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  posted on 3/14/2014 at 01:26 PM
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HOUSTON—A father fatally shot a teen boy he found in his daughter's bedroom early Thursday morning, deputies said.

Investigators said the father accused in the shooting woke up to find the male teen in his 16-year-old daughter's bedroom.

According to detectives, the 16-year-old daughter let the 17-year-old boy into the house and then sneaked him into her bedroom.

Her younger brother went to say good night and saw two feet sticking out under the bed, detectives said. He then went to get his father.

The father walked in and asked questions, but his daughter claimed to not to know the male teen. The father then called 911, but an argument ensued with the teenage boy.

The father told police the boy dropped his hands as if to grab something, so he opened fire. The teen died at the scene.

No other injuries were reported, but the father was transported to the hospital to be checked out for medical reasons as he complained that he was not feeling well. Constables said the man appeared to be on several medications.

Neighbors of the family were stunned.

"Oh my God! They just moved in…about a week ago. They just moved in here," one neighbor said. "No, never spoke to them. Never even seen them. I saw the moving trucks, but I never heard a peep out of them."

Charges had not been filed Thursday. When the investigation is completed, the findings will be presented to the Harris County Grand Jury for consideration.

 
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  posted on 3/15/2014 at 02:30 PM
Not sure how this will end; father made the mistake of not living in Florida
 

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Not sure how this will end; father made the mistake of not living in Florida


Not sure either, but this assh*le had better go to prison for a long time. Poor innocent little daughter, eh? Just wanted to get some action, but "claimed to not know the male teen".

[Edited on 3/15/2014 by robslob]

 

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Not sure either, but this assh*le had better go to prison for a long time. Poor innocent little daughter, eh? Just wanted to get some action, but "claimed to not know the male teen".

[Edited on 3/15/2014 by robslob]


Why? Do you know something about this case not brought out in the article?

 

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Not sure either, but this assh*le had better go to prison for a long time. Poor innocent little daughter, eh? Just wanted to get some action, but "claimed to not know the male teen".

[Edited on 3/15/2014 by robslob]


Why? Do you know something about this case not brought out in the article?


Did YOU read the article? Or maybe I should ask, do you bother to read something before posting asinine remarks? Below is a quote from the article:

quote:

According to detectives, the 16-year-old daughter let the 17-year-old boy into the house and then sneaked him into her bedroom.

 

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  posted on 3/16/2014 at 03:11 PM
Awful story. That father needs to pay the price. What a tragedy for both families.
 

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  posted on 3/16/2014 at 04:44 PM
Dad should go away for a long time.

It's Texas, however, so he probably won't.

 

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  posted on 3/18/2014 at 08:55 PM
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Not sure either, but this assh*le had better go to prison for a long time. Poor innocent little daughter, eh? Just wanted to get some action, but "claimed to not know the male teen".

[Edited on 3/15/2014 by robslob]


Why? Do you know something about this case not brought out in the article?


Did YOU read the article? Or maybe I should ask, do you bother to read something before posting asinine remarks? Below is a quote from the article:

quote:

According to detectives, the 16-year-old daughter let the 17-year-old boy into the house and then sneaked him into her bedroom.




Since, obviously your misguided brain couldn't comprehend what I posted, I'll put it in plain simple language.

What do you know about the case that wasn't in the article that makes you believe "this **** had better go to prison for a long time"?

Clear enough for you, or should I not use multisyllable words?

 

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  posted on 3/19/2014 at 07:09 AM
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Not sure either, but this assh*le had better go to prison for a long time. Poor innocent little daughter, eh? Just wanted to get some action, but "claimed to not know the male teen".

[Edited on 3/15/2014 by robslob]


Why? Do you know something about this case not brought out in the article?


Did YOU read the article? Or maybe I should ask, do you bother to read something before posting asinine remarks? Below is a quote from the article:

quote:

According to detectives, the 16-year-old daughter let the 17-year-old boy into the house and then sneaked him into her bedroom.




Since, obviously your misguided brain couldn't comprehend what I posted, I'll put it in plain simple language.

What do you know about the case that wasn't in the article that makes you believe "this **** had better go to prison for a long time"?

Clear enough for you, or should I not use multisyllable words?

What do you know about the case that wasn't in the article that makes you believe he should NOT go to jail for a long time?

 

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  posted on 3/19/2014 at 07:55 AM

another (probably drunk) moron with no gun training.

