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  posted on 2/13/2015 at 02:39 AM
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  posted on 2/13/2015 at 08:21 AM
Nice! Susan T looks cool playing a Strat too.

 

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  posted on 2/13/2015 at 08:58 AM
Thought it might be a thread about one of my ex-girlfriends. Was hoping to vent about some of my lingering issues.

 

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  posted on 2/13/2015 at 09:12 AM
Thanks, I love Susan.... such a cool player and a great blues voice!

... I just picked up Back To The River and Wait For Me... love them both.

 

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  posted on 2/13/2015 at 11:53 AM
Susan is mega talented!

I am always so surprised by the amount of negativity towards her.

Thanks for the link.

 

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  posted on 2/13/2015 at 12:08 PM
Many of us are too. Oh well. TTB works just fine for me. Probably the act that I most look forward to seeing right now. And each show that I see is better than the one before it. Not much to complain about for me and they are real nice people on top of all of the music. Wish them nothing but the best and look forward to seeing them even after the kids stick me in some home.

 

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  posted on 2/13/2015 at 12:43 PM
So either you love her contributions......or you are labeled as one who despises her?

Wow.

 

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  posted on 2/13/2015 at 01:06 PM
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So either you love her contributions......or you are labeled as one who despises her?

Wow.




No I don't think so anyway. I think most that don't like her just don't like her voice or style which is obviously fine. Some hate her for other reasons which again is fine. I don't get it but don't need to.

But for a great band with people that are loved on this site, they sure take a lot of abuse. Which again is fine. Even if Susan isn't your favorite, this band smokes.

 

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  posted on 2/13/2015 at 01:20 PM
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Some hate her for other reasons which again is fine.


No form of "hate" is fine Imho. I just don't buy into the colloquially "acceptable" use of the term "hater". Hate is a very strong word. I do not for one minute believe there is one person on this board who truly "hates" her, some of us have a dissenting opinion about her skill set...which is fine with me, as are all who just, disagree and have the cajones to say so.

 

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  posted on 2/13/2015 at 01:23 PM
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Some hate her for other reasons which again is fine.


No form of "hate" is fine Imho. I just don't buy into the colloquially "acceptable" use of the term "hater". Hate is a very strong word. I do not for one minute believe there is one person on this board who truly "hates" her, some of us have a dissenting opinion about her skill set...which is fine with me, as are all who just, disagree and have the cajones to say so.



I gotta ask...

Then why did you have her sign that guitar?

 

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  posted on 2/13/2015 at 01:24 PM
I've been a fan of Susan's guitar playing for awhile,pre dating TTB.

In 2007 I recall having a very nice conversation about Susan's playing with Derek,and its roots in Otis Rush.

If anything her playing has steadily improved and has become more nuanced since then.

I'm not hater,but I'm a fan of her voice only in very small doses.

 

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  posted on 2/13/2015 at 01:40 PM
Susan has caught some real degrading put downs here and any regular reader should remember that.

 

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Some hate her for other reasons which again is fine.


No form of "hate" is fine Imho. I just don't buy into the colloquially "acceptable" use of the term "hater". Hate is a very strong word. I do not for one minute believe there is one person on this board who truly "hates" her, some of us have a dissenting opinion about her skill set...which is fine with me, as are all who just, disagree and have the cajones to say so.



I gotta ask...

Then why did you have her sign that guitar?




Fair enough. it was back in '09 or so during a performance from "Soul Stew Revival". And the answer is: Derek had his band and she hers. I appreciated both bands and the fact that they could collaborate and then return to their solo projects, I liked her in very small doses, that's all. I wanted Derek to sign and Susan was standing there smiling.

 

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  posted on 2/13/2015 at 01:48 PM
Well I can't speak for others about the whole hate issues. Hate/Dislike/ Despise/ Can't Stand are variations on the same theme. Some here (who I like very much) have made a hobby of "hating" her. I agree with you that they likely do not "hate" or wish her harm. Definitely feel the need to say they don't like her in every single thread about the TTB. I see Dead threads here all the time. Never really liked the Dead much and mostly based on the singing. Not a single guy can sing in tune for a whole song and when they sing together - look out. The first tour Phil did with Warren/Jimmy, he was singing more than Warren. What was he thinking? The look on my wife's face when Phil started singing was priceless. Soon followed by the question "How long do these guys play?".

But I don't feel the need to mention how bad they sing in every thread about the band. Some love it which is fine by me. Enjoy! But why waste my energy telling people that enjoy something that I don't enjoy it? Seems kind of pointless to me but again it is out of my control.

The thread title is just part of the long standing joke/debate. It was actually a love fest till your post.

 

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  posted on 2/13/2015 at 01:52 PM
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It was actually a love fest till your post.


A love fest entitled, "Susan Haters"

 

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  posted on 2/13/2015 at 02:07 PM
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It was actually a love fest till your post.


A love fest entitled, "Susan Haters"



Hey I didn't write it, I just read the book. Just because it's there, you don't have to take the bait. Or maybe you do. Either way, it's all good with me.

Jerry, Bob and definitely Phil are terrible but I don't hate them. Thank God for the long jams between singing.

 

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  posted on 2/13/2015 at 02:48 PM
This is good stuff!
Anyone know where the "I love Susan" thread is?

 

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  posted on 2/13/2015 at 02:51 PM
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Susan has caught some real degrading put downs here and any regular reader should remember that.


I do,Tony...you are right,some horrible things were said. But there are people like BIGV,ABSNJ,and others including me,who are critical but who are not haters or even "dislikers",or "can't standers"ABSNJ and BIGV like Susan but not TTB,preferring Susan with her own band.I like Susan's guitar playing,some of her signing,but,in general I don't enjoy TTB.I do like select songs,recently an outstanding,Elmore James style version of Done Somebody Wrong.

