Don't click or your IP will be banned


Hittin' The Web with the Allman Brothers Band Forum
You are not logged in

< Last Thread   Next Thread >Ascending sortDescending sorting  
Author: Subject: Gregg asks film production to halt

Peach Master





Posts: 722
(722 all sites)
Registered: 6/5/2011
Status: Offline

  posted on 4/26/2014 at 12:31 AM
http://www.jambase.com/Articles/121478/Gregg-Allman-Asks-Biopic-Director-To -Stop-

The production of the Gregg Allman biopic Midnight Rider was halted earlier this year following the tragic death of crew member Sarah Jones. The film's director and producers are looking to pick up production of Midnight Rider according to multiple reports, which led to actor William Hurt quitting the film and Gregg Allman to pen a letter asking director Randall Miller not to proceed.

According to The Hollywood Reporter, Allman's letter started, “I am writing to you as one human being to another, and appealing to you from my heart. I am asking you from a personal perspective not to go forward.” Gregg excitement about the film has quickly waned following Jones's death, “When the idea of you producing the film first came about, I was genuinely excited about the possibility of sharing my story with fans around the world. Unfortunately, all of that changed for me on February 20 of this year. While there may have been a possibility that the production might have resumed shortly after that, the reality of Sarah Jones’ tragic death, the loss suffered by the Jones family and injuries to the others involved has led me to realize that for you to continue production would be wrong."

"Your desires as a filmmaker should not outweigh your obligations as a human being. I am asking you to do the right thing and to set aside your attempts to resume the production out of respect for Sarah, her family and the loss that all of us feel so deeply,” Allman wrote.

We've got to agree with Gregg here and hope the film's director and producers do the right thing.

 
Replies:

A Peach Supreme



Karma:
Posts: 2342
(2342 all sites)
Registered: 11/5/2002
Status: Offline

  posted on 4/26/2014 at 08:50 AM
Wow this post has been up for over 7 hours and not one of the regular Gregg Bashers has figured out an angle from which to criticize him.

 

____________________
"With the help of God and true friends I've come to realize,
I still have two strong legs and even wings to fly"

 

Peach Pro



Karma:
Posts: 437
(437 all sites)
Registered: 11/8/2008
Status: Offline

  posted on 4/26/2014 at 03:26 PM
Probably because there are at least 3 other threads about this topic from a few days ago. :)
 

Ultimate Peach



Karma:
Posts: 3131
(3184 all sites)
Registered: 7/9/2008
Status: Offline

  posted on 4/26/2014 at 05:34 PM
I feel bad that a person lost their life, but why stop production?? I'm not trying to be insensitive about the situation by any means and I respect Gregg's plea but a lot of Gregg's fans including myself were excited about this.
 

True Peach



Karma:
Posts: 13859
(13913 all sites)
Registered: 7/17/2002
Status: Offline

  posted on 4/26/2014 at 06:08 PM
quote:
I feel bad that a person lost their life, but why stop production?? I'm not trying to be insensitive about the situation by any means and I respect Gregg's plea but a lot of Gregg's fans including myself were excited about this.


The director of this film (who happens to be the writer of the screenplay and an EXECUTIVE producer) has a history of blatantly ignoring safety and authority during film shoots. He has a history of taking liberties and doing potentially unsafe stunts, shoots on locations without permission and in generally putting his crews at risk. As someone said in another thread, it was a matter of time until his disregard for safety in general caught up with him and it's a real shame that it had to happen on this film.

What will bear out when the various trials (criminal and civil) begin is that this guy DID NOT have the permission on be on the railroad trestle and in fact, was told he could not be there. Like a bad field marshall, he led his troops into danger. This all has to do with workplace safety and negligence. This is not that much different in a mining company operating an unsafe coal mine or something.

This horrible accident occurred on day 1 of shooting - which was actually supposed to be a camera test day (certain requirements for safety and medical crew get waived). So, it's not like half of the movie was in the can. Not that even this should make any difference, but if a certain amount of of work had been completed - a very slight and weak argument could be made in favor of finishing the project. But this isn't the case. There is really nothing to be completed at this point.

Yes, there are Gregg Allman fans who would like to see this film. But this particular film (a Randall Miller/Unclaimed Freight produced film titled "Midnight Rider") is now pretty much poison. The main actor - who came within mere feet of losing his own life on the day of that stolen shot attempt, has officially withdrawn. There is an outcry among union filmworkers to boycott/blackball the project. This in support of a fallen comrade.

