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  posted on 1/31/2014 at 08:18 PM
at least he's playing a Strat… and it's Andy Williams.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKIFrPn0m4c

 

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  posted on 1/31/2014 at 09:02 PM
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at least he's playing a Strat… and it's Andy Williams.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKIFrPn0m4c



With all love and respect. Clapton is the real thing a huge influence on many. He's gone through so many styles of music and excels at whatever project he lays forth. If you don't like the fact he doesn't take endless solos he has stated that he did that and he wants to play "song" not just jam. Not that he doesn't still stretch it out some. It just not like Cream.

Moon River....he has an appreciation for so much music...it's all good

 

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  posted on 1/31/2014 at 09:16 PM
Clapton is God.

 

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  posted on 1/31/2014 at 09:18 PM
Eric Clapton has certainly gone through a couple of phases in his career that left folks scratching their heads. I saw the "461 Ocean Blvd tour" (1974 (I think) Birmingham Legion Field) - the single biggest concert disappointment of my life. He came out apparently soused, hugging the mic stand all night while allowing George Terry to play virtually every bit of lead guitar.

Then there was the period where he very nearly became Phil Collins. I think Jeff Beck even threw a couple of media jabs at him over playing tunes like "Somewhere Over the Rainbow".

But as Derek Trucks pointed out while touring as part of his band, "he's Eric Clapton. He's got it in his pocket all the time ...".

Indeed, it might have been Derek's (and Doyle Bramhall) inspiration that brought him back to the world of serious guitar playing.

Say anything you want to about him, but he's been the inspiration and fire to generations of guitar players. If it weren't for him (and Mayall) the blues might have just died due to to lack of interest in 1960.

He most certainly does not suck. I just wish I knew 5% of anything he might have forgotten over the years.

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  posted on 1/31/2014 at 09:20 PM
With all due respect to Clapton, I don't see how an ABB fan can see him as a better guitar player than Duane, Dickey, Warren, or Derek. It's just my opinion, but all of those guys would blow him off the stage at their peak.

We've really been spoiled as fans by the band having so many great guitar players.

 
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  posted on 1/31/2014 at 10:03 PM
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With all due respect to Clapton, I don't see how an ABB fan can see him as a better guitar player than Duane, Dickey, Warren, or Derek. It's just my opinion, but all of those guys would blow him off the stage at their peak.



Maybe they would, but without Clapton, there would be no Duane, Dickey, Warren, or Derek, for sure we wouldn't be talking about them.

 

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  posted on 1/31/2014 at 10:13 PM
IMHO,EC is one of the greatest guitarists ever.All a matter of taste,and with all respect to Derek or Warren but I heard EC as the most capable and tasteful of the three of them in 2009.Yes,many will differ,but one opinion is no better than another.And,if you think EC sucks I respectfully differ,but you are entitled to an opinion!

As for EC's resurgence,I agree that playing with Derek and Doyle was huge,but the resurgence really began with the Cream reunion(brief) tour.There have been lots of ups and downs in his work but EC has some of the sweetest bluesiest licks I've ever heard.

 

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  posted on 2/1/2014 at 08:54 AM
I was just going to start a new post regarding Clapton playing with ABB and how it seems like such a perfect fit. Some of my favorite live ABB tunes are with Clapton. My all time favorite live ABB song - 3/20/09 Liz Reed with Clapton. Just magical. Then I just received my 2013 Clapton's Crossroads DVDs this week and there is a wonderful version of "Why does love got to be so sad" with ABB and Clapton. Watching Derek, Warren and Eric play together is a real delight. It is so fluid it seems like they play together all the time. Of course watching the DVD just gets me soooo fired up for the Beacon. Wishing my life away.
 

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  posted on 2/1/2014 at 09:40 AM
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With all due respect to Clapton, I don't see how an ABB fan can see him as a better guitar player than Duane, Dickey, Warren, or Derek. It's just my opinion, but all of those guys would blow him off the stage at their peak.

We've really been spoiled as fans by the band having so many great guitar players.


LOL. Hmm. All of those players have given major props to Clapton. Whatever, it is an ABB site.

