of the campaign speeches that led to his presidential win: downbeat about the state of the nation, to the point of hyperbole. A look at some of his assertions Friday:
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TRUMP: "The jobs left, and the factories closed ... the wealth, strength and confidence of our country has disappeared over the horizon."
THE FACTS: The American economy is a lot healthier than the wreck Trump describes. Jobs have increased for a record 75 straight months. The U.S. unemployment rate was 4.7 percent in December, close to a nine-year low and to what economists consider full employment.
From July through September, the economy expanded at a 3.5 percent annual pace — fastest in two years. The Federal Reserve is so confident in the resiliency of the economy that it raised interest rates last month for only the second time in a decade.
Still, Trump's talk of "rusted-out factories scattered like tombstones across the landscape of our nation" rings true in communities that lost factories to low-wage competition from China and Mexico. And the jobless rate is low partly because so many Americans have stopped looking for work and are no longer counted as unemployed.
Wage growth has been sluggish since the Great Recession ended in mid-2009. But declining unemployment and steady job growth are starting to force businesses to offer higher pay to find and attract new workers.
And in 2015, the income for a typical household jumped 5.2 percent to an inflation-adjusted $56,516, the largest annual growth in nearly five decades, according to the Census Bureau. Average hourly pay rose last year at the fastest pace in more than seven years.
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TRUMP: "We've defended other nation's borders while refusing to defend our own."
THE FACTS: Hardly. Since 2001, the U.S. has more than doubled the ranks of the Border Patrol, which now has nearly 20,000 agents. The vast majority of those are stationed along the Mexican border, where about 408,000 people were apprehended during the budget year that ended in September.
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TRUMP: The U.S. has "subsidized the armies of other countries while allowing for the very sad depletion of our military."
THE FACTS: The U.S. military may have shortcomings, but it remains the world's most advanced, expensive and far-flung fighting force. American military spending is nearly three times that of second-place China, according to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute.
The Pentagon says it does have additional needs, including more ships, a replenished air fleet and bigger training budgets to prepare for large-scale combat.
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TRUMP: "We will reinforce old alliances and form new ones, and unite the civilized world against radical Islamic terrorism, which we will eradicate completely from the face of the Earth."
THE FACTS: Quelling radical Islamic terrorism worldwide is a heavy lift in which the U.S. has been engaged for years, and Trump has offered no plan for how he will deliver on this promise.
A U.S.-led coalition began battling Islamic extremism even before 9/11. In Afghanistan alone, the coalition has fought for more than 15 years to prevent al-Qaida and other radical groups from regaining a safe harbor there. Getting the help of NATO allies might prove diplomatically challenging since Trump has called NATO "obsolete" and says European members aren't paying their fair share.
The threat is only growing. The Islamic State has a global reach, and attacks linked to radical extremism have occurred in the United States, France, Belgium, Turkey and countries throughout northern Africa.
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  posted on 1/22/2017 at 01:06 PM
It wasn't all bad, but it was overly dark. If you know much of me from the posts, naturally the theme of America First appealed to me. Although, without bringing Trump branded items back to being made in the USA he leaves himself open to criticism in own words vs own actions.

I said in the inauguration thread that it made me a little uncomfortable at times. The hostile nature towards the people in government sitting there and former Presidents was too harsh of a tone I think. A few notable lines did bother me alot, He actually said "deprived of all knowledge" talking about students in our school system. The way you have the transcript posted that line is bad enough, but putting all in there makes it sound worse. Would have preferred he didn't say "American carnage" when describing the true concerns and problems with single parents or inner city blight or drugs and gangs. I would've liked it to be more inclusive, but it wasn't entirely exclusive either.

I've heard some people say it sets the bar low, I think it sets it high because he described so many things that are wrong, he has called them out and now it is on his watch to fix all those things he said.

I will hold judgment on the infrastructure investment plan until we see what it looks like and how much and where the money comes from.

Could go on to dissect alot of it. Not the speech I would've given and I would have added some words or lines to the one he gave.

 

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  posted on 1/22/2017 at 01:19 PM
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Well, even though the President claimed to have written it (he didn't) at Mar-A-Lago (he didn't), he gave it.




You mean you didn't immediately think the photo of him writing an inauguration speech on a brand new note pad in the lobby of his resort wasn't real?





The Sharpie and blank piece of paper was a bit of a clue.

 

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  posted on 1/22/2017 at 02:35 PM
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As with his campaign, doom and gloom not only plays well with a certain constituency, but it lowers the bar so low that when he actually makes even the slightest improvement in, well, anything, he can claim credit for it. Or when he fails miserably, can claim it's not his fault as things are just, heck, so bad.....