What could happen (my opinion here) is years after the dust and lawsuits of "Midnight Rider" have settled, an entirely new production might be initiated. A new script written by a new screenplay writer with a new director and possibly different producers. I honestly believe that this is the best that we can hope for.

 

____________________
Music is love, and love is music, if you know what I mean.
People who believe in music are the happiest people I've ever seen.

Bill Ector, Randy Stephens, Dan Hills and a guy named BobO who I never met - Forever in my heart!

 

Ultimate Peach



Karma:
Posts: 3131
(3184 all sites)
Registered: 7/9/2008
Status: Offline

  posted on 4/26/2014 at 06:45 PM
Rusty thanks for the insight,I did not know the history behind this.
 

Sublime Peach



Karma:
Posts: 7595
(7595 all sites)
Registered: 10/12/2002
Status: Offline

  posted on 4/26/2014 at 06:53 PM
I'm with fender31, very interesting stuff by an industry insider, Rusty.

 

____________________
Don't let the sounds of your own wheels
Drive you crazy
Lighten up while you still can
Don't even try to understand
Just find a place to take your stand
And TAKE IT EASY

 

Peach Master



Karma:
Posts: 974
(974 all sites)
Registered: 4/14/2010
Status: Offline

  posted on 4/26/2014 at 08:28 PM
LOL...

quote:
Probably because there are at least 3 other threads about this topic from a few days ago.


I just learned that David Cassidy stopped touring after a woman was killed and 650 fans were injured in the crush/rush at one of his shows. I guess things can happen like that. I remember the time a fan flew from the balcony down to the first floor, hurting a few people at the Phil show. It is a terrible thing when people die before their time. It is terrible too to live a long time, seeing so many who have passed while you're still around. Who knows why God takes some people and spares others, at least for a while.


[Edited on 4/27/2014 by roboto]

 

Sublime Peach



Karma:
Posts: 7595
(7595 all sites)
Registered: 10/12/2002
Status: Offline

  posted on 4/26/2014 at 09:14 PM
quote:

"Industry insider"? Anyone can read news articles or google that **** and easily find it out.


Rusty has many years of experience in the film industry as most here would know. A newbie with a grand total of 33 posts who is only out to criticize anyone and everyone here would not be aware of this.

 

____________________
Don't let the sounds of your own wheels
Drive you crazy
Lighten up while you still can
Don't even try to understand
Just find a place to take your stand
And TAKE IT EASY

 

True Peach



Karma:
Posts: 13859
(13913 all sites)
Registered: 7/17/2002
Status: Offline

  posted on 4/26/2014 at 09:44 PM
To be completely fair, 72fan is pretty much correct. You can find a lot of constantly updated information by Googling the film title.

My own experience is more in corporate/industrial and documentary film and television. I tried early on to get in on "Midnight Rider" as a crew member. I was not selected. I even went to the "cattle call" for extras and was eventually put on a call-back list. Obviously, nothing will ever become of this.

My background and my interest in the subject matter has fueled my interest in the developments of the story behind the film. I kind of take what I perceive as negligence by Miller/Savin/Unclaimed Freight slightly personal. No, I wasn't on the crew but I have many friends and associates who work in film and television. I don't mean to come off all melodramatic or anything, but I think the people who made the BAD decisions that led to the loss of a human life should be held responsible.

I don't think Gregg Allman bears any direct responsibility in all this. My comments have never been intended as any sort of accusation towards him. After Sarah Jones' family, friends and loved ones - my most sincere thoughts and condolences go to Gregg and to the conductor of that train.

 

____________________
Music is love, and love is music, if you know what I mean.
People who believe in music are the happiest people I've ever seen.

Bill Ector, Randy Stephens, Dan Hills and a guy named BobO who I never met - Forever in my heart!

 

Ultimate Peach



Karma:
Posts: 3022
(3021 all sites)
Registered: 12/17/2008
Status: Offline

  posted on 4/26/2014 at 11:42 PM
Looks like 72fan got the Bobby Cox treatment and got tossed.
 

Universal Peach



Karma:
Posts: 6608
(6608 all sites)
Registered: 11/7/2002
Status: Offline

  posted on 4/27/2014 at 09:32 AM
"Wow this post has been up for over 7 hours and not one of the regular Gregg Bashers has figured out an angle from which to criticize him."