Here's Clapton laying out a killer solo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjRI8LXChus

 

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  posted on 2/1/2014 at 09:45 AM
I appreciate all phases of his career. Including the "Phil Collins" years. There's some really good sheet there if given a chance, but it was the 80's which wasn't overly kind to a lot of rockers.

The only two albums I don't give much love to are his sterile "Pilgrim" album and the god awful "Back Home"

after that, from the Yardbirds up to "Old Sock" there is a lot of variation to pick and choose from

Hell, the one condition Hendrix gave Chas Chandler for him to up and go to London in '66, was that he meet and or play with Clapton. Condition met and we know how that all turned out.

 

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  posted on 2/1/2014 at 09:52 AM
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With all due respect to Clapton, I don't see how an ABB fan can see him as a better guitar player than Duane, Dickey, Warren, or Derek. It's just my opinion, but all of those guys would blow him off the stage at their peak.

We've really been spoiled as fans by the band having so many great guitar players.


LOL. Hmm. All of those players have given major props to Clapton. Whatever, it is an ABB site.

Here's Clapton laying out a killer solo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjRI8LXChus



Never saw that solo before...mindblowingly good...thanks for posting...as much as I love Warren and Derek,EC's tone is still my favorite....

 

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  posted on 2/1/2014 at 10:38 AM
For those trying to make an argument over Claptons skill set please just listen to what Derek and Warren say about Clapton on the Crossroads 2013 DVD, then we'll discuss.

[Edited on 2/1/2014 by Peachypetewi]

 

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  posted on 2/1/2014 at 10:40 AM
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With all due respect to Clapton, I don't see how an ABB fan can see him as a better guitar player than Duane, Dickey, Warren, or Derek. It's just my opinion, but all of those guys would blow him off the stage at their peak.



Maybe they would, but without Clapton, there would be no Duane, Dickey, Warren, or Derek, for sure we wouldn't be talking about them.


It's all subjective folks.....

I dont think Clapton gave birth to the electric guitar as far as I know. So to say there would be NO
Duane, Dickey, Warren, or Derek is kinda out there. Yeah, Eric was one of many that helped pave the way for those guys and was an influence , but to say that if it was not for him we would not be talking about the ABB guitar players...huh? Would the ABB's guitarist be less of a player without him? I doubt it.

Peter Green,Santana,Jeff Beck,Jimmy Page, BB King,Chest Atkins,Hendrix,Les Paul,Wes Montgomery, Elmore James,Lightning Hopkins,Django Reinhardt,Mississippi Fred McDowell,T Bone Walker,Link Wray,BB King,Muddy Waters,Charlie Byrd,Scotty More,Chuck Berry,Hooker,Albert King,James Burton,Johnny Winter,Cliff Galup,Carl Perkins, it goes on.

Listen to Cliff Galup for instance, I can her his playing and influence on Dickey's style probably more than EC's.

Maybe they all did not have a direct influence , but they helped form the world of the countless styles,techniques,tricks,tones that myslelf and anyone else in the world who plays guitar.

My post is not a slight toward Eric and what he has meant. I think he is one of the greats and his tone these days I think sounds better than ever. When he digs in, he balances the line of pure sweetness and crunchy bliss better than anyone.

[Edited on 2/2/2014 by jszfunk]

 

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  posted on 2/1/2014 at 10:54 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjRI8LXChus
Scorching face-melter. Nice vocal also.

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He balances the line of pure sweetness and crunchy bliss better than anyone.
Nice analysis!

 

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  posted on 2/1/2014 at 11:01 AM
Why Does Love Got To Be So Sad...

http://youtu.be/1YCakEDEPPs

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  posted on 2/1/2014 at 11:29 AM
Even though the performance is going on 20 years old now, the one I always point to for my friends who say Clapton stopped playing guitar in the early 70's is his scorching performance of Don't a Think a Twice It's Alright from the Dylan Anniversary show.

And more recently, the solos are short and crisp, but I say this without hyperbole, I don't know if I've ever heard Eric play better than he did on the Marsalis album. It's not really my style of music but I listen to it all the time because Eric is sublime on that album. You only need to watch the DVD when the pan to band members' faces during Clapton's parts to see the admiration those jazzy guys have for him.

