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  posted on 3/15/2014 at 07:54 PM
Anyone have any of them? Any recommendations?
 
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  posted on 3/15/2014 at 09:20 PM
I have all 10 and each has its merits. The sound quality is rough sometimes but not enough to be a deterrent. There is no information about venues or dates. Sometimes you can tell the era by the personnel listed. I asked Johnny's manager/producer/guitarist Paul Nelson about the lack of recording information and he was quite indifferent about it. He didn't feel he needed to provide it. He had a "you figure it out" kind of attitude. Being a live show collector I really want to know what years at least. Obviously it didn't stop me but in my view it's black mark on the whole series.

However, they're all pretty good and Johnny's playing is great on each one. It all depends on what songs you like. I love "Highway 61 Revisited" and had to wait until Volume 3 which also includes a 15 minute "I Smell Trouble" which is stellar. I could listen to Johnny play anything though (as long he includes Highway 61!). Sorry I don't have a specific recommendation for you but hopefully the information will help you.

 

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  posted on 3/15/2014 at 10:17 PM
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I have all 10 and each has its merits. The sound quality is rough sometimes but not enough to be a deterrent. There is no information about venues or dates. Sometimes you can tell the era by the personnel listed. I asked Johnny's manager/producer/guitarist Paul Nelson about the lack of recording information and he was quite indifferent about it. He didn't feel he needed to provide it. He had a "you figure it out" kind of attitude. Being a live show collector I really want to know what years at least. Obviously it didn't stop me but in my view it's black mark on the whole series.

However, they're all pretty good and Johnny's playing is great on each one. It all depends on what songs you like. I love "Highway 61 Revisited" and had to wait until Volume 3 which also includes a 15 minute "I Smell Trouble" which is stellar. I could listen to Johnny play anything though (as long he includes Highway 61!). Sorry I don't have a specific recommendation for you but hopefully the information will help you.


thank you. I notice one of them has pretty much the exact same tracks as the live in nyc set from the late 90s. I'll probably skip that one. Which set had the most slide work? Are there any acoustic songs on any of them?

 

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  posted on 3/15/2014 at 10:59 PM
There are a few acoustic tracks, I'll have to see which ones and get back to you.

 

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  posted on 3/16/2014 at 08:29 AM
Johnny's in my area this Thursday, I have second row tickets.

It should be amazing, and a nice conclusion to a three nights of music; I'm seeing doing the 18 & 19th Beacon shows then racing back to see JW on the 20th.



I plan to check out this bootleg series...I wasn't even aware of it.

 

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  posted on 3/16/2014 at 08:36 AM
Thanks for the info...was not aware of this!
 
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  posted on 3/16/2014 at 11:46 AM
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There are a few acoustic tracks, I'll have to see which ones and get back to you.


thanks. the tracklisting for volumes 1-5 look pretty exciting. vol 6 is the one with the tracklisting almost the same as the LIVE IN NYC 1997 release from the late 90's. after that 7-10 the tracklisting is up and down on each one. i heard from others that vol 5 had the roughest sound

 

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  posted on 3/16/2014 at 12:50 PM
I just recently purchased the career spanning 4 disc box set called True To The Blues The Johnny Winter Story.
I didn't really have much Johnny Winter except a few shows I've downloaded over the years.

This set has a little bit of everything from studio tracks to several live tracks from the Fillmore East 1968 ,Woodstock, Isle of Wight And a couple of never officially released tracks from the 1970 Atlanta Pop Festival and a few other live tracks from various places.
It ends nicely with Dust My Broom w/Derek Trucks adding some tasty slide work.

There is only one track Stranger Blues from the Live Bootleg Series vol.3 but it gives the date as late 80's location unknown.

 

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  posted on 3/16/2014 at 01:08 PM
Volume 1 - late 70's with Jon Paris & Bobby Torello
Volume 2 - late 70's with Jon Paris & Bobby Torello
Volume 3 - mid 80's / early 90's with Jon Paris & Tom Compton; solo acoustic Stones In My Passway
Volume 4 - mid 80's / early 90's with Jon Paris & Tom Compton; solo acoustic Rollin' And Tumblin'
Volume 5 - late 70's / early 80's with Jon Paris & Bobby Torello
Volume 6 - mid 90's with Jeff Ganz & Tom Compton
Volume 7 - early to mid 90's with Jon Paris, Jeff Ganz & Tom Compton (Warren Haynes wrote liner notes for this one)
Volume 8 - only Johnny is credited but the tracks are full electric band performances
Volume 9 - only Johnny is credited but the tracks are full electric band performances

I can't find my copy of Volume 10 at the moment but I seem to remember it being all electric.