I am often critical of Gregg, so it's only fair that I give him credit for doing the right thing here.

It's the right thing to do, the smart thing to do, and I'm glad Gregg did it.

 
E-Mail User

Extreme Peach



Karma:
Posts: 1456
(1465 all sites)
Registered: 2/25/2003
Status: Offline

  posted on 4/27/2014 at 01:46 PM
quote:
Looks like 72fan got the Bobby Cox treatment and got tossed.


I wasn't sure if he was a troll or what his deal was.

I started to reply to one of his more ignorant comments but now I'm glad I didn't waste my time.

 

A Peach Supreme



Karma:
Posts: 2342
(2342 all sites)
Registered: 11/5/2002
Status: Offline

  posted on 4/27/2014 at 08:07 PM
quote:
"Wow this post has been up for over 7 hours and not one of the regular Gregg Bashers has figured out an angle from which to criticize him."

I am often critical of Gregg, so it's only fair that I give him credit for doing the right thing here.

It's the right thing to do, the smart thing to do, and I'm glad Gregg did it.
Hey Rob, my recollection is that your comments re: Gregg are fair and based on reality. Lets face it he IS an easy target and there is plenty of legitimate ammunition. But some folks here just seem to imagine crap based on their perception of who they "think" he is and a lot of it has no validity at all. It bugs me. Same with DB really, if someone wants to bash him there is plenty of ammo there as well. I don't know why some people seem to want to make them out to be worse people than they really are. They both have lots of issues but who doesn't? They are both original brothers and the original ABB would have never been the same without either one of them.

 

____________________
"With the help of God and true friends I've come to realize,
I still have two strong legs and even wings to fly"

 

Peach Master



Karma:
Posts: 695
(695 all sites)
Registered: 6/23/2004
Status: Offline

  posted on 4/28/2014 at 10:05 AM
[ It is a terrible thing when people die before their time. It is terrible too to live a long time, seeing so many who have passed while you're still around. Who knows why God takes some people and spares others, at least for a while.]

truer words were never spoken imho

I agree with Rob J, must give the devil his due....

In the few instances Ive had the chance to converse with Gregg, it seemed to me he puts on a false "tough guy" persona....a kind of protective shield, that if you are lucky and break through, you do see this caring , kind side of Gregg. I know I did.

Even the language , the words in his book , I felt, didn't ring true . In person, I found him surprisingly well spoken, an extremely intelligent man, that doesn't come across in his book at all imho.

* Side-note to Rob J, I would be interested in your take on the above. *

The sad stories perhaps, are believable, yet sad, even pitiful. The players victims of the times.

Most of the stories in the book I did find sad, btw, aside from his interactions with his idolized Big Brother, those stories seemed to be his happiest memories, as they should be.

Perhaps its a woman's perspective, men might read a different point of view into the same stories I found silly and sad.

I would imagine Gregg's lifestyle, his talent, his fame, his wealth, must draw plenty of "characters" to him, few with his better interest at heart, and he's learned that lesson well.

I think this recent statement truly comes from his heart, truly reveals what is deep inside the man, his vulnerable real self.

I would even go so far to wish he would take the time and write another book, maybe a dictated form, use that great voice if his, it is his blessing after all....Video record his thoughts, his memories all over again, find a good editor and start from square 1. Why not?

Close the door on all the nay-sayers..the man has done well in life, he set out to do something, held onto some lofty dreams, and he did it. He made his dream come true.

Not every man can say that, shoot, not every man can even claim a dream to aspire to , let alone dream big and attain.

Give credit where credit is due.


 

Maximum Peach



Karma:
Posts: 9304
(9381 all sites)
Registered: 10/29/2004
Status: Offline

  posted on 4/28/2014 at 10:38 AM
quote:
Give credit where credit is due.

Good stuff, Carol.
I have to say though....if there is anyone who could learn from your words above, it would be Gregg Allman.

It's not one of his stronger traits....

I too have seen Gregg be kind and compassionate, and to someone very close to me in a time of stress and chaos.

But...mostly not...

 

____________________
Well 30 years of heart and soul,lord we took it further than rock and roll.
We stood together thru thick and thin,yeah we made the best of it all back then.
Then I guess time took it's toll,cut me deep,cut me cold.
Brother against brother....

