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  posted on 3/11/2004 at 06:31 PM
WASHINGTON - Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry on Thursday rejected demands that he apologize for calling his critics in the Republican Party "the most crooked, you know, lying group I've ever seen."

thank you god: We shall over come the last four years of horror

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  posted on 3/11/2004 at 07:29 PM
Yes, with a chameleonic weasel like Kerry at the helm we will surely be secure from the doings of those which seek our demise. This war is not over by a long shot!
 

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  posted on 3/12/2004 at 03:37 PM
Kerry is all over the map. It is a battle against himself versus his own record. His Kerry amendment cutting our intelligence capabilities, something that even Ted Kennedy voted against, will come out shortly

In 1995, two years after the first World TRade center attack, Kerry proposed cutting our intelligence funding by 1.5 billion over the next five years. Kerry is coming up with lame excuses as to why he did it. But he could find no other sponsor, and when Ted Kennedy even goes against it that is amazing.

THis is only the start. Much more to come.

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  posted on 3/12/2004 at 03:48 PM
I'm getting way to involved in this but heck it's Friday I said this elsewhere but it fits here

I understand that Kerry has criticized The Bush Administration for not supplying our troops with everything necessary to insure their health and safety the best we can.

Funny though he voted against the bill that would appropriate the funds for those exact things.

So he wants Bush to take better care of our soldiers as long as it doesn't cost anything?

That sort of thinking costs lives which you can't put a price on.

Yeah I really don't want this guy making life or death decisions for us.

 

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  posted on 3/12/2004 at 04:27 PM
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That was in 1995. I'm quite certain he has a different view on intelligence now. I think he's smart enough to realize it's a necessity, after the first bombing, 9/11, and Bushs' own admissions of his intelligence failure. I'm confident that Kerry realizes the differences between 1995 and 2004, and I'm also confident that Kerry is well aware of all the dangers of terrorism and will take the necessary precautions to prevent it. Any man would be aware of this problem. How could someone not be conscious of it after 9/11 and now the attacks in Madrid? To say that he isn't is a pretty harsh insult.



Let's see, we did not see it coming when they almost brought down the World Trade center in the early 1990's. Response to that? Let's cut our intelligence.

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Every politician has his faults. If these are Kerry's only faults, I'm still pretty impressed by him.


I am only scratching the surface. His rfecord is a mile long and a mile wide. (cough Patriot Act, cough)

I have went into Iraq-Saddam-Al QWeaeda ad naseum. As for Madrid, tell me that the ETA knew nothing of this, or that a connection between Al Qaeada and ETA is impossible. Like I said before, Irish Republican Army operatives caught last year training FARC communist rebels explosives in South America. It is all connected, and the naivete on this subject is amazing. Wake the hell up.

Iraq sends a message over the bow of all those bastards. What I see is the problem is the possibility that something even resembling democracy works in Iraq. That actually pisses some folks off.

And, I guess it is a coincidence that Susan Landaur, who was arrested yesterday for spying and helping the Saddam-Iraqi intelligence services etc, is a democrat who has worked for four different democratic lawmakers. Carol Mosely Braun says she doesn't remember her? How the hell does a politician not remember her own press secretary?? DOn't think so.

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  posted on 3/12/2004 at 04:38 PM
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Iraq sends a message over the bow of all those bastards. What I see is the problem is the possibility that something even resembling democracy works in Iraq. That actually pisses some folks off.



It scares the hell out of the Saddams & Osamas of the world, And it should!

 

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  posted on 3/13/2004 at 01:54 PM
While I am sitting here eating my peach, I thought we could look at a more factual account of the $1.5 billion cut that is being twisted about.


Washington Post: President Overstates Kerry's Record on Intelligence Budget


March 12, 2004

Washington Post
By Walter Pincus and Dana Milbank

President Bush, in his first major assault on Sen. John F. Kerry's legislative record, said this week that his Democratic opponent proposed a $1.5 billion cut in the intelligence budget, a proposal that would "gut the intelligence services," and one that had no co-sponsors because it was "deeply irresponsible."