 

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  posted on 3/16/2014 at 02:32 PM
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I just recently purchased the career spanning 4 disc box set called True To The Blues The Johnny Winter Story.
I didn't really have much Johnny Winter except a few shows I've downloaded over the years.

This set has a little bit of everything from studio tracks to several live tracks from the Fillmore East 1968 ,Woodstock, Isle of Wight And a couple of never officially released tracks from the 1970 Atlanta Pop Festival and a few other live tracks from various places.
It ends nicely with Dust My Broom w/Derek Trucks adding some tasty slide work.

There is only one track Stranger Blues from the Live Bootleg Series vol.3 but it gives the date as late 80's location unknown.


i got the boxset too because i didn't have some if winters releases and wanted a lot of the stuff that wasn't released previously on johnny winter albums like the song at the dylan tribute concert. here are my thoughts on the boxset.
pros
- it covers johnny's career from 1968-2014
- it contains a lot of live material. thats great because winter was known as a live performer. overall it has 18 live performances.
-the bulk of the 4 cd set covers 1968-1979 which are his prime years. basically 3 of the 4 cd's cover his best years.
-it includes 2 unreleased live songs from the atlanta pop festival
- if you didn't purchased any of the expanded re-releases of his older albums or appearances on other artists releases you get a good selection of stuff like that such as his appearance at the dylan tribute concert in the early 90's, a tune from woodstock, his appearance with mike bloomfield and al kooper and the fillmore east, etc.
- the cd's sound great
- the booklet is very nice with lots of pictures and quotes from famous musicians giving praise to winter


now the cons
-nothing pre 1968
-each disc is a little less than 70 minutes so actually you could fit 4 more songs on the set as long as they are all about 5 minutes. each disc should have been about 75 minutes
- nothing from the albums LIVE IN NYC 1997, I'M A BLUESMAN or WINTER OF 88 although they use a live version of "stranger blues" to represent WINTER OF 88
-not a lot of unreleased material. only 2 songs on here are unreleased. i know there is more in the vaults
- even though the best stuff he released was from 1968-1979 maybe 3 discs was a bit overkill because its hard to fit highlights from 1980-2014 on 1 disc. maybe this should have been 5 cd's.
- missing a lot of essential stuff in any version like "rollin and tumblin'", "silver train", "it's all over now (live)", the rock n roll medley from the live album TOGETHER with his brother, "messing with the kid", "like a rolling stone", "it's my life baby" and "johnny guitar"
-with some essential cuts missing its hard to explain the reasoning they included 2 live versions of "it's my own fault", and a live and studio version of "mean mistreater", "highway 61 revisited" and "mean town blues". with limited space and a lot of ground to cover whoever picked the songs should have only included 1 version of these songs.
-no dvd of highlights throught his career or a documentary

 

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  posted on 3/16/2014 at 02:32 PM
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Volume 1 - late 70's with Jon Paris & Bobby Torello
Volume 2 - late 70's with Jon Paris & Bobby Torello
Volume 3 - mid 80's / early 90's with Jon Paris & Tom Compton; solo acoustic Stones In My Passway
Volume 4 - mid 80's / early 90's with Jon Paris & Tom Compton; solo acoustic Rollin' And Tumblin'
Volume 5 - late 70's / early 80's with Jon Paris & Bobby Torello
Volume 6 - mid 90's with Jeff Ganz & Tom Compton
Volume 7 - early to mid 90's with Jon Paris, Jeff Ganz & Tom Compton (Warren Haynes wrote liner notes for this one)
Volume 8 - only Johnny is credited but the tracks are full electric band performances
Volume 9 - only Johnny is credited but the tracks are full electric band performances

I can't find my copy of Volume 10 at the moment but I seem to remember it being all electric.


thanks. is vol 3 your favorite?

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  posted on 3/16/2014 at 08:45 PM
I don't really have a favorite but 1, 3, 4 and 7 are probably the ones I listen to most.

 

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  posted on 3/16/2014 at 10:19 PM
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I don't really have a favorite but 1, 3, 4 and 7 are probably the ones I listen to most.


thanks. the ones you listed look like they will be the ones i listen to the most or at least get first based off of the tracklisting

 

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  posted on 3/18/2014 at 06:28 PM
On a related note, saw Johnny live recently and his playing was fluid and fiery while he was more than a little animated introducing songs etc....He is definitely in much better shape than a few years ago so even hitting 70 years old his future is bright!..
 

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  posted on 3/18/2014 at 06:34 PM
I've seen him a few times in recent years and he hobbles out to the stage. You think he's going to fall over, but he sits down, picks up his guitar and lets it rip. It's amazing. He's like Yoda. Underestimate Johnny you should not.

 

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