 

Universal Peach



Karma:
Posts: 6608
(6608 all sites)
Registered: 11/7/2002
Status: Offline

  posted on 4/28/2014 at 05:22 PM
Carol, I appreciate that you asked for my opinion, but as surprising as this is to some people, I have never met Gregg. I never so much as shook his hand or spoke a word to him the whole time I worked at HTN. I can't judge whether the book is a fair reflection of the man, but it's an autobiography with his name on it, so if it doesn't represent him well, that is on Gregg.

In fairness to Gregg, it's not like I ever really sought that kind of contact. I've never been that big of a fan, and Gregg is so intensely private that you really do need to make an effort to meet him, even if you work for the Allmans merch company. I was so far beneath him in the ABB universe, it wasn't like he was going to seek me out.

Most of my bitterness towards him comes from the business side of things. When I worked at HTN, he and his management constantly made our lives difficult, and probably cost Gregg himself some money in the process.

I will comment on this though...

"I would even go so far to wish he would take the time and write another book, maybe a dictated form, use that great voice if his, it is his blessing after all....record his thoughts, his memories all over again, find a good editor and start from square 1. Why not?"

My understanding is that is the exact same process they used for the first book, so I don't think you would get any different results.

 
E-Mail User

Peach Master



Karma:
Posts: 695
(695 all sites)
Registered: 6/23/2004
Status: Offline

  posted on 4/29/2014 at 08:25 AM
thanks Gentlemen

to Rob, yes ,that does surprise me

again, I chalk that up to some kind of shield/shell he has surrounded himself , likely combined with the usual arrogance some successful men seem to think is their due.

truth be told, that's his loss imho

on the occasions our paths have crossed, Kevin and I have always found you to be the kind of person that's goes out of his way to be friendly, earnest and hardworking, we look forward to seeing you whenever the chance ..just calling it how I see it.

in the words of my sweet little Irish Nana , to each, his own

in the end, I do think GA did the right thing by writing the letter, sometimes it takes such an unreasonable, outrageous, situation to draw out the inner good of a person.

evil is not only in the doing, it is on those that look away knowingly, and do nothing, you know?

on the other hand, as others have posted, I too would ultimately love to see a movie, a well made movie, come out of all this unsettled dust..sometime down the road..possibly dedicated to the young woman, with a portion of the $ going to her bereaved family.

while no $ can ever bring her back, it is the only measurement we have of settlement.

one question I do have..Im not sure where the idea of putting the mattress on the tracks came from to begin with..

folks referred to it as the dream sequence, but Im don't recall any dream sequence as such. Anyone?

oh, btw, going back to KCJimmy's comment- "I don't know why some people seem to want to make them out to be worse people than they really are. They both have lots of issues but who doesn't? "

that's an easy one, there always seems to be folks , possibly suffering some kind of low self esteem issue , that find the need to pounce on others, to puff themselves up. No doubt, always will be....

[Edited on 4/29/2014 by Carol]

 

Universal Peach



Karma:
Posts: 6608
(6608 all sites)
Registered: 11/7/2002
Status: Offline

  posted on 4/29/2014 at 04:57 PM
"on the occasions our paths have crossed, Kevin and I have always found you to be the kind of person that's goes out of his way to be friendly, earnest and hardworking, we look forward to seeing you whenever the chance ..just calling it how I see it."

Carol, that has to be one of the nicest compliments anyone has ever given me.

Friendly, earnest and hardworking is pretty much what I'm going for, so that makes me happy

 
E-Mail User
 


Powered by XForum 1.81.1 by Trollix Software


Privacy | Terms of Service
The ALLMAN BROTHERS BAND name, The ALLMAN BROTHERS name, likenesses, logos, mushroom design and peach truck are all registered trademarks of THE ABB MERCHANDISING CO., INC. whose rights are specifically reserved. Any artwork, visual, or audio representations used on this web site CONTAINING ANY REGISTERED TRADEMARKS are under license from The ABB MERCHANDISING CO., INC. A REVOCABLE, GRATIS LICENSE IS GRANTED TO ALL REGISTERED PEACH CORP MEMBERS FOR The DOWNLOADING OF ONE COPY FOR PERSONAL USE ONLY. ANY DISTRIBUTION OR REPRODUCTION OF THE TRADEMARKS CONTAINED HEREIN ARE PROHIBITED AND ARE SPECIFICALLY RESERVED BY THE ABB MERCHANDISING CO.,INC.
site by Hittin' the Web Group with www.experiencewasabi3d.com