 

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  posted on 2/1/2014 at 12:07 PM
Hmmmm ... All Clapton haters especially here ought to be taken out and shot. Notice I didn't say killed just shot. And of course I'm entitled to my opinion.

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Peter Green,Santana,Jeff Beck,Jimmy Page, BB King,Chest Atkins,Hendrix,Les Paul,Wes Montgomery, Elmore James,Lightning Hopkins,Django Reinhardt,Mississippi Fred McDowell,T Bone Walker,Link Wray,BB King,Muddy Waters,Charlie Byrd,Scotty More,Chuck Berry,Hooker,Albert King,James Burton,Johnny Winter,Cliff Galup,Carl Perkins, it goes on.




What is so funny about this list that jzfunk posts of influential players is how many owe an actual debt of gratitude to Clapton for helping them with their career and this is before the current Crossroads phenomena. After reading Clapton's autobiography, it's hard to label him anything but a narcissist. However, nobody is more important in helping to preserve the blues than Clapton. Nobody. There is nobody who has occupied the spot of one of the top guitarists every decade since the sixties to now. If you don't like him, fine. Just don't try to belittle him or his achievements. You come of as ignorant.

 

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  posted on 2/1/2014 at 03:36 PM
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Hmmmm ... All Clapton haters especially here ought to be taken out and shot. Notice I didn't say killed just shot. And of course I'm entitled to my opinion.

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Peter Green,Santana,Jeff Beck,Jimmy Page, BB King,Chest Atkins,Hendrix,Les Paul,Wes Montgomery, Elmore James,Lightning Hopkins,Django Reinhardt,Mississippi Fred McDowell,T Bone Walker,Link Wray,BB King,Muddy Waters,Charlie Byrd,Scotty More,Chuck Berry,Hooker,Albert King,James Burton,Johnny Winter,Cliff Galup,Carl Perkins, it goes on.




What is so funny about this list that jzfunk posts of influential players is how many owe an actual debt of gratitude to Clapton for helping them with their career and this is before the current Crossroads phenomena. After reading Clapton's autobiography, it's hard to label him anything but a narcissist. However, nobody is more important in helping to preserve the blues than Clapton. Nobody. There is nobody who has occupied the spot of one of the top guitarists every decade since the sixties to now. If you don't like him, fine. Just don't try to belittle him or his achievements. You come of as ignorant.


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  posted on 2/2/2014 at 02:19 AM
I'll not go into his playing other than to say that in my opinion he has no equal.
More importantly, as a man he has given so much back. I can think of no musician from this era that has made me so proud to be a fan.

 

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  posted on 2/2/2014 at 06:24 AM
This thread title is just ridiculous. even if you don't like him,you must have some respect for him.
 

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  posted on 2/2/2014 at 03:16 PM
One of my favorites, with Andy Maywether Low again and David Sanborn

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  posted on 2/2/2014 at 04:12 PM
There is rumors he may play with the ABB at the Beacon because of the 45th anv. That would be awesome if its true. I bet he will be asked and it will be up to him if he wants to do it.
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  posted on 2/2/2014 at 09:47 PM
EC is a remarkable guitarist with an instantly recognizable tone, tons of attitude and a decent singing voice on top of all of his masterful chops. I appreciate his playing and he has influenced me like no other player has. I am not sure why from time to time people on this site try to take cheap shots at him. I truly feel bad for those who cant hear how brilliant a player he is.

 

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  posted on 2/2/2014 at 09:55 PM
The kids in the guitar store who mangle "Stairway to Heaven" and the "Smoke on the Water" riff and players like ...me! We suck!

Any real player who thinks Clapton sucks is not as good as he, his friends or his mama thinks he is!

Eric Clapton just does not suck - period!

 

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  posted on 2/2/2014 at 10:27 PM
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There is rumors he may play with the ABB at the Beacon because of the 45th anv. That would be awesome if its true. I bet he will be asked and it will be up to him if he wants to do it.
Ed


Hopefully the 14th-15th, I would owe him one if he shows up that weekend

 
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