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  posted on 4/10/2014 at 12:22 PM
He really seems like he does not want to let it go. Of course I assumed all along that was the case.

http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/crossfade/2014/04/allman-brothers_interview_ final_tour_wanee_2014.php

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  posted on 4/10/2014 at 12:39 PM
"It was sad that we had to cancel the last four shows at the Beacon because Gregg got very sick but the ten shows that we did play were some of the most fun shows I've ever played in my life." Not sure what to think of this.
 

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  posted on 4/10/2014 at 12:44 PM
shot at Dickey? check.
veiled shot at Gregg? check.
general crotchety-ness? check.

I'm pretty sure I could write a Butch Trucks interview at this point.

 

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  posted on 4/10/2014 at 12:45 PM
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It was sad that we had to cancel the last four shows at the Beacon


Hopefully he misspoke.

I have a feeling he didnt

 

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  posted on 4/10/2014 at 01:02 PM
Reminds me of the embarrassing grumpy old uncle....comes to every family party ready to say the wrong thing to someone,anyone-or everyone!

My sweet late mom told me once that a classical musician(trouble recalling name,possibly Brahms?with a b? Whatever)...he'd walk into a party,insult numerous people and while leaving he'd say,if there's anyone I neglected to insult,my deepest apologies,and I'll see you at the next party!

But,we love him anyway...he's part of he family,the original brotherhood warts and all,IMHO.

 

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  posted on 4/10/2014 at 01:12 PM
I may not like the gratuitous potshots at Dickey (though he at least left the name out here), but I appreciate his candor in his interviews. You know when he speaks that he is passing on what he really thinks. Beats the hell out of sugar-coating things.

I'm glad he and I are on the same page on the full-album show gimmick too.

 

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  posted on 4/10/2014 at 01:18 PM
"...As soon as the two of them made the announcement then Gregg said, 'Okay, then this is the end of the line for The Allman Brothers,' which he really doesn't have the power to do but whatever. ..."

Wow! The original member - the only one that bears the name - the only one who is an "Allman" "doesn't have the power" to call it a day? In my humblest opinion, the "Allman Brother's Band" sans Derek, Warren AND Gregg would basically be, "The Butch Trucks Band" (or the Jaimoe/Butch Combo)- regardless of who else they re-load with. I doubt seriously the band would or could continue in such a fashion and I laugh at Butch's insinuation that they'd do so. When it's time to go - go out gracefully!

 

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  posted on 4/10/2014 at 01:35 PM
He never does himself any favors with his interviews.
 

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  posted on 4/10/2014 at 01:48 PM
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shot at Dickey? check.


"If the shoe fits"

 

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  posted on 4/10/2014 at 02:05 PM
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"...As soon as the two of them made the announcement then Gregg said, 'Okay, then this is the end of the line for The Allman Brothers,' which he really doesn't have the power to do but whatever. ..."

Wow! The original member - the only one that bears the name - the only one who is an "Allman" "doesn't have the power" to call it a day? In my humblest opinion, the "Allman Brother's Band" sans Derek, Warren AND Gregg would basically be, "The Butch Trucks Band" (or the Jaimoe/Butch Combo)- regardless of who else they re-load with. I doubt seriously the band would or could continue in such a fashion and I laugh at Butch's insinuation that they'd do so. When it's time to go - go out gracefully!


Butch is replacing Jaimoe with Artimus Pyle

 

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  posted on 4/10/2014 at 02:12 PM
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"...As soon as the two of them made the announcement then Gregg said, 'Okay, then this is the end of the line for The Allman Brothers,' which he really doesn't have the power to do but whatever. ..."

Wow! The original member - the only one that bears the name - the only one who is an "Allman" "doesn't have the power" to call it a day? In my humblest opinion, the "Allman Brother's Band" sans Derek, Warren AND Gregg would basically be, "The Butch Trucks Band" (or the Jaimoe/Butch Combo)- regardless of who else they re-load with. I doubt seriously the band would or could continue in such a fashion and I laugh at Butch's insinuation that they'd do so. When it's time to go - go out gracefully!