 

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no gun training? He hit what he was aiming at, didn't he? What does this have to do with gun training? Gun training doesn't train you not to be a stupid piece of crap. Oh I get it, let's ignore the subject and turn the whole thing into a debate on gun training and the right to bear arms. Every time a shooting is mentioned here that's what happens.


 

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  posted on 3/19/2014 at 09:24 PM
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Not sure either, but this assh*le had better go to prison for a long time. Poor innocent little daughter, eh? Just wanted to get some action, but "claimed to not know the male teen".

[Edited on 3/15/2014 by robslob]


Why? Do you know something about this case not brought out in the article?


Did YOU read the article? Or maybe I should ask, do you bother to read something before posting asinine remarks? Below is a quote from the article:

quote:

According to detectives, the 16-year-old daughter let the 17-year-old boy into the house and then sneaked him into her bedroom.




Since, obviously your misguided brain couldn't comprehend what I posted, I'll put it in plain simple language.

What do you know about the case that wasn't in the article that makes you believe "this **** had better go to prison for a long time"?

Clear enough for you, or should I not use multisyllable words?

What do you know about the case that wasn't in the article that makes you believe he should NOT go to jail for a long time?



This makes me believe that YOU didn't either read the article, or watch the video.

 

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  posted on 3/20/2014 at 12:10 AM
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Not sure either, but this assh*le had better go to prison for a long time. Poor innocent little daughter, eh? Just wanted to get some action, but "claimed to not know the male teen".

[Edited on 3/15/2014 by robslob]


Why? Do you know something about this case not brought out in the article?


Did YOU read the article? Or maybe I should ask, do you bother to read something before posting asinine remarks? Below is a quote from the article:

quote:

According to detectives, the 16-year-old daughter let the 17-year-old boy into the house and then sneaked him into her bedroom.




Since, obviously your misguided brain couldn't comprehend what I posted, I'll put it in plain simple language.

What do you know about the case that wasn't in the article that makes you believe "this **** had better go to prison for a long time"?

Clear enough for you, or should I not use multisyllable words?

What do you know about the case that wasn't in the article that makes you believe he should NOT go to jail for a long time?



This makes me believe that YOU didn't either read the article, or watch the video.


So, if your unarmed son was killed when he was invited into his girlfriends bedroom, you'd be ok with it? You don't think they guy should go to jail? Two families will never be the same, but hey, mistakes happen?

 

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  posted on 3/20/2014 at 01:33 AM
Unless I am missing something, wby wouldn't you shoot someone you find (and sounded like was hiding under her bed) who is a unknown intruder. Especially after calling the cops and having been told by your child that this is an unknown intruder. Reaching down for something at the time. It's easy to look back and say don't shoot now that we now the daughter lied, but dad has a gun. Was woken up by a younger child who says he saw someone hiding in house. No one's knows him. Sounds like he was protecting his family. If the daughter is watching dad with a gun this guy and and claims to still not know him, I am guessq he belived her. Why should he go to jail for shooting someone in his home in the middle of the night that nobody knows? Because his daughter lied? He was hiding under in bed not in her bed. After he is dead the truth is revealed she knew him. It sounds like sometime transpired if he called the cops she had some time to tell the truth. If the daughter was telling the truth (and really didn't know him) should he be in jail for shooting someone found hiding in his daughter bedroom in the middle of the night?

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I just read these articles:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/13/father-shoots-teen_n_4959409.html? ir=Crime
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/03/13/texas-dad-guns-down-teen-boy-after-da ughter-invites-him-into-her-bedroom/
http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Dad-accused-of-kill ing-teen-found-in-daughter-s-5313696.php
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cops-dad-fatally-shoots-boy-in-teen-daughters-b edroom/
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/03/14/dad-shoots-teen-daught ers-room/6410143/

