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  posted on 9/26/2016 at 11:19 AM
Anybody see the show last night?
 
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  posted on 9/26/2016 at 11:30 AM
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Anybody see the show last night?


No but here is some on it.

http://www.jambase.com/article/gregg-allman-returns-stage-special-red-rocks -set

 

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  posted on 9/26/2016 at 12:18 PM
This is for those of you who wrote the guy off as dead not long ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUkOu3PiFCI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jANSE5uGFbs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9FP9jvT9Ro

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  posted on 9/26/2016 at 03:00 PM
I don't know man. Time has not been kind to Gregg. Seems like he was fulfilling a contractual obligation here. Probably still not well enough to do a full show with the band. I wish him the best.
 

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  posted on 9/26/2016 at 06:49 PM
Well, it's a performance..... Not one I would pay to watch though.

Big credit to Scott Sharrard for getting him through it.

It looks like he needs to take an extended break to get himself well before putting himself out there again.



 

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  posted on 9/26/2016 at 07:31 PM
I like the Allman/Sharrard acoustic duo... Wish They would play something new and original.
 

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  posted on 9/26/2016 at 08:55 PM
"Whipping Post" was pitiful. If this is any indication of quality of performance of the next shows ... I'm assuming there will be a band ... On the other hand "These Days" was similar to the Gregg Tribute. While Scott Sharrard may be a Godsend to Gregg, I'm just not a fan of his playing to me it's pretty pedestrian. And if the accompaniment isn't special, then Gregg's poor health and diminishing talent is accentuated. Hey just my two cents. I love Gregg and have seen him when he rocked so paying premium to see something less doesn't interest me. This isn't to say that with proper care that his health couldn't return to where he could perform up to or near his old self. Does Gregg actually have a manager? One who should say please get well first. Trying to tour 6 months after a liver transplant, didn't work. Trying to mount a full scale tour since isn't working either. It seems to me promoters would be getting slightly leery of booking GA. I'm assuming they're losing money on the cancellations. Maybe your mileage differs. I just would hate to see Gregg wind up like BB.

 

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  posted on 9/26/2016 at 08:57 PM
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This is for those of you who wrote the guy off as dead not long ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUkOu3PiFCI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jANSE5uGFbs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9FP9jvT9Ro

[Edited on 9/26/2016 by pops42]
I don't know man - that doesn't sound too good to me. Sorry.

 

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  posted on 9/26/2016 at 10:47 PM
As a Gregg fan I was cringing about the acoustic set. Puts you out there warts and all, at least with some drums there's a decent beat and it doesn't do the draggy folky thing....which I was afraid of.

I didn't watch more than 3 minutes of it. Couldn't.

 

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  posted on 9/27/2016 at 06:21 AM
Man, that is tough to watch. I wish the best for Gregg and his health.
 

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  posted on 9/27/2016 at 10:40 AM
Wow, I couldn't disagree more. I thought, all things considered, Gregg was fantastic. I'm not sure a lot of people are familiar with Gregg's very "laid back", pun intended, style when he performs in an acoustic setting. His voice was strong, he looked great and, I think, he would have sounded better had Warren been playing and singing back-up with him. I do agree with the review of Scott's playing, not saying he's not good. Gregg needs a stronger sidekick when he goes acoustic.

Go back and look at any 1970's era video of Gregg doing "Come and Go..." or "Melissa", or his acoustic sets at the Beacon doing "Oncoming Traffic", when he was healthy, its all very similar to what you saw at Red Rocks. I know to some he may seem lethargic, but that is him and it was how he did it even back in the '70's.

I watched all the Youtube vids for Red Rocks with great pleasure and wish he would do more acoustic gigs. Remember, he's not 100%, he's not 26 years old, and he still made an effort to honor his fans by performing.






 

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  posted on 9/27/2016 at 12:19 PM
I enjoyed it as well, thanks to pops42 for posting the videos.
nice rare acoustic whipping post, and digging around youtube I found an acoustic One way out from the show.
It's nice to see he's getting better everyday.

 

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  posted on 9/27/2016 at 12:23 PM
I am not going to say anything bad about Gregg. But I do have to say if you think this is what Gregg sounded like acoustically in the 70s you are downright delusional.
 

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  posted on 9/27/2016 at 12:38 PM
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I am not going to say anything bad about Gregg. But I do have to say if you think this is what Gregg sounded like acoustically in the 70s you are downright delusional.

Well said. I will say that when he starts the first verse of Whipping Post in that eerie voice I still get chills. Though it seems like a struggle at times, he is catering to life long fans even when his health isn't 100%, which is cool in my book

 

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  posted on 9/27/2016 at 02:23 PM
Man of many facets.
I was at the Felt Forum for the Laid Back Live show in 1974.
Half the crowd was up in arms because they weren't getting an electric Fillmore East copy of a show.
It was so good I went across the river to the Capitol in Jersey the next night for round 2. That show was even better.
Great to see Gregg back making music again.