Exactly, the rest of the Republican candidates didn't have much of an issue to run on last Spring (except "OH-BAH-Ma, hmi'right?", so Trump made one up. The U.S. economy is actually in pretty good shape, especially considering where it was in 2008. I'm not saying Bush was directly responsible and more than Trump will be able to single handedly return manufacturing jobs to rust belt cities, there are a ton of factors that affect the market, but Trump's rhetoric of doom and gloom and jobs is baseline and easy to say "yes" to (though it didn't work for John Kerry in 2004). It's just like when Muleman joined that "DOOM WILL RISE" guy's cult

 

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  posted on 1/22/2017 at 03:57 PM
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Trump didn't run a campaign based on what he plans to do. His entire campaign platform was to unapologetically criticize the opposition and be as politically incorrect as possible. He won the election the minute he denigrated Mexicans. Why? Because he was willing to say what others were thinking but not willing to say. He's the Howard Stern of politics. I would imagine a very small fraction of his votes were casted based on his plans for America.


He most certainly did run a campaign based on his plans, and I put them up over and over again. If you refuse to acknowledge them, that is your mistake. For one thing, he is changing the taxation structure. He is also stopping the illegal immigration and breaching the Mexican borders. he is reapealing and changing the government mandated health care act, the Affordable Care Act, more commonly called Obamacare. Did any of these things slip by without you noticing? There are many other things he promised also. Do you need me to put them up for you?

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/policies/

Click on one and get an education.

 

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Trump didn't run a campaign based on what he plans to do. His entire campaign platform was to unapologetically criticize the opposition and be as politically incorrect as possible. He won the election the minute he denigrated Mexicans. Why? Because he was willing to say what others were thinking but not willing to say. He's the Howard Stern of politics. I would imagine a very small fraction of his votes were casted based on his plans for America.


He most certainly did run a campaign based on his plans, and I put them up over and over again. If you refuse to acknowledge them, that is your mistake. For one thing, he is changing the taxation structure. He is also stopping the illegal immigration and breaching the Mexican borders. he is reapealing and changing the government mandated health care act, the Affordable Care Act, more commonly called Obamacare. Did any of these things slip by without you noticing? There are many other things he promised also. Do you need me to put them up for you?

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/policies/

Click on one and get an education.


He had no plas, just slogans and impossible to carry out promises.

 

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What is the "DOOM WILL RISE" cult? Is that a Dungeons and Dragons thing?


I think it has something to do with the band Candlemass. Vaguely remember some posts, kind of a thing for a while.

 

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Unfortunately much of what he said has been 100% true. I am not looking for another cheerleader President, who makes great speeches that the MSM adores, but someone who identifies the body rot and tells you even though you may not want to hear it.

 

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Unfortunately much of what he said has been 100% true. I am not looking for another cheerleader President, who makes great speeches that the MSM adores, but someone who identifies the body rot and tells you even though you may not want to hear it.



Yeah, but we elected Trump, so, maybe next time.

 

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  posted on 1/22/2017 at 08:22 PM
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Unfortunately much of what he said has been 100% true. I am not looking for another cheerleader President, who makes great speeches that the MSM adores, but someone who identifies the body rot and tells you even though you may not want to hear it.


Sorry, but in campaign mode and as President he lies at will. How many lies have we heard just since Friday. Do a bit of research on the rant Spicer gave to the press yesterday and tell us how many lies were present...at Trump's direction. Spicer didn't even have the balls to take questions.

Throw in today's admission (no surprise) that he no longer will release his taxes, and we're getting a beautiful picture of "Honest Don". No surprises here.

 

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Unfortunately much of what he said has been 100% true. I am not looking for another cheerleader President, who makes great speeches that the MSM adores, but someone who identifies the body rot and tells you even though you may not want to hear it.


Even though it may or may not be a lie?

Then he may have won, but you definitely lost.

 

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Unfortunately much of what he said has been 100% true. I am not looking for another cheerleader President, who makes great speeches that the MSM adores, but someone who identifies the body rot and tells you even though you may not want to hear it.


Sorry, but in campaign mode and as President he lies at will. How many lies have we heard just since Friday. Do a bit of research on the rant Spicer gave to the press yesterday and tell us how many lies were present...at Trump's direction. Spicer didn't even have the balls to take questions.

Throw in today's admission (no surprise) that he no longer will release his taxes, and we're getting a beautiful picture of "Honest Don". No surprises here.


What are you hoping to find in his tax returns?

 

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Donald Trump came into his inauguration with a 40% approval rating, the lowest for an incoming president since they started keeping track of approval ratings back in the 1940’s.

