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  posted on 1/25/2014 at 06:25 PM
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No official announcement, but Bill Levenson posted a picture of the At Fillmore East album cover on FB and when someone asked him if he was working on a Fillmore East box, he went "Sssshhhh."

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  posted on 1/25/2014 at 06:37 PM

 

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  posted on 1/25/2014 at 06:44 PM
That would be cool.
 

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  posted on 1/25/2014 at 07:12 PM
Not sure what they could release at this point.

It's been released, re-released, re-mixed, released and re-mixed and re-released again already.

That horn player sounded none too good on "The Fillmore Concerts" box.

 

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  posted on 1/25/2014 at 09:54 PM

Oh gawd. This band defies description - the make and continue to make some of the best live music ever, while constantly repackaging previously released material. Sigh.

First we had LAFE

then it became known that some of the performances were spliced

so we had the release of the uncut versions

then the release of the shows plus the outtakes

WHAT pray tell is left in the vaults? One last tune so they can repackage it again
as another different version???

(sound of head mashing against wall)

 

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  posted on 1/25/2014 at 10:11 PM
That would be me that he said "ssssh" to.

When he puts up an album cover as his profile picture, that means he has started that project. His last album picture was 461 Ocean Blvd. cover, ane we know how nice that set turned out!

This Fillmore box should be all of the shows, a complete box set with a nice book! The one we have all been waiting on for years. With the B&S deluxe set, the Duane Box set, Bill is really taking care of us, we should enjoy these days with the band winding down and we all get to hear all of these gems from the golden days of the band that we have been begging for for years. I for one am stoked!

[Edited on 1/26/2014 by Wayne]

 

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  posted on 1/25/2014 at 10:39 PM
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That would be me that he said "ssssh" to.

When he puts up an album cover as his profile picture, that means he has started that project. His last album picture was 461 Ocean Blvd. cover, ane we know how nice that set turned out!

This Fillmore box should be all of the shows, a complete box set with a nice book! The one we have all been waiting on for years. With the B&S deluxe set, the Duane Box set, Bill is really taking care of us, we should enjoy these days with the band winding down and we all get to hear all of these gems from the golden days of the band that we have been begging for for years. I for one am stoked!

[Edited on 1/26/2014 by Wayne]


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  posted on 1/25/2014 at 11:36 PM
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That would be me that he said "ssssh" to.

When he puts up an album cover as his profile picture, that means he has started that project. His last album picture was 461 Ocean Blvd. cover, ane we know how nice that set turned out!

This Fillmore box should be all of the shows, a complete box set with a nice book! The one we have all been waiting on for years. With the B&S deluxe