I doubt any of us know the percentages inside the management company but I, too, pray that Butch doesn't exercise voting powers to coerce the formation of some shell of a band. Although he says he doesn't want a nostalgia act, it's pretty clear he's not ready to call it quits.

And that quote you referenced above is much more than a veiled shot at Gregg as someone else alluded to. It's an MX missile and suggests Gregg doesn't hold a majority of the business.

I hope this unfolds gracefully ---- Perception-wise, there's a very thin line between the Michael Jordan who made the championship winning shot with the Bulls and the one who limped his way out of a job with the Washington Wizards....

 

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  posted on 4/10/2014 at 02:20 PM
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"It was sad that we had to cancel the last four shows at the Beacon because Gregg got very sick but the ten shows that we did play were some of the most fun shows I've ever played in my life." Not sure what to think of this.

I'm going to vote "nothing." People are not always precise when they're speaking, and plenty of people here said cancel when they meant postpone. I would be very surprised if the band says they don't want the money from those last four shows. That's what canceling would mean.

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Wow! The original member - the only one that bears the name - the only one who is an "Allman" "doesn't have the power" to call it a day?

Butch and Jaimoe are original members, too, and like Gregg, they are partners in the band. I'm sure you don't think the Allman Brothers are Gregg's band alone. I think that's the gist of what Butch is saying here: personally and legally, this isn't Gregg's decision to make alone. Could they do it without him? No. Should he be making decisions about the band's future off the cuff and without a full consultation with everybody? No. And since communication between these guys is what it is, this is the kind of thing that happens. It's not hostile, but there's not much real planning.

 

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  posted on 4/10/2014 at 02:21 PM
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"It was sad that we had to cancel the last four shows at the Beacon because Gregg got very sick but the ten shows that we did play were some of the most fun shows I've ever played in my life." Not sure what to think of this.


sounds to me like he was upset they couldn't finish the run.
who wasn't upset? Doens't mean that he's mad at Gregg for getting sick.

It's clear that Butch doesn't like Dickey, and I guess if it was taken to a vote that he might have voted to continue the band w/o Warren and Derek, but I don't see anything as secret code for anything else, I don't think he says anything all that bad or earth shattering (although enough with Dickey stuff - that horse has been beaten and re beaten long after it has died) - he's just being honest.

 

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  posted on 4/10/2014 at 02:34 PM
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"It was sad that we had to cancel the last four shows at the Beacon because Gregg got very sick but the ten shows that we did play were some of the most fun shows I've ever played in my life."
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Butch played 9 shows.

 

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  posted on 4/10/2014 at 02:54 PM
Um Butch was out sick for one of those shows too, 3/11
 

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  posted on 4/10/2014 at 03:12 PM
Solution?

Gregg could simply invite Butch and Jaimoe to join the GAB.

 

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  posted on 4/10/2014 at 03:22 PM
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"It was sad that we had to cancel the last four shows at the Beacon because Gregg got very sick but the ten shows that we did play were some of the most fun shows I've ever played in my life." Not sure what to think of this.

I'm going to vote "nothing." People are not always precise when they're speaking, and plenty of people here said cancel when they meant postpone. I would be very surprised if the band says they don't want the money from those last four shows. That's what canceling would mean.

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Wow! The original member - the only one that bears the name - the only one who is an "Allman" "doesn't have the power" to call it a day?

Butch and Jaimoe are original members, too, and like Gregg, they are partners in the band. I'm sure you don't think the Allman Brothers are Gregg's band alone. I think that's the gist of what Butch is saying here: personally and legally, this isn't Gregg's decision to make alone. Could they do it without him? No. Should he be making decisions about the band's future off the cuff and without a full consultation with everybody? No. And since communication between these guys is what it is, this is the kind of thing that happens. It's not hostile, but there's not much real planning.


Exactly. Consulting others would be a good thing. But gregg says anything in an interview. He doesn't like them and never has. He learned all the R&R politician answers and gives them.

I said it after Derek and Warren's announcement and people got bent out of shape with emotions. understandable. But The ABB has made no comment or announcement and even if they had, they can always change their mind.

