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  posted on 4/29/2014 at 10:56 AM
Dolan runs 'em both. Look for the 4 postponed Beacon shows to be rolled into 1 show at MSG. I expect new tickets to be issued with the seats selected for the ticketholder by MSG for existing ticketholders. There be another couple of thousand tickets available for sale after taking into account the 2,800+ sold for each of the 4 Beacon shows.
 
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  posted on 4/29/2014 at 01:05 PM
I just don't see it happening. If and when the ABB plays NYC again, it will be at The Beacon.
 

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  posted on 4/29/2014 at 01:41 PM
I agree, i dont think this is a viable option to replace the postponed Beacon shows. There is no way to assign comparable seating to MSG from the Beacon. Too many people bought tickets in the secondary market for specific seats. Also, MSG is too big how could they allocate tickets in general? For example I wouldn't consider Balcony of MSG to be comparable to the balcony of the Beacon, at MSG your a mile away, the lower balcony at the Beacon are some of the best seats in the house. I also think a MSG would have more price points than the Beacon has, it would just be too hard to formulate.
It would cause more chaos then relief.

 

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  posted on 4/29/2014 at 01:43 PM
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I just don't see it happening. If and when the ABB plays NYC again, it will be at The Beacon.


I agree. MSG ain't happening. If they do that I will stay home and get refunds for my 3 shows.

 
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  posted on 4/29/2014 at 01:47 PM
"It would cause more chaos than relief." Is that not the Allman Brothers' way?
 

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"It would cause more chaos than relief." Is that not the Allman Brothers' way?


These days that is absolutely their way... so maybe your prophecy is correct Guru.

 

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  posted on 4/29/2014 at 03:49 PM
I have no inside information, but I must say they sounded great last April @ MSG when they closed out Friday night of the Clapton crossroads festival.....

 

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  posted on 4/29/2014 at 07:51 PM
How about this scenario, a 10 show Beacon December run culminating in a final NYE 3 set show!! Of course Gov't Mule would have to postpone their annual NYE run.

 

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  posted on 4/30/2014 at 06:36 AM
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Dolan runs 'em both. Look for the 4 postponed Beacon shows to be rolled into 1 show at MSG. I expect new tickets to be issued with the seats selected for the ticketholder by MSG for existing ticketholders. There be another couple of thousand tickets available for sale after taking into account the 2,800+ sold for each of the 4 Beacon shows.


I would not be surprised if this happens.

 

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  posted on 4/30/2014 at 08:05 AM
Postphone NYE run - I don't think so - why not have them both on NYE!!
 

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  posted on 4/30/2014 at 08:09 AM
Start the show at 6pm. Warren hits the last note at 6am?

I'd pay a lot of money for that odyssey.

 

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  posted on 4/30/2014 at 08:33 AM
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Start the show at 6pm. Warren hits the last note at 6am?

I'd pay a lot of money for that odyssey.


I'd also pay to see that; but given Gregg's health, and how Butch and Jaimoe get tired from drumming for just regular shows or how they need to take breaks or rest more now, I don't see it happening.

 

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I'd also pay to see that; but given Gregg's health, and how Butch and Jaimoe get tired from drumming for just regular shows or how they need to take breaks or rest more now, I don't see it happening.


I'd have ABB open with two sets. Gov't Mule could start a little before midnight giving Warren plenty of time to grab a bite and rehydrate.

 

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  posted on 4/30/2014 at 10:11 AM
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Dolan runs 'em both. Look for the 4 postponed Beacon shows to be rolled into 1 show at MSG. I expect new tickets to be issued with the seats selected for the ticketholder by MSG for existing ticketholders. There be another couple of thousand tickets available for sale after taking into account the 2,800+ sold for each of the 4 Beacon shows.


Impossible. How do you account for ticket holders who bought tickets thru a secondary sources? Those tickets are in someone else' name. It would be a logistical nightmare to try to accommodate existing ticket holders.

 

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  posted on 4/30/2014 at 12:00 PM
Or for people that have multiple nights...how would that work?
 

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  posted on 5/1/2014 at 07:32 AM
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How about this scenario, a 10 show Beacon December run culminating in a final NYE 3 set show!! Of course Gov't Mule would have to postpone their annual NYE run.



That ain't happening. You think Warren will let Gregg ruin the MYE gig?

