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  posted on 4/29/2014 at 01:43 PM
The right thing was done today. Swift, to the point and severe. Its about time action is taken immediatley so all can move on!!

 

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  posted on 4/29/2014 at 02:22 PM
It wouldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/29/us/clippers-sterling-scandal/index.html?hpt=h p_t1

 

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  posted on 4/29/2014 at 02:33 PM
I agree with the response. There's no room in sports for that. However, the girlfriend is also the villain here, and I hope she goes to prison. She is a horrible human being. What she did was worse.
 

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  posted on 4/29/2014 at 02:46 PM
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I agree with the response. There's no room in sports for that. However, the girlfriend is also the villain here, and I hope she goes to prison. She is a horrible human being. What she did was worse.


Nonsense. The evidence suggests she has tapes with his full knowledge they were being done. She is a lowlife but nowhere near as bad as this despicable racist. There is zero evidence at this point that she has committed any crime.

 

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  posted on 4/29/2014 at 02:52 PM
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I agree with the response. There's no room in sports for that. However, the girlfriend is also the villain here, and I hope she goes to prison. She is a horrible human being. What she did was worse.


Nonsense. The evidence suggests she has tapes with his full knowledge they were being done. She is a lowlife but nowhere near as bad as this despicable racist. There is zero evidence at this point that she has committed any crime.


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  posted on 4/29/2014 at 03:17 PM
Sounds like they deserve one another.

 

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  posted on 4/29/2014 at 03:49 PM
What is the evidence that he knew he was being recorded?
 

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  posted on 4/29/2014 at 03:50 PM
Rusty, that is the truth! A match made in heaven.
 

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  posted on 4/29/2014 at 04:08 PM
I must admit, I'm a little surprised he was banned for life. Good for the NBA.

 

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  posted on 4/29/2014 at 04:10 PM
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I agree with the response. There's no room in sports for that. However, the girlfriend is also the villain here, and I hope she goes to prison. She is a horrible human being. What she did was worse.


The bigger question is would you have done her? Maybe it's time for a survey. Count me as a yes.

 

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  posted on 4/29/2014 at 04:13 PM
I'm a base, carnal male. Combine that with billions of dollars and I'm certain I would embarrass my Mother.

I don't think she did anything prison worthy, although I would not want to be on the receiving end of that woman scorned.

 

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  posted on 4/29/2014 at 04:24 PM
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The right thing was done today. Swift, to the point and severe. Its about time action is taken immediatley so all can move on!!


Don't think for a second that Mr. Sterling is going to go down without a fight. The more I read about him, the more I think this is just the beginning and will drag out in court for a long time, I suspect.

 

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  posted on 4/29/2014 at 04:37 PM
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The right thing was done today. Swift, to the point and severe. Its about time action is taken immediatley so all can move on!!


Don't think for a second that Mr. Sterling is going to go down without a fight. The more I read about him, the more I think this is just the beginning and will drag out in court for a long time, I suspect.


yea he will make a fortune on this and it really won't cost him anything to drag it out in court. the new owners of the team will pay. the team cost him 12 million and i have heard he can sell it for anywhere from 500 mil to 1 bil. on the other hand, with no advertisers he will have to spend alot more to keep team running. we'll see, i say he still owns team next season.

 

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  posted on 4/29/2014 at 04:55 PM
An excerpt from ESPN's Jason Whitlock:

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In our zeal to appear righteous or courageous or free of bigotry, a ratings-pleasing mob hell-bent on revenge turned Donald T. Sterling -- a victim of privacy invasion and white supremacy -- from villain to martyr.

In a society filled with impurities, the owner of the Los Angeles Clippers committed the crime of speaking impure thoughts in the privacy of a duplex he apparently provided for his mistress. And now an angry, agenda-fueled mob provoked NBA commissioner Adam Silver into handing Sterling a basketball death sentence.

When private conversations become public, it's important to react with logic and not emotion.
On Tuesday, just 72 hours after the release of Sterling's Pillow Talk Tapes by TMZ, a rookie commissioner imposed a lifetime ban on a flawed man whose rights were violated.

Mob rule is dangerous. Well-intentioned, TV-baited mobs are the most dangerous. They do not consider the consequences of their actions, and they're prone to take a simple-minded, instant-gratification approach to justice rather than a strategic one.

Removing Donald Sterling from the NBA solves nothing. It sets a precedent that will likely boomerang and harm the black players and coaches who are shocked and outraged that an 80-year-old man with a documented history of bigoted actions also has bigoted private thoughts.