Gregg could play the Beacon with GAB or he could switch out drummers for a few weeks and do an ABB run. Far more money for the ABB. His band already plays ABB songs. The soloing cuts back a bit which Gregg wouldn't mind. Takes away the whole "who could replace them" saga. Some won't like it and will walk away as happened after Dickey's departure but the tickets will sell especially in NYC.

They will weigh all the options before acting which is probably a wise thing to do. But 3 weeks work as the ABB per year generates a rather nice pay cheque. Why walk away from that?

 

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  posted on 4/10/2014 at 04:05 PM
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"It was sad that we had to cancel the last four shows at the Beacon because Gregg got very sick but the ten shows that we did play were some of the most fun shows I've ever played in my life." Not sure what to think of this.

I'm going to vote "nothing." People are not always precise when they're speaking, and plenty of people here said cancel when they meant postpone. I would be very surprised if the band says they don't want the money from those last four shows. That's what canceling would mean.

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Wow! The original member - the only one that bears the name - the only one who is an "Allman" "doesn't have the power" to call it a day?

Butch and Jaimoe are original members, too, and like Gregg, they are partners in the band. I'm sure you don't think the Allman Brothers are Gregg's band alone. I think that's the gist of what Butch is saying here: personally and legally, this isn't Gregg's decision to make alone. Could they do it without him? No. Should he be making decisions about the band's future off the cuff and without a full consultation with everybody? No. And since communication between these guys is what it is, this is the kind of thing that happens. It's not hostile, but there's not much real planning.


I get all that stuff. The Allman Brother's Band (or, ABB) is also Derek and Warren's band too - at least at this point. Some folks - certain fans will argue that the "watering down process" has been in effect since Duane's death. The grumbling (among the most long-time, die-hards) got a little worse with Berry's passing and certainly got louder with Dickie's exit. As stated in so many different ways on so many other occasions, it took a while for the current version of the band (quite possibly the finest line-up of the band ever) to take with a lot of fans. A new version - new guitarists and bassist(?) with Gregg on-board will be a test to the fanbase. It's one thing to play a couple of shows billed as "The Allman Brother's Band" with Gregg out due to illness. I saw one of those shows and it was certainly acceptable. But to bill a tour or record an album billed as such without him? I've got two words: club dates.

 

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  posted on 4/10/2014 at 04:10 PM
I dont know why more reporters dont seek Butch out for interviews. There is so much there for followups . If i was covering festivals I would try to get him to talk after each gig. As someone else said, at least he speaks his mind. i would love to hear him elaborate on how he was the Wanee brainchild or how life in the south of France is for a "redneck".

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  posted on 4/10/2014 at 05:07 PM
This is pretty much how I expected it went down. I figured Butch would be the most reticent to let it go.

Everyone else, even Jaimoe, has another band that is a source of income except Butch. Since most humans can't tolerate being in his presence, the thought of him joining another band or restarting Frogwings or something seems like a long shot. Also, without piling on too much, let's just say Butch hasn't managed his money as well as he could have.

Butch may have a point about Gregg summarily deciding to end the ABB after Warren and Derek decided to leave, but guess what? Nobody is going to see "the Allman Brothers Band starring Butch Trucks" without Gregg Allman OR Derek OR Warren. The very idea of Butch carrying on the band without Gregg is absurd on its face.

Even though I hate the idea, I will admit CanadianMule has a point that Gregg probably COULD get away with it. However, that would require a lot more work than I think Gregg is willing to put in.

I also think CanadianMule is selling short the difference between Gregg and Friends and the Allman Brothers Band. The reason his solo band is so different in sound and tone from the ABB is that, deep down inside, Gregg isn't that into the long jams and "bombastic" solos of the ABB.

Frankly, I think Gregg is ready to be done with the whole ABB thing and focus on the music he actually enjoys playing and singing.

