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  posted on 6/25/2016 at 12:23 PM
It’s usually not a good sign to start a music review with qualifications. But I’ll start by saying I’m not a huge Grateful Dead fan. I like them ok but I’m hardly a passionate fan who’s intimately familiar with their entire catalog. That being said:

I was not a fan of the stage logistics. The set-up includes both clear and solid baffles between the band and the orchestra. The effect of this, from the floor, is to limit viewing of the orchestra to virtually zero. I’ve always admired watching the bows on the violinists, for example, all moving in unison, which I could not see at all.

Warren and band walk on stage at exactly 7:30. After a song or two the two backup singers join the “in front of the orchestra” musicians.

As for the music – while I’m sure this is interesting and different for WH, and challenging in certain ways, I did not think WH was challenged in the slightest bit as a guitar player. At no point does he "get after it." If one ever thought the Dead’s music was nothing but Jerry Garcia “noodling” around on the guitar, after last night I might agree with you.

One of the hardest working, most expressive guitarists I’ve ever seen (approximately 75 times) did not make a single “guitar” face in almost 2.5 hours of music. And even when he did some extended soloing, Garcia’s Wolf guitar is just such a “thin” sounding instrument. Not power and glory, no shock and awe at all.

A one hour first set followed by a 15 minute break, then a 75 minute second set. All done by 10:00 on the nose.

The best part of the show was watching a reasonable number of hippy chicks, ages 20-50, dancing around.

 
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  posted on 6/25/2016 at 05:22 PM
I saw the show last night in Atlanta and have a slightly different take. The orchestra was similarly walled off and I was surprised how sparingly they could be heard.

I took my seat early and noticed Jeff Sipe milling about, so I was pleased he was involved, and he did not disappoint, even being allowed a solo in the 2d set. The couple next to me had also seen the Nashville show, and the husband said he was a veteran of 100+ GD shows (me, only about 1/4 of that). He loved the show, and it was great talking to him about his exploits following the band, even to Europe.

I was sure they'd reprise Dark Star at the end, because the intro was only 4-5 min. This song seemed perfect for symphonic treatment, so the tiny taste was frustrating. Great, groovy, funky Shakedown confirmed my decision to go right there. First set ended w/ an excellent Morning Dew, a personal favorite of mine that eluded me until late in my GD career.

A first for me, seeing Warren in a suit (no tie though). He ditched it during the 2d set, as it was damn hot last night at 3/4 full Chastain. Pretty cool that Warren would dig deep into the catalog for Blues for Allah, and it was long and complicated (my neighbor was overjoyed to hear it, but it's always been too weird for me). Set ended w/ a just majestic Terrapin, and the deep cut China Doll encore was a nice surprise, though I was still hoping for that Dark Star reprise.

I'd say that if you are, or ever have been, a Deadhead, you'll be glad you went as I was.

Dark Star jam > Birdsong
Crazy Fingers
(Grateful Dead cover)
Shakedown Street
(Grateful Dead cover)
Standing on the Moon
(Grateful Dead cover)
China Cat Sunflower
(Grateful Dead cover)
Uncle John's Band Symphonic intro > Uncle John's Band
Scarlet Begonias
(Grateful Dead cover)
Morning Dew
(Bonnie Dobson cover)
Mission in the Rain intro > High Time
Jam > West LA Fadeaway
Touch of Grey
(Grateful Dead cover)
Doing That Rag > Drums >
Blues for Allah jam > Unusual Occurrences in the Desert
Terrapin Station
(Grateful Dead cover)
China Doll (encore)



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  posted on 6/26/2016 at 03:31 PM
The Atlanta show is up on E-tree.

http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=587229

 

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  posted on 6/27/2016 at 08:48 AM
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I saw the show last night in Atlanta and have a slightly different take.

Brock


Damn, Brock. I have been so busy this summer, I didn't think to see if you were going. Apologies. Are you going to the Darrel Scott show at the City Winery?

I was fortunate enough to land in the 3rd row in front of Warren, and I got some excellent scrunchy faces, especially when he broke out the wah and reverse delay. I moved back for the last few songs, and the sound was much better than close. It was fun to hear the electric band's sound come directly off the stage, though. Several highlights for me, but the one that really stands out was "Terrapin." Really gorgeous.

Berkhath, I hear you when you say there was no "shock and awe," but I would probably find it inappropriate given the circumstances. I'd have to mull as to where it would fit in. I really enjoyed hearing what the orchestra was doing to augment the songs. Had I not been a Dead fan, I don't know if that would have intrigued me as much. I'd have to mull on that as well.

My biggest niggle was with the crowd. It confounds me that people pay decent money to see shows only to talk incessantly.

Peace.

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[Edited on 6/27/2016 by Blooby]

 

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  posted on 6/27/2016 at 09:04 AM
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I saw the show last night in Atlanta and have a slightly different take.

Brock


Damn, Brock. I have been so busy this summer, I didn't think to see if you were going. Apologies. Are you going to the Darrel Scott show at the City Winery?