Finally,I can easily agree that those who feel the need to denigrate Susan every time there's a TTB thread are simply raining on someone's parade.So you won't see me doing that....I think I've grown up enough!

 

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Thought it might be a thread about one of my ex-girlfriends. Was hoping to vent about some of my lingering issues.


 

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  posted on 2/14/2015 at 07:13 PM
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Susan is mega talented!

I am always so surprised by the amount of negativity towards her.

Thanks for the link.


You mean you weren't aware that Susan is the Yoko Ono of the DTB...that she single handily stole Derek from his band and made him play with her......only to diminish his playing at the expense of backing her up....

...Haters????...did I sum that up pretty close????

TTB is a complete band a power house....yet because Derek doesn't solo endlessly it's all Susan's fault....

Love that lack of logic......it's so delusional

 

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  posted on 2/14/2015 at 07:50 PM
This works both ways as plenty of folks who simply preferred the Derek Trucks Band to Soul Stew Revival or the TTB are labeled Susan "haters".

I like Susan just fine but preferred the DTB to both of the other bands.

 

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  posted on 2/14/2015 at 09:20 PM
huh?

 

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  posted on 2/14/2015 at 09:34 PM
I think TTB and Gov't Mule is the future for younger ABB fans and I think both outfits are fantastic. Rumors were around 5 years ago that Derek was ready to move on from the ABB but according to some of Warren's interviews last year, he had been leaning that way too and certainly Susan wasn't behind that. I think she smokes and it's understandable that Derek wants to be in a band with her. I'm not sure why the ABB hung on for another 5 years after the 40th. Derek and Warren seemed to be ready to jump off in 2009. The shows were usually really good but everybody but Butch seemed to be focused on their own stuff and shows. Guess that is why they never got into the studio again after 2003. It was also interesting that Derek said in one interview last year that he and Warren felt a little awkward being in a band called the ABB without Dickey but since they both played in the band with Dickey, they were the guitar players that could make it legitimate to be the ABB. And Warren said Dickey's sound was such a big part of the band from the beginning that is was different without Dickey and he and Derek would tip their hats at Duane and Dickey on the old stuff to make it sound more like the ABB. I agree that the band was more different than ever. With Duane, Berry AND Dickey missing from the front line it seemed a little like a replacement band or whatever you want to call it but I bet ONLY to old guys like me who were into the band when Duane was alive. Younger fans probably didn't notice Duane AND Dickey's signature ABB sound missing and the shows were really strong so that was the ABB to them. Have you ever wondered what the band would have sounded like in 2012 if Duane, Dickey and Berry were still there? It may have been not what we think even from Duane and Berry due to age and years of lifestyle. The Warren/Derek/Otiel lineup may have smoked the original technically in 2012 but that wouldn't be what old ABB fans care about. We saw Elvis when he was fat and couldn't sing and remember the words but we were still seeing Elvis and that is what we payed to see. But sometimes I wonder if Dickey just couldn't cut the gig anymore and that is why he filed suit and forced them to pay up for his contribution. I don't know. Maybe not. After reading Allen Paul's book, you almost get the impression that it was getting hard for Dickey to keep up with the schedule and he got mean and out of sorts because he was being pushed and didn't like it. But when Derek joined I thought Dickey was playing the best he had in years and was really inspired by Derek and how he reminded the band of Duane but apparently by the next year Dickey was so out of sorts that Gregg and Butch were going to quit if Jaimoe didn't agree to make the change. And in 2000 Dickey was worth a lot more money than the others and even Gregg; so he didn't need to work and playing every year may have been too much for an older millionaire with some booze and drug problems. I think Warren got it right when he said the ABB probably needed to not play every year after about 1993. Play every 2 or 3 years was Warren's prescription for the band but the problem with that was, a lot of people were counting on the band to work every year for their personal living. Sometimes the Rolling Stones and other long time bands would be off the road for several years and I remember people wondering if the Stones had broken up it had been so long between tours. Of course Mick and Keith are so wealthy, they haven't needed to work in decades. So they can easily drop out for several years and no sweat. Apparently Dickey doesn't need to work. He goes months without playing a show in recent years and when he does play, it's just a short tour and small venues...and I bet Gregg could hang it up and still live well too. Gregg just lives to play. I think he recently said he was going to keep on until they carry him off the stage.
 

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  posted on 2/15/2015 at 12:42 AM
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This works both ways as plenty of folks who simply preferred the Derek Trucks Band to Soul Stew Revival or the TTB are labeled Susan "haters".

I like Susan just fine but preferred the DTB to both of the other bands.


That's more than fair....I happen to like them all...in fact I see very little difference between this band and soul stew revival other than the name change and it's more refined now.

I don't see anyone as a hater simply because they prefer DTB to this band....but there has been many posts suggesting that Susan is literally the Yoko Ono of the DTB....like she dragged him away...and stifled his artistry...because to most if he's not endlessly soloing he's wasting his artistic direction..........he came to the TTB for more reasons than any of know....

 

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  posted on 2/15/2015 at 04:55 AM
I think the title of the thread is wrong.... seems to me to be luring a "hater" response.

I love all the related bands including Susan's pre Derek and with Derek as well as Gov't Mule and Derek's band.

I think Derek's a grown man and can make his own decisions without the haters from this site.... and I also think they should get a life and leave it be... how is their hating going to change anything except keep making them look small and pathetic.

My 2 cents.......

 

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