 
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  posted on 4/10/2014 at 05:29 PM
A side point about Gregg announcing that the band is finished: since he will continue getting money for his songwriting and is probably a much bigger draw on his own than either of them would be. So from Butch's standpoint, Gregg may have been kind of casual in "retiring" a bunch of his income when he wasn't going to have to pay the same price. I'm sure all of these guys have enough money, but that's not the most tactful way to handle a business decision.
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I get all that stuff. The Allman Brother's Band (or, ABB) is also Derek and Warren's band too - at least at this point.

It depends on how you mean. I've said the band needs Warren and Derek and Oteil to maintain its credibility because they've been the chief reason the band is still musically interesting without new material. They're not founders of the band and I don't think they are partners in the business. (Maybe Warren is- I don't remember.) But they know their place in the history of the band and these days they talk a lot about their role in the band as an institution. To them it's Duane's band, along with the rest of the original six, and they've long said they think it's important to honor that tradition and stay true to it. They have to keep it fresh and good, but it's not theirs to reinvent. And the fact that they're leaving and we're still not REALLY sure if the band is finished does say something about who makes the biggest calls.
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Some folks - certain fans will argue that the "watering down process" has been in effect since Duane's death.

Yes, they would. The band has gone through tons of changes and everybody has their preferences. Not everybody bought into every incarnation of the band, which is their prerogative. But I think this is a bit different. They've never lost this much of the band at once, and it's never been for this reason. Other people may see it differently. Should they keep touring under the ABB name, I'll be elsewhere.

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Frankly, I think Gregg is ready to be done with the whole ABB thing and focus on the music he actually enjoys playing and singing.

I've felt for the last few years that the band is just too loud for Gregg. He can sing over his quieter ensemble, but projecting over the ABB is really too hard for him at this stage.

 

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  posted on 4/10/2014 at 05:57 PM
I fully admit that it would sound different. As I said, less bombastic solos that are 10 minutes long for starters which gregg admits to not liking much. A more song orientated band.

But each era of the band has had its' own sound. So no difference there really.

 

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  posted on 4/10/2014 at 07:00 PM
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shot at Dickey? check.
veiled shot at Gregg? check.
general crotchety-ness? check.

Shocking the "Salami Story" didn't get another re-telling.



If Butch ain't about calling it a day or being no oldies act he should get some jamband flunkies, drop those pesky oldies from the set & go out as - Brother Butch's Allnew Allman's Revue.

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1. Blind Willie McTell (Dylan / Band cover)
2. Bag End> Bu (drum solo)> Egypt
3. Into The Mystic (Van Morrison cover)

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  posted on 4/10/2014 at 07:07 PM
Some pretty good perspective in this thread. I'll add my 2 cents.

Putting legal matters aside & the concept of founding members, Gregg is the remaining namesake and a draw unto himself. I love Jaimoe's Band musically, but I doubt they can draw or sell tickets anywhere near GAB. Gregg can and will still tour and sell decent venues. As far as Butch - he'd have to put together some sort of allstar band like Ringo does in order to draw a decent crowd. Not to diss on him, but I don't think he's really done any band projects since Frogwings. If I'm wrong, then I stand corrected.

After all that's gone down and after 40 plus years, I can't see the original 3 + whoever doing dates or a tour. There might very well be some dates with the current lineup, and it'd sell well. Beyond that Derek, Warren, and Oteil appear to have moved on. And Marc played the most recent leg of GAB tour - don't know if that'll continue, but he's a good fit, and Gregg has always enjoyed percussion in his bands.

 

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  posted on 4/10/2014 at 07:44 PM
More analyzing, re-analyzing and over-analyzing of a situation that's been beaten to death. Everybody here has an opinion - just like Butch. People here speak freely - just like Butch. At this point I don't care what Butch says or does, it doesn't change my opinion one bit on how I feel about him or the rest band. He doesn't like Dickey and he lets us know all the time, so what? At least he's honest and insightful. The ABB is not about relationships - at least not in the traditional sense, it's about the music. This isn't a reality show - it's about music that's real. It's not tabloids, it's tablature. Always was, always will be. God Bless Butch and Gregg and Jaimoe and all the rest of them. Play your stuff and speak your mind guys - you've earned it. It's been a fun ride, every damn bit of it. I miss it already.

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