In terms of accuracy, the parry by the president is about half right. Bush is correct that Kerry on Sept. 29, 1995, proposed a five-year, $1.5 billion cut to the intelligence budget. But Bush appears to be wrong when he said the proposed Kerry cut -- about 1 percent of the overall intelligence budget for those years -- would have "gutted" intelligence. In fact, the Republican-led Congress that year approved legislation that resulted in $3.8 billion being cut over five years from the budget of the National Reconnaissance Office -- the same program Kerry said he was targeting.

The $1.5 billion cut Kerry proposed represented about the same amount Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.), then chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, told the Senate that same day he wanted cut from the intelligence spending bill based on unspent, secret funds that had been accumulated by one intelligence agency "without informing the Pentagon, CIA or Congress." The NRO, which designs, builds and operates spy satellites, had accumulated that amount of excess funds.

Bush's charge that Kerry's broader defense spending reduction bill had no co-sponsors is true, but not because it was seen as irresponsible, as the president suggested. Although Kerry's measure was never taken up, Specter's plan to reduce the NRO's funds, which Kerry co-sponsored with Sen. Richard C. Shelby (R-Ala.), did become law as part of a House-Senate package endorsed by the GOP leadership.

In his campaign speech Monday, Bush said that in 1995, "two years after the [first] attack on the World Trade Center, my opponent introduced a bill to cut the overall intelligence budget by one-and-a-half billion dollars. His bill was so deeply irresponsible that he didn't have a single co-sponsor in the United States Senate. Once again, Senator Kerry is trying to have it both ways. He's for good intelligence, yet he was willing to gut the intelligence services. And that is no way to lead a nation in a time of war."

Bush repeated the charge in New York last night, saying, "Intelligence spending is necessary, not wasteful."

White House spokesman Trent Duffy referred questions about Monday's speech to the Bush-Cheney campaign because "it was a campaign speech." Terry Holt, spokesman for the campaign, said he will look into the origins of the speech because he did not know about the situation in 1995. But, he said, "The president was using one very appropriate example of Kerry's lack of commitment to the intelligence community."

On Sept. 29, 1995, Kerry introduced S. 1290, the "Responsible Deficit Reduction Act of 1995." On page 5 of the 16-page bill, Kerry proposed to "Reduce the Intelligence budget by $300 million in each of fiscal years 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, and 2000." The item was one of 17 cuts Kerry proposed from the Defense budget, including a phaseout of two Army light divisions and ending production of Trident D5 submarine-launched ballistic missiles. The bill also proposed 17 non-defense cuts, including ending the international space station and reducing federal support for agriculture research and various changes to government purchasing.

Five days before Kerry introduced his legislation, The Washington Post reported that the NRO had hoarded $1 billion to $1.7 billion of unspent funds without informing the CIA or the Pentagon. Months earlier, the CIA had launched an inquiry into the NRO's funding after complaints by lawmakers that the agency had used more than $300 million of unspent classified funds to build a Virginia headquarters for the organization a year earlier.

Kerry campaign officials said yesterday that the $1.5 billion in cuts he proposed were meant to take back the $1 billion to $1.7 billion the NRO had salted away -- but the legislation and Kerry's floor statement, inserted in the Congressional Record that day, did not specify the reason for the proposed cuts. The campaign has no proof that the cuts were for this purpose, but officials point to his joining Specter and others in proposing legislation that resulted in reducing the NRO's fund reserves over the next five years.

Four days before Kerry's legislation was introduced, House and Senate defense appropriations subcommittee chairmen, Rep. C.W. Bill Young (R-Fla.) and Sen. Ted Stevens (R-Alaska) announced they had "agreed upon additional reductions to NRO funding in order to ensure that only such amounts as are necessary." They did not at that time disclose amounts.

Under the congressional plan approved in late 1995, about $1.9 billion was taken from NRO reserve funds through 1997, and another $1.9 billion over the following two years, according to a senior intelligence official familiar with the NRO's activities.


 

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  posted on 3/14/2004 at 01:04 AM
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And I'll take any democrat over Bush. I'd rather see Al Sharpton in the White House than Bush.
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I understand the frustration but come on... Sharpton?

 

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  posted on 3/15/2004 at 10:23 AM
I think all these recent terror attacks (Spain and now Israel), proves that Bush was wrong about Iraq. Saddam and Iraq never had anything to do with Al Queda

That's quite true. Sadly, the Spanish electorate seems to agree with Cheney, ironically enough.


 
 


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