Look at the facts.. theres an intruder in your daughters room, an intruder that she apparently, according to several articles, adamantly denied knowing, the kid made a sudden movement that the father thought was aggressive and he acted accordingly. The question here is not weather the teen deserved it. It is was that father in the right. It's not like young people are not capable of bad things. There is a case where two twin's are both being charged with rape at a university near my home. There are kids younger than me that
have done horrible things. It's not like the guy busted into the room, guns blazing, shoot first ask questions later. His daughter denied knowing the kid, and usually a daughter would know weather or not her dad had a gun, and if he was capable or willing to use it. She lied to him, and he acted on the information presented to him. He called 911, which is probably what any person in that situation would do, gun toting citizen or not. The young man and the father got into an argument and the young man apparently made a sudden movement that the father felt threatened by. These are the facts as they have been presented by the three articles I listed at the beginning. It's easy to look back and say what he should have done now because we now know that the young man was not a threat, but the father did not know that. All he knew, was that there was an unknown person in his daughter's room at 2:30 a.m. and he acted in a manner that the father perceived as threatening. He didn't shoot a kid, or his daughter's boyfriend, he shot an intruder in his house that he thought was going to do harm to his family. Based on these facts, and Texas law, the father probably will not even be charged.

 

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Not sure how this will end; father made the mistake of not living in Florida

ahahaha

 

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  posted on 3/20/2014 at 10:33 AM
It's certainly a tricky case since the teen was in the home. His daughter lying is another complicated layer. I believe he should and will be charged since the teen was unarmed and invited into the house by the daughter. There is no evidence of breaking and entering. Charges get filed after detectives gather evidence, and unfortunately for the father, his daughter's lie is evidence that could incriminate him. Regardless of the law, this will be up to a jury if he is charged.
 

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  posted on 3/20/2014 at 11:28 AM
The moral of the story is that if you are a teenage sneaking into your girlfriend's bedroom, make sure her father isn't a gun owner.

 

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  posted on 3/20/2014 at 11:53 AM
some folks will try and shoot a stray dog on sight if it crosses into their yard,
other people are happy to just scare it off.

It doesnt matter if its a dog or man there to some gun owners.

 

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some folks will try and shoot a stray dog on sight if it crosses into their yard,
other people are happy to just scare it off.

It doesnt matter if its a dog or man there to some gun owners.



your post is very offending and in very poor taste, who are these some folks? you have decided for yourself that some gun owners are just waiting for a chance to shoot someone.... how irresponsible of you are you a mind reader? do you have telepathic powers? post who these gun owners are that just can not wait to shoot either a dog or a man.... Geeze!

 

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I just read these articles:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/13/father-shoots-teen_n_4959409.html? ir=Crime
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/03/13/texas-dad-guns-down-teen-boy-after-da ughter-invites-him-into-her-bedroom/
http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Dad-accused-of-kill ing-teen-found-in-daughter-s-5313696.php
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cops-dad-fatally-shoots-boy-in-teen-daughters-b edroom/
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/03/14/dad-shoots-teen-daught ers-room/6410143/

Look at the facts.. theres an intruder in your daughters room, an intruder that she apparently, according to several articles, adamantly denied knowing, the kid made a sudden movement that the father thought was aggressive and he acted accordingly. The question here is not weather the teen deserved it. It is was that father in the right. It's not like young people are not capable of bad things. There is a case where two twin's are both being charged with rape at a university near my home. There are kids younger than me that
have done horrible things. It's not like the guy busted into the room, guns blazing, shoot first ask questions later. His daughter denied knowing the kid, and usually a daughter would know weather or not her dad had a gun, and if he was capable or willing to use it. She lied to him, and he acted on the information presented to him. He called 911, which is probably what any person in that situation would do, gun toting citizen or not. The young man and the father got into an argument and the young man apparently made a sudden movement that the father felt threatened by. These are the facts as they have been presented by the three articles I listed at the beginning. It's easy to look back and say what he should have done now because we now know that the young man was not a threat, but the father did not know that. All he knew, was that there was an unknown person in his daughter's room at 2:30 a.m. and he acted in a manner that the father perceived as threatening. He didn't shoot a kid, or his daughter's boyfriend, he shot an intruder in his house that he thought was going to do harm to his family. Based on these facts, and Texas law, the father probably will not even be charged.


After further thought after looking t the facts, and given the fact that juries never seem to find people guilty of murder anymore, I agree that the guy will not be spending any time in jail.

However, he most certainly will be held responsible for the wrongful death of the boy in a civil trial and will lose everything he owns. Simply put, even if HE didn't act irresponsibly, his daughter, who he is legally responsible for, did by lying. This was a needless death and it was clearly caused, anyway you look at it, by the father/daughter combination.