I was fortunate enough to land in the 3rd row in front of Warren, and I got some excellent scrunchy faces, especially when he broke out the wah and reverse delay. I moved back for the last few songs, and the sound was much better than close. It was fun to hear the electric band's sound come directly off the stage, though. Several highlights for me, but the one that really stands out was "Terrapin." Really gorgeous.

Berkhath, I hear you when you say there was no "shock and awe," but I would probably find it inappropriate given the circumstances. I'd have to mull as to where it would fit in. I really enjoyed hearing what the orchestra was doing to augment the songs. Had I not been a Dead fan, I don't know if that would have intrigued me as much. I'd have to mull on that as well.

My biggest niggle was with the crowd. It confounds me that people pay decent money to see shows only to talk incessantly.

Peace.

Blooby

[Edited on 6/27/2016 by Blooby]


Sorry to have missed you Bruce. I was in Box 1 right, so we must have been close.

Did not know Darrell was coming to the Winery. I want to check it out so this may be just the right opportunity. Send me an email w/ your seat location and I'll try to get close. Let me know too if you're coming for TTB in Alpharetta.

 

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  posted on 6/27/2016 at 10:58 AM
Heard this show a few years back at Wolftrap when I was still in DC.

Excellent.

Very different than a jam show from Haynes. WH has said the big difference is that the symphony is reading music and he has to "hit the marks". So less improv, more structure.

I am a total jam slut but I like different things to stimulate my brain from time to time.

Great songs, great singer/guitarist and band, beautiful string arrangements.

I hope they put out a solid pro recording of this one of these days.

[Edited on 6/27/2016 by aiq]

 

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  posted on 6/27/2016 at 07:54 PM
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It’s usually not a good sign to start a music review with qualifications. But I’ll start by saying I’m not a huge Grateful Dead fan. I like them ok but I’m hardly a passionate fan who’s intimately familiar with their entire catalog. That being said:

I was not a fan of the stage logistics. The set-up includes both clear and solid baffles between the band and the orchestra. The effect of this, from the floor, is to limit viewing of the orchestra to virtually zero. I’ve always admired watching the bows on the violinists, for example, all moving in unison, which I could not see at all.

Warren and band walk on stage at exactly 7:30. After a song or two the two backup singers join the “in front of the orchestra” musicians.

As for the music – while I’m sure this is interesting and different for WH, and challenging in certain ways, I did not think WH was challenged in the slightest bit as a guitar player. At no point does he "get after it." If one ever thought the Dead’s music was nothing but Jerry Garcia “noodling” around on the guitar, after last night I might agree with you.

One of the hardest working, most expressive guitarists I’ve ever seen (approximately 75 times) did not make a single “guitar” face in almost 2.5 hours of music. And even when he did some extended soloing, Garcia’s Wolf guitar is just such a “thin” sounding instrument. Not power and glory, no shock and awe at all.

A one hour first set followed by a 15 minute break, then a 75 minute second set. All done by 10:00 on the nose.

The best part of the show was watching a reasonable number of hippy chicks, ages 20-50, dancing around.



Maybe this wasn't a show you needed to see . It's the the Mule or ABB it's a "symphonic tribute " . I'm far from a HUGE Dead fan , but I'm definitely a big fan .
I don't think it's about Warren being challenged or his need to go after it .
If you happened to catch the interview with Warren sitting on Bobs couch at TRI studios , he's very animated and excited about the project . He genuinely sounded like he loved the idea , the process and performing the shows with the orchestra and background singers .

I enjoyed the show when I saw it .

 

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  posted on 6/28/2016 at 01:09 PM
I got the chance to go to the Chastain show somewhat last minute so I hadn't thought too deeply about what was coming. I knew of course it would be a wonderful crowd and I made acquaintances with many fine people. Then, from the opening notes of Dark Star I knew this event was going to be something very special. And yes, seeing Mr. Reliable Jeff Sipe on the kit was a real bonus.

Our seats were around the side a bit, pretty low but not in the pit. At times I struggled to hear what the orchestra was contributing, it sounded muted. And as so often happens when you're confronted with an amazing guitarist, it is easy to be hypnotized by the power of their playing.

I went down to the floor for a couple of songs and the whole time I kept thinking something isn't right. That's when it struck me - "go for the hills fool"! I grabbed a couple of friends and moved up and center about 50 steps and suddenly, ahhhh... the orchestra, band and vocals were blending beautifully! I realized that down towards the stage there wasn't enough room for the acoustic and electric forces to sync before the sound hit you. Up top it was a fantastic interaction of sounds and you could really hear the orchestra kicking it in. What a treat! And yes, the Terrapin was over the top!

My hats off to Warren for honoring Jerry like this. It not only sheds new light on his compositions, but deepens all our appreciation of what Jerry brought to us all. I am really in awe of Warren for his tireless efforts to keep live music so alive!

And now for the major disappointment of the night. I didn't find out until the end of the show that Warren was playing Wolf - Jerry's main guitar from the 70's. I was crushed that I hadn't picked up on that so I could pay extra attention to the sounds coming off that sacred instrument. But hey, another real honor to Warren that the Garcia estate is allowing him to take Wolf on the road so it can continue to blow our minds!

 
 


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