Let's be careful here. From the owner's box to the locker room, professional sports are overrun with wealthy men in complicated, volatile sexual relationships. If TMZ plans to make "pillow talk" public and the standard is set that "pillow talk" is actionable, it won't be long before a parade of athletes joins Sterling on Ignorance Island.

A right to privacy is at the very foundation of American freedoms. It's a core value. It's a mistake to undermine a core value because we don't like the way a billionaire exercises it. What happens when a disgruntled lover gives TMZ a tape of a millionaire athlete expressing a homophobic or anti-Semitic or anti-white perspective?

Warriors coach Mark Jackson, who called for Clippers fans to boycott Game 5, seems quite vulnerable to mob rule. Jackson is super-religious. He's previously been extorted by a stripper he kept as a mistress. And some of the LGBT community views Jackson as homophobic.

The conversation revolving around Donald Sterling is unsophisticated, and so was the heavy-handed punishment. They're driven by emotion rather than logic. It does not serve the greater good of the offended black community. Sterling is a scapegoat. He is an easy target, a decoy so that we do not address the elephant he walked into his mistress' bedroom.

White-supremacy culture is created, maintained and run by rich white men, Sterling's peers. He is the longest-tenured owner in the NBA. Former commissioner David Stern had multiple opportunities to run Sterling out of the league for his bigoted actions. Sterling's peers have always protected him ... until he had the audacity and stupidity to be caught on tape explaining the culture they maintain.

It's comical to watch the well-intentioned mob circle around Sterling as if his unintended transparency says nothing about his peer group. It's equally comical seeing this issue framed as a "black issue," with black people running to suggest ways to clean up Sterling's mess.

White people should be wearing black socks, turning their T-shirts inside out, protesting outside the Staples Center. This is their culture, their Frankenstein. Or maybe they agree with Donald T. Sterling.

"I don't want to change the culture because I can't. It's too big."

It's also too beneficial. It's too comfortable.

Well-intentioned white people should be holding nationally televised panel discussions focusing on ways to lessen the damaging impact of white-supremacy culture. Well-intentioned white people who work within or support the NBA should be demanding that the NBA power structure cede some of its governing power to men and women who look like the overwhelming majority of the league's players.

Instead, the mainstream fanned the flames, enraging the angry black mob looking for a quick solution, a sacrificial lamb -- and now, by the end of the week, we'll be back to business as usual, pretending the stoning of Sterling harmed the culture that created him.

 

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  posted on 4/29/2014 at 05:08 PM
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A right to privacy is at the very foundation of American freedoms.


Does anyone think we have a right to privacy in today's United States? Didn't the Patriot Act take care of that?

 

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  posted on 4/29/2014 at 05:23 PM
What Donald Sterling could make if hes forced to sell the Clippers

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/04/29/what-donald-ster ling-could-make-if-hes-forced-to-sell-the-clippers/

Sports oligopolies and the economics of getting rid of Donald Sterling

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/04/29/sports-oligopoli es-and-the-economics-of-getting-rid-of-donald-sterling/

 

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  posted on 4/29/2014 at 05:25 PM
I'm ecstatic about Commissioner Silver's decision. Thank You, Sir!

 

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  posted on 4/29/2014 at 05:52 PM
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Sports oligopolies and the economics of getting rid of Donald Sterling

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/04/29/sports-oligopoli es-and-the-economics-of-getting-rid-of-donald-sterling/

And there you have it...

Interesting they mentioned MR in that article.

 

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  posted on 4/29/2014 at 06:01 PM
I read Whitlock's stuff all the time, but I think he is way off base in multiple ways in that article.

First off, he seems to insinuate that other NBA owners harbor the same feelings Sterling does...

"Sterling's peers have always protected him ... until he had the audacity and stupidity to be caught on tape explaining the culture they maintain."

So other NBA owners maintain a culture of white supremacy? That is a very bold statement, to say the least.

There are plenty of rich white men who are racists, I'll grant you that. But not every rich white person forbids their girlfriend from being seen in public with black people. Sterling isn't just another rich white guy doing what all rich white guys do. His behavior is something out of the 1800s and would be considered grotesque even by most privileged white folks.

He also says that this decision could "boomerang and harm the black players and coaches" when there isn't a shred of evidence that black players and coaches will be harmed by removing a blatant racist from the league. He says "It does not serve the greater good of the offended black community" but again offers no evidence or logic to support this claim.