 

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  posted on 3/20/2014 at 05:14 PM
This exact same thing happened to me in high school when I was caught screwing around with a girlfriend in her room by her father who had just returned from work. Luckily he only shoved the barrel of the gun into my chin, threatened to pull the trigger and then slammed the butt end into the side of my head. He then told me to get out and I didn't hesitate bolting out of that house and running full speed up the road with my shoes in hand in a foot of snow. Learned my lesson although for months I had thoughts of ambushing the bastard with a baseball bat.

As far as this case goes I think the daughter and father are both to blame. The daughter should go to jail for juveniles and the father should do some time as well. He is responsible for the kids death. If you own a gun and take it out and use it on someone other than a criminal and wound or kill them you are responsible whether you thought they were a criminal or not. If you are gonna own a gun and shoot first and ask later then you have to dael with the aftermath if you shoot an innocent. Being a gun owner is a huge responsability and if you are gonna use one you one you had better be sure you are shooting a bad guy or you will and should be held accountable.

 

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I just read these articles:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/13/father-shoots-teen_n_4959409.html? ir=Crime
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/03/13/texas-dad-guns-down-teen-boy-after-da ughter-invites-him-into-her-bedroom/
http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Dad-accused-of-kill ing-teen-found-in-daughter-s-5313696.php
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cops-dad-fatally-shoots-boy-in-teen-daughters-b edroom/
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/03/14/dad-shoots-teen-daught ers-room/6410143/

Look at the facts.. theres an intruder in your daughters room, an intruder that she apparently, according to several articles, adamantly denied knowing, the kid made a sudden movement that the father thought was aggressive and he acted accordingly. The question here is not weather the teen deserved it. It is was that father in the right. It's not like young people are not capable of bad things. There is a case where two twin's are both being charged with rape at a university near my home. There are kids younger than me that
have done horrible things. It's not like the guy busted into the room, guns blazing, shoot first ask questions later. His daughter denied knowing the kid, and usually a daughter would know weather or not her dad had a gun, and if he was capable or willing to use it. She lied to him, and he acted on the information presented to him. He called 911, which is probably what any person in that situation would do, gun toting citizen or not. The young man and the father got into an argument and the young man apparently made a sudden movement that the father felt threatened by. These are the facts as they have been presented by the three articles I listed at the beginning. It's easy to look back and say what he should have done now because we now know that the young man was not a threat, but the father did not know that. All he knew, was that there was an unknown person in his daughter's room at 2:30 a.m. and he acted in a manner that the father perceived as threatening. He didn't shoot a kid, or his daughter's boyfriend, he shot an intruder in his house that he thought was going to do harm to his family. Based on these facts, and Texas law, the father probably will not even be charged.


After further thought after looking t the facts, and given the fact that juries never seem to find people guilty of murder anymore, I agree that the guy will not be spending any time in jail.

However, he most certainly will be held responsible for the wrongful death of the boy in a civil trial and will lose everything he owns. Simply put, even if HE didn't act irresponsibly, his daughter, who he is legally responsible for, did by lying. This was a needless death and it was clearly caused, anyway you look at it, by the father/daughter combination.



Maybe, I couldn't really reply to what might happen in a civil trial. I do know that the burden of proof is much lower in a civil trial vs. a criminal trial. People will undoubtedly hold him responsible for the death of the young man, and some will not.

 

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This exact same thing happened to me in high school when I was caught screwing around with a girlfriend in her room by her father who had just returned from work. Luckily he only shoved the barrel of the gun into my chin, threatened to pull the trigger and then slammed the butt end into the side of my head. He then told me to get out and I didn't hesitate bolting out of that house and running full speed up the road with my shoes in hand in a foot of snow. Learned my lesson although for months I had thoughts of ambushing the bastard with a baseball bat.

As far as this case goes I think the daughter and father are both to blame. The daughter should go to jail for juveniles and the father should do some time as well. He is responsible for the kids death. If you own a gun and take it out and use it on someone other than a criminal and wound or kill them you are responsible whether you thought they were a criminal or not. If you are gonna own a gun and shoot first and ask later then you have to dael with the aftermath if you shoot an innocent. Being a gun owner is a huge responsability and if you are gonna use one you one you had better be sure you are shooting a bad guy or you will and should be held accountable.


How was he to know the kid wasn't a criminal?

 

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  posted on 3/20/2014 at 08:49 PM
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How was he to know the kid wasn't a criminal?

He didn't. He did know that a young man was in his daughter's room at 2:30 in the morning, that she did not know him, and he made what he considered an aggressive move.

 
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