Trump needed to deliver a speech that reached out to those Americans who don’t support him. He needed to try to give an address that would help unify the country. He didn’t. Or give a unifying speech. Not even close. And it was chock-full of hypocrisy.

“We must protect our borders from the ravages of other countries making our products, stealing our companies and destroying our jobs.” This from a man whose products are currently being manufactured in 12 different countries.

“Washington flourished, but the people did not share in its wealth. Politicians prospered, but the jobs left and the factories closed. The establishment protected itself, but not the citizens of our country.” Says a man who has screwed his contractors over and over and over for decades. And has declared bankruptcies six times. And didn’t pay taxes for at least 18 years. Donald Trump only takes care of himself. He has been a net-drain on our economy and the American people.

“We will build new roads and highways and bridges and airports and tunnels and railways all across our wonderful nation.” Not with Trump’s taxes. He’s too smart to pay them (his accountant was actually the smart one).

“We will bring back our jobs. We will bring back our borders. We will bring back our wealth. And we will bring back our dreams.” Those steel jobs that he promised he’d bring back to Pittsburgh workers are not coming back. Just one of the many many promises Trump made that he has no ability or intention to keep.

“An education system flush with cash.” Laughable. Did he get this from his Secretary of Education choice who believes people in Wyoming need guns in schools to protect them from grizzly bears? She also seems to know very little about public schools, probably because she never went to one, worked in one or sent her kids to one.

“We must speak our minds openly, debate our disagreements honestly, but always pursue solidarity. When America is united, America is totally unstoppable.” Says the man who tolerates zero dissent and who lashes out immediately at anyone who dares criticize him. You are a Trump tweet target whether you are a civil rights icon, a former POW or an 18 year old New Hampshire college student asking a question during a political forum. (After Trump attacked her on Twitter, she received rape and death threats.)

“We will no longer accept politicians who are all talk and no action, constantly complaining, but never doing anything about it.” Says a man who complains and rants incessantly, including in this very inauguration speech.

“It's time to remember that old wisdom our soldiers will never forget, that whether we are black or brown or white, we all bleed the same red blood of patriots.” Worst line ever. If Trump was going for a “Ask not what your country can do for you” line, he fell miserably short. And a man who had five draft deferments during the Vietnam war should have nothing to say about soldiers and their wisdom.

“This American carnage stops right here and stops right now.” This was the line that really made me sick. The United States is so far from carnage. Or at least it was.

Donald Trump just gave probably the worst inauguration speech ever. (Conservative columnist George Will called it the most dreadful inaugural speech ever.) He had a golden moment, an unbelievably important moment for starting to bring Americans back together, and he threw up all over it.

 

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  posted on 1/22/2017 at 10:50 PM
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TRUMP: The U.S. has "subsidized the armies of other countries while allowing for the very sad depletion of our military."
THE FACTS: The U.S. military may have shortcomings, but it remains the world's most advanced, expensive and far-flung fighting force. American military spending is nearly three times that of second-place China, according to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute.
The Pentagon says it does have additional needs, including more ships, a replenished air fleet and bigger training budgets to prepare for large-scale combat.


We spend $5.5 billion for US bases and in protection of Japan annually. Japan spends just 1% of their GDP on their own defense (US spends 3-4%).

I think the right always exaggerates the state of the military under the Democrats. "Depletion of our military" - that specific remark was an unfortunate moment of the speech, not the only one of that nature, but there was substance there as well. The fact remains, our spending in places like Japan and Korea allows them budget more of their own money for things that their country needs and wants...while our country gets less of what we need and want and just add the cost to the national debt.

 

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TRUMP: "We've defended other nation's borders while refusing to defend our own."
THE FACTS: Hardly. Since 2001, the U.S. has more than doubled the ranks of the Border Patrol, which now has nearly 20,000 agents. The vast majority of those are stationed along the Mexican border, where about 408,000 people were apprehended during the budget year that ended in September.


I always find border crossing numbers and captures different depending on the source. An October 2016 Chicago Tribune story said the capture rate is just 54%. Illegal border crossings may be down and that is good. But it is still a major problem. Some people always say "why no wall with Canada?" Well I don't think illegal immigration from Canada is the major problem it is from Mexico. It's not a racial thing, it's a principle thing. If white Canadians were coming across the border here illegally I would certainly be calling for increased attention at that border. But one benefit of a Trump Presidency is that Canadians won't want to live here, right? But they have a fine country. Alot of Mexico and Central America is a hell hole, no wonder why people want to get out of there.

Hey, and I will agree with those who say too much focus is put on the Mexican border in terms of illegal immigration. I know visa overstays are a major part of the problem, and Asian illegals are just as much of it as those from Mexico and Central America. Nothing racist here from me on illegal immigration. Just because you want to restrict and make illegal immigration tougher and penalize those who come here illegally I don't think that makes you a racist. It doesn't matter where they are coming from, it is the fact they are coming period.

Barely half of people who entered the U.S. illegally from Mexico last year were caught
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-us-mexico-border-crossing -captures-20161006-story.html

 

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TRUMP: "The jobs left, and the factories closed ... the wealth, strength and confidence of our country has disappeared over the horizon."
THE FACTS: The American economy is a lot healthier than the wreck Trump describes. Jobs have increased for a record 75 straight months. The U.S. unemployment rate was 4.7 percent in December, close to a nine-year low and to what economists consider full employment.
From July through September, the economy expanded at a 3.5 percent annual pace — fastest in two years. The Federal Reserve is so confident in the resiliency of the economy that it raised interest rates last month for only the second time in a decade.
Still, Trump's talk of "rusted-out factories scattered like tombstones across the landscape of our nation" rings true in communities that lost factories to low-wage competition from China and Mexico. And the jobless rate is low partly because so many Americans have stopped looking for work and are no longer counted as unemployed.
Wage growth has been sluggish since the Great Recession ended in mid-2009. But declining unemployment and steady job growth are starting to force businesses to offer higher pay to find and attract new workers.
And in 2015, the income for a typical household jumped 5.2 percent to an inflation-adjusted $56,516, the largest annual growth in nearly five decades, according to the Census Bureau. Average hourly pay rose last year at the fastest pace in more than seven years.



When Trump talks like this he isn't speaking just to the Obama years, or even just the Bush years. It goes back much further...Reagan-Bush-Clinton-Bush-Obama...actions have taken place through the years that vastly shifted employment, wages, corporate profits. The outsourcing phenomenon boosted corporate earnings like nobody could've imagined and it happened at the expense of US labor. That is the big picture that Trump is talking about with statements like that. Much of the wealth is still here, thanks to outsourcing much of it has concentrated in that upper upper percentile that Sanders speaks of. And thanks to outsourcing, alot of that wealth is kept offshore in both foreign divisions of domestic companies and foreign companies alike.

 

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TRUMP: "The jobs left, and the factories closed ... the wealth, strength and confidence of our country has disappeared over the horizon."
THE FACTS: The American economy is a lot healthier than the wreck Trump describes. Jobs have increased for a record 75 straight months. The U.S. unemployment rate was 4.7 percent in December, close to a nine-year low and to what economists consider full employment.
From July through September, the economy expanded at a 3.5 percent annual pace — fastest in two years. The Federal Reserve is so confident in the resiliency of the economy that it raised interest rates last month for only the second time in a decade.
Still, Trump's talk of "rusted-out factories scattered like tombstones across the landscape of our nation" rings true in communities that lost factories to low-wage competition from China and Mexico. And the jobless rate is low partly because so many Americans have stopped looking for work and are no longer counted as unemployed.
Wage growth has been sluggish since the Great Recession ended in mid-2009. But declining unemployment and steady job growth are starting to force businesses to offer higher pay to find and attract new workers.
And in 2015, the income for a typical household jumped 5.2 percent to an inflation-adjusted $56,516, the largest annual growth in nearly five decades, according to the Census Bureau. Average hourly pay rose last year at the fastest pace in more than seven years.



When Trump talks like this he isn't speaking just to the Obama years, or even just the Bush years. It goes back much further...Reagan-Bush-Clinton-Bush-Obama...actions have taken place through the years that vastly shifted employment, wages, corporate profits. The outsourcing phenomenon boosted corporate earnings like nobody could've imagined and it happened at the expense of US labor. That is the big picture that Trump is talking about with statements like that. Much of the wealth is still here, thanks to outsourcing much of it has concentrated in that upper upper percentile that Sanders speaks of. And thanks to outsourcing, alot of that wealth is kept offshore in both foreign divisions of domestic companies and foreign companies alike.


Any talk from Trump criticising wealth not making it down to the poor or middle class and claiming it's the governments fault is one of the dumbset things I've ever heard. One look at his cabinet picks will tell you that.

 

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Trump didn't run a campaign based on what he plans to do. His entire campaign platform was to unapologetically criticize the opposition and be as politically incorrect as possible. He won the election the minute he denigrated Mexicans. Why? Because he was willing to say what others were thinking but not willing to say. He's the Howard Stern of politics. I would imagine a very small fraction of his votes were casted based on his plans for America.