 

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  posted on 5/1/2014 at 07:33 AM
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Dolan runs 'em both. Look for the 4 postponed Beacon shows to be rolled into 1 show at MSG. I expect new tickets to be issued with the seats selected for the ticketholder by MSG for existing ticketholders. There be another couple of thousand tickets available for sale after taking into account the 2,800+ sold for each of the 4 Beacon shows.


One major fault in your reasoning. Many people have tickets to all four postponed shows. I do, for instance

 

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Hi everyone, been a long time member here, but have never posted before. I've been checking this forum every day for any news about the postponed Beacon shows. Nice to "meet" you all. Wanted to post, for those of us who bought tickets through secondary markets like I did, I have written a long letter to StubHub, wanting to hear their answer to the question, if Ticketmaster is giving refunds than why aren't they? Not acceptable, that it's because the shows are still "postponed". Too many articles & interviews where members of the band have said "cancelled" when the Beacon shows were brought up. For myself, if I don't get a favorable response from StubHub, am going to write the Attorney General. This whole thing is just plain wrong. If everyone who purchased through secondary markets does this, watch how fast they'll refund. As much as I love ABB, I'm so disgusted at the way this has been handled by management, and if I decide I want to see them at the end of the year, or possibly 2015 (rumored), I'll decide then. For me, the magic of the 3/26 anniversary, and the "last" show, 3/29, is gone. I spent $1,600 for 5 tickets, 2 nights, and I could use the money now. I am a Sandy victim & at the time I bought these tickets, my house was supposedly all fixed. New issues have come up now, so I, for one, could really use the money back. No one knows what life can unexpectedly throw at you, so how dare they play with people's lives, which is what I feel now. Would I love to see them at year end or next year? OF COURSE, so I'll buy again, if I CHOOSE too. We can't allow them to run our lives. Saw post about someone trying to plan vacation schedule but is unsure of what to do because of the uncertainty of the Beacon show re-scheduling. Isn't that ridiculous & giving the powers that be, too much power & control over their fans??? This is an unfortunate lesson learned for me, and it's left such a bad taste in my mouth. Peace to all......


[Edited on 5/1/2014 by els3160]

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  posted on 5/1/2014 at 09:35 AM
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Nice to "meet" you all. Wanted to post, for those of us who bought tickets through secondary markets like I did, I have written a long letter to StubHub, wanting to hear their answer to the question, if Ticketmaster is giving refunds than why aren't they? Not acceptable, that's it because the shows are still "postponed". Too many articles & interviews where member of the band have said "cancelled" when the Beacon shows were brought up. For myself, if I don't get a favorable response from StubHub, am going to write the Attorney General. This whole thing is just plain wrong. If everyone who purchased through secondary markets does this, watch how fast they'll refund


Stubhub does guarantee the sale with the seller's credit card. The Attorney General is a great idea as well as many, many letters to Stubhub. They should be refunding money. Good luck in your fight! I wish you well and hope others join your crusade.

You might also contact your Congress Person.

[Edited on 5/1/2014 by BillyBlastoff]

 

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Hi everyone, been a long time member here, but have never posted before. I've been checking this forum every day for any news about the postponed Beacon shows. Nice to "meet" you all. Wanted to post, for those of us who bought tickets through secondary markets like I did, I have written a long letter to StubHub, wanting to hear their answer to the question, if Ticketmaster is giving refunds than why aren't they? Not acceptable, that's it because the shows are still "postponed". Too many articles & interviews where member of the band have said "cancelled" when the Beacon shows were brought up. For myself, if I don't get a favorable response from StubHub, am going to write the Attorney General. This whole thing is just plain wrong. If everyone who purchased through secondary markets does this, watch how fast they'll refund. As much as I love ABB, I'm so disgusted at the way this has been handled by management, and if I decide I want to see them at the end of the year, or possibly 2015 (rumored), I'll decide then. For me, the magic of the 3/26 anniversary, and the "last" show, 3/29 is gone. I spent $1,600 for 5 tickets, 2 nights, and I could use the money now. I am a Sandy victim & at the time I bought these tickets, my house was supposedly all fixed. New issues have come up now, so I, for one, could really use the money back. No one knows what life can unexpectedly throw at you, so how dare they play with people's lives, which is what I feel now. Would I love to see them at year end or next year? OF COURSE, so I'll buy again, if I CHOOSE too. We can't allow them to run our lives. Saw post about someone trying to plan vacation schedule but is unsure of what to do because of the uncertainty of the Beacon show re-scheduling. Isn't that ridiculous & giving the powers that be, too much power & control over their fans??? This is an unfortunate lesson learned for me, and it's left such a bad taste in my mouth. Peace to all......