He says "professional sports are overrun with wealthy men in complicated, volatile sexual relationships" but Sterling's relationship with Stiviano is not the issue, and has never been what this is about. Talk about missing the point!

He rants and raves about the right to privacy, but if these tapes were made consensually, something Sterling has not denied, he doesn't have a leg to stand on. This isn't somebody tapping his phone or eavesdropping on private conversations.

He even claims that Sterling has been made into a "martyr" when nobody, not even his own family, seems to agree with that.

Whitlock knows his sports, at least most of the time, but rarely have I seen one writer be wrong so many times in one article.

 
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  posted on 4/29/2014 at 06:02 PM
there simply is no room or reason in todays society to live with such an arrogant & ignorant attitude ~ glad an example has been made of him

 

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  posted on 4/29/2014 at 06:40 PM
"Mark Cuban was concerned about an arbitrary line being set for forcing people out of the league because of controversial beliefs that could be considered offensive.

"In this country, people are allowed to be morons," Cuban said. "They're allowed to be stupid. They're allowed to think idiotic thoughts.

"Within an organization like the NBA, we try to do what's in the best interest of the league, and that's why we have a commissioner and a constitution, and I think Adam will be smart and deal with Donald with the full extent available. But, again, if you're saying a blanket, 'Let's kick him out' -- I don't want to go that far because it's not about Donald, it's not about his position, it's about his mess -- and what are we going to make a decision on?

Cuban added that it was "damn scary" to ponder the thought of attempting to remove somebody from the NBA because of his personal beliefs.

"In no uncertain terms am I supporting what Donald Sterling said, or his position," Cuban said. "He's obviously racist, he's obviously bigoted. And in this day and age when you're in the public eye, you've got to be damn careful -- if that's your position, and that's unfortunately where you're at, you better be damn careful what you say, even in the privacy of your own home.

"But regardless of your background, regardless of the history they have, if we're taking something somebody said in their home and we're trying to turn it into something that leads to you being forced to divest property in any way, shape or form, that's not the United States of America. I don't want to be part of that."

 

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  posted on 4/29/2014 at 06:40 PM
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"But regardless of your background, regardless of the history they have, if we're taking something somebody said in their home and we're trying to turn it into something that leads to you being forced to divest property in any way, shape or form, that's not the United States of America. I don't want to be part of that."


He's a 100% correct. The phony outrage is joke. We give passes to so much worse, but because the media decided to blow this up, America follows the lead like the sheep that we are.

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there simply is no room or reason in todays society to live with such an arrogant & ignorant attitude ~ glad an example has been made of him


Are you saying that you have never in your life made an offensive remark in the privacy of your own home? And if you did, you believe you should face a lifetime ban from your employment industry?

 

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  posted on 4/29/2014 at 07:11 PM
Not all offensive remarks are created equal. You say we give passes to "so much worse"? Name a single human who has said something WORSE than what Sterling said, and has been given a pass and not criticized.

I have never said anything, either in public or private, that is even in the same solar system as forbidding my girlfriend from associating with black people. And not just any black person, but Magic Freakin' Johnson! One of the most beloved people in all sports, and possibly THE most beloved person in basketball.

The bottom line is that if the NBA didn't force Sterling to sell, the franchise would quickly fall apart and become a money-loser. Doc Rivers would leave, they wouldn't keep their top players like Blake Griffin and Chris Paul, and you can be damn sure that no free agents would be signing up to play for that jerk. I wouldn't expect fans to keep buying tickets and merchandise either, as long as Sterling was in charge.

Sterling has been a racist idiot for years, this story just brought it to light. This is not an isolated incident. He has been sued for sexual harassment, housing discrimination, and unlawful termination related to his odious beliefs.

Sorry man, even Sterling's own family has thrown him under the bus. If you want to defend him, it will be a lonely crusade.

 
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Not all offensive remarks are created equal. You say we give passes to "so much worse"? Name a single human who has said something WORSE than what Sterling said, and has been given a pass and not criticized.


We give passes to athletes who commit felonies. One owner just got a DUI....an action that could easily kill innocent people and children.

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Sorry man, even Sterling's own family has thrown him under the bus. If you want to defend him, it will be a lonely crusade.


I'm not defending him in the slightest bit. I find his comments to be disgusting. But the phony outrage is even more disgusting and entirely hypocritical. That's my only point.

 
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