 

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  posted on 9/27/2016 at 04:27 PM
I was there. Saw Gregg up close and the show. He did look a bit frail to me. I think he wanted to get out there and do the short acoustic set to calm some of the fear and rumors regarding his health. He was doing oxygen. I've seen him do it years before at Red Rocks. The altitude bothers him. That has to also affect the singing some as it makes you short of breath. I have issues with it also. I'd like him to rest and get healthy and then schedule longer periods of time between shows. I'm sure he could afford to work one or two days per week and take it easy the rest. Semi retired I believe they call it.
 

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  posted on 9/27/2016 at 04:55 PM


[Edited on 9/27/2016 by revonah]

 

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  posted on 9/27/2016 at 04:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIwnbYwmFOI

Mr Delusional here ... Thanks for that comment. Nice. You missed the point, entirely. With respect to my post, I didn't mean he sounds exactly like he did in the '70's. Check out the attached link to "Come and Go Blues". Yea, the altitude has an impact on his voice and breathing which has to be factored in. He has always had a very low key, mellow approach to his songs when just on an acoustic guitar. The same approach he took at Red Rocks. That is my only point. I hear a lot of people comment, mostly negatively, on Gregg's performance when playing an acoustic guitar...."not with it...", "too stoned" ... BS, it's him, it's the way he sings when he is alone.
They don't know enough about his, not the ABB, music. Check out the Gregg CD that is out of print. It has the outtakes and rehearsals for the GAT.... slower pace, slightly different timing and heartfelt emotion in his voice.

 

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  posted on 9/27/2016 at 05:37 PM
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Mr Delusional here ... Thanks for that comment. Nice. You missed the point, entirely. With respect to my post, I didn't mean he sounds exactly like he did in the '70's. Check out the attached link to "Come and Go Blues". Yea, the altitude has an impact on his voice and breathing which has to be factored in. He has always had a very low key, mellow approach to his songs when just on an acoustic guitar. The same approach he took at Red Rocks. That is my only point. I hear a lot of people comment, mostly negatively, on Gregg's performance when playing an acoustic guitar...."not with it...", "too stoned" ... BS, it's him, it's the way he sings when he is alone.
They don't know enough about his, not the ABB, music. Check out the Gregg CD that is out of print. It has the outtakes and rehearsals for the GAT.... slower pace, slightly different timing and heartfelt emotion in his voice.


Hey listen the Gregg Allman tour show I saw in Providence in 1974 was one of my favorite shows of the era. I am a fan of Gregg acoustic work for sure and have all of Gregg's older work and have the out of print one. So yeah I'll plead guilty to missing what you were saying.

 

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  posted on 9/27/2016 at 06:52 PM
Withholding a musical review of these.... they pose more questions than give answers for me.

 

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  posted on 9/28/2016 at 05:19 PM
Scott does a nice job on that W Post. Given some more rehearsal time and development, I can hear some really interesting ideas that could be turned into a great arrangement.

Thinking Gregg should stick to ballads. Always love his voice but I think slower tempo songs would suit him better at this point.

What happened to the new album he was supposed to release?? Wasn't that set to be released in August?

 

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  posted on 9/28/2016 at 05:35 PM
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Scott does a nice job on that W Post. Given some more rehearsal time and development, I can hear some really interesting ideas that could be turned into a great arrangement.

Thinking Gregg should stick to ballads. Always love his voice but I think slower tempo songs would suit him better at this point.

What happened to the new album he was supposed to release?? Wasn't that set to be released in August?


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Scott does a nice job on that W Post. Given some more rehearsal time and development, I can hear some really interesting ideas that could be turned into a great arrangement.

Thinking Gregg should stick to ballads. Always love his voice but I think slower tempo songs would suit him better at this point.

What happened to the new album he was supposed to release?? Wasn't that set to be released in August?


2017, It is going to be called Southern Blood.

 

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  posted on 9/28/2016 at 08:15 PM
What was the order of songs played? Was it as the videos appear on the jambase page?

The delivery on WP was a little rough, but I thought some of the songs he was pretty good. One Way Out was good. Some of the songs that Scott duets on may have helped mask some other things I may not have picked up on. Heard some cracking and weakness in his voice throughout some of the songs. Ha, when they were starting Love the Life I Live, Gregg informs the crowd "that was a mistake", of course, we are used to Gregg's mistakes, he's been doing stuff like that for decades.

He is what he is at this point. There could be some reasons/excuses for some of it, but I didn't feel it was bad given his age and general condition of late. Was it bad by 10 or 20 year ago standards? We all get to a point where nobody is as good as they once were.


 

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  posted on 9/29/2016 at 06:10 AM
After reading some more of this thread we did go back and listen to the other songs, and they were not bad. WP was not great. So. Upping my initial impression. But. Won't be putting those vids into rotation anytime soon.

Hopefully he'll bounce back. He knows he's on borrowed time. I'm sure he has considered that this next solo album could be his last. He's not naive.

 
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