He most certainly did run a campaign based on his plans, and I put them up over and over again. If you refuse to acknowledge them, that is your mistake. For one thing, he is changing the taxation structure. He is also stopping the illegal immigration and breaching the Mexican borders. he is reapealing and changing the government mandated health care act, the Affordable Care Act, more commonly called Obamacare. Did any of these things slip by without you noticing? There are many other things he promised also. Do you need me to put them up for you?

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/policies/

Click on one and get an education.


He promised that within the first hour of the first day of his presidency that all the illegal criminals would be gone. I'm kind of pissed that the MSM didn't show the mass exodus to the border. Why didn't his administration highlight this instead of trying to defend the small crowd at his inauguration? I would have been impressed with Trump backing up his word rather than having his people tell some more lies.

But we need to get used to it. Regardless of what happens, we will see deflection blaming the media and all of his supporters will fall in line, keep their blinders on and protect their "alternative truths" at all cost.

 

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Any talk from Trump criticising wealth not making it down to the poor or middle class and claiming it's the governments fault is one of the dumbset things I've ever heard. One look at his cabinet picks will tell you that.




Oh please. You can hate Trump all you like. That will not bother me. But please, do you not understand what has happened to this nation with the trade deals passed by our federal government? And have you not heard what Trump has been saying?

I think you will be fine with this source, Thom Hartman.

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Before Reagan took office, we were the world's largest importer of raw materials and the world's largest exporter of finished, manufactured goods.

We were the world's largest creditor, we even loaned money to developing countries so that they could afford to buy American-made goods, and we had been running a trade surplus for most of the 200 years before Reagan took office.

Reagan started it, but every president since then has continued to destroy American manufacturing with insane trade deals like NAFTA, CAFTA, and Permanent Normal Trade Relations with China.

Even Barack Obama has negotiated sweeping new trade deals like the Transpacific Partnership and the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership, the TPP and TTIP.

It hasn't come at a small cost either, as Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders frequently points out, America has lost over 60,000 factories in just the last 15 years to so-called "free trade".

According to Public Citizen's Global Trade Watch, NAFTA alone cost us at least a million jobs in its first 20 years, creating a massive trade deficit with our trading partners and increasing income inequality in the United States.

Democrats need to realize that it's no secret that our trade deals are disasters, average working Americans know it well, because they've been hurt the worst.

And if Democrats don't wake up and come out strong against these disastrous trade deals, they risk losing industrial swing states like Ohio, Pennsylvania and Michigan in November.

Don Gonyea on NPRs Morning Edition talked to a former steelworker and lifelong Democrat in Canton, Ohio who is supporting Trump in this election based on his rhetoric on trade.

Other steelworkers told Gonyea that they would have supported Bernie Sanders because he was as clear as Trump about trade, but that given a choice between Trump and Hillary, Trump is more outspoken about how badly the middle class has been hurt by our disastrous trade deals.

And if anything should worry Democrats about the general election, it should be the very real possibility of losing the votes of rank-and-file working people and lifelong Democrats to Donald Trump and other down-ticket Republicans who might start parroting his anti-trade rhetoric.

Over 220 years ago, Alexander Hamilton presented Congress with a plan to transform America from a fledgling agrarian nation into the most productive industrial powerhouse that the world had ever seen.

And now it's time to do that again, and to reject our insane "free trade deals" that only benefit multinational corporations at the expense of the American working class.

We need a revival of Hamilton's sensible and proven trade policies that made America into the world's manufacturing powerhouse for nearly 200 years.

http://www.thomhartmann.com/blog/2016/06/if-democrats-don%E2%80%99t-start-t alking-trump-trade-they-will-lose


 

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Unfortunately much of what he said has been 100% true. I am not looking for another cheerleader President, who makes great speeches that the MSM adores, but someone who identifies the body rot and tells you even though you may not want to hear it.


Sorry, but in campaign mode and as President he lies at will. How many lies have we heard just since Friday. Do a bit of research on the rant Spicer gave to the press yesterday and tell us how many lies were present...at Trump's direction. Spicer didn't even have the balls to take questions.

Throw in today's admission (no surprise) that he no longer will release his taxes, and we're getting a beautiful picture of "Honest Don". No surprises here.


What are you hoping to find in his tax returns?


Oh...I don't know. Maybe how much you contributed to his campaign.

If your question wasn't another in a line of many snarky diversions, then you'd get a real answer.

Of course, if you know anything about taxes, and I suspect you do, then you should know the answer to your question.

 

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lived through that "sucking" sound of Bill Clinton's American selloff called NAFTA


Did you know that Bill Clinton did not sign NAFTA nor did he negotiate it. Do your NAFTA homework.

 

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