Welcome to the forum. What town? I'm also a Sandy survivor; we live in Sea Bright NJ
your points are valid, they are holding our money for a long time now. I was lucky to "only" paid face but they are holding OUR money for a long time. I imagine since the concerts have not been officially cancelled that they don't have to refund your funds but I'm not a lawyer.

 

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Stubhub policy that is in your terms of purchase is that for a postponed show one needs to resell the tickets on your own. There are obvious reasons for this policy. So this limbo is really still on the Allman Brothers for this situation being in limbo. If the concert was officially cancelled the refund would have been made by stubhub long ago.
 

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Stubhub policy that is in your terms of purchase is that for a postponed show one needs to resell the tickets on your own. There are obvious reasons for this policy. So this limbo is really still on the Allman Brothers for this situation being in limbo. If the concert was officially cancelled the refund would have been made by stubhub long ago.


Wow, that's wild. So theoretically the shows could never be rescheduled and those holding StubHub tickets are left holding the bag.

 

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Stubhub policy that is in your terms of purchase is that for a postponed show one needs to resell the tickets on your own. There are obvious reasons for this policy. So this limbo is really still on the Allman Brothers for this situation being in limbo. If the concert was officially cancelled the refund would have been made by stubhub long ago.


Wow, that's wild. So theoretically the shows could never be rescheduled and those holding StubHub tickets are left holding the bag.


No. If the shows were never rescheduled they would officially become a cancellation and thus refunds would be issued immediately. If the Allmans announced today they were not playing these shows stubhub would do refund almost instantly.

 

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Nice to "meet" you all. Wanted to post, for those of us who bought tickets through secondary markets like I did, I have written a long letter to StubHub, wanting to hear their answer to the question, if Ticketmaster is giving refunds than why aren't they? Not acceptable, that's it because the shows are still "postponed". Too many articles & interviews where member of the band have said "cancelled" when the Beacon shows were brought up. For myself, if I don't get a favorable response from StubHub, am going to write the Attorney General. This whole thing is just plain wrong. If everyone who purchased through secondary markets does this, watch how fast they'll refund


Stubhub does guarantee the sale with the seller's credit card. The Attorney General is a great idea as well as many, many letters to Stubhub. They should be refunding money. Good luck in your fight! I wish you well and hope others join your crusade.

You might also contact your Congress Person.

[Edited on 5/1/2014 by BillyBlastoff]


I'm in the same stubhub boat but can fully admit a congress person or AG would give two craps about this situation. Not for nothing stubhub is not the problem, its the band and the bands management. It was our choice to purchase tickets on stubhub and I am sure there were a few times of accepting stubhub policies before purchasing tickets (you know those boxes people havea tendency to check off without reading what goes along with it?).
The move would be to contact ABB management, they are the problem here... not stubhub. I think enough fans did that and voiced their displeasure it might actually get somewhere.

 

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  posted on 5/1/2014 at 12:36 PM
Thank you for the welcome I'm in Oceanside, NY. Yes, I know SeaBright got hit hard, too. Hope you're having better luck than we are with insurance. You paid face value, does that mean you got them through Ticketmaster? If so, you CAN get a refund now.

Anyway, I know that's what StubHub's policy is, but for a case like this has become, exceptions should be made as far as I'm concerned. This makes not only the band look bad, but themselves also. And remember, it is also their policy that you have 2 weeks from date of the "official" cancellation announcement to get your money back. So that means, for example, if it takes 6 months for any announcement, we all have to keep checking at least on a weekly basis? I have enough on my plate to have to think about this, too. Yea, their SUPPOSED to send you an email if the official word comes out, but I don't trust anything at this point. I do agree, contacting our Congressman also....thanks Billy, I'm going to become their worst nightmare, LOL!

StubHub did just respond to me, but with a generic bullshyt answer, so I wrote back, that I want a specific answer. We'll see what happens....will keep you all updated since I know I'm not the only one who feels this way & is in the same boat as us. I was one of those, in the beginning, that stayed patient, was more worried about Gregg than the shows, etc., but after all this time and nothing's being said? No more. Peace all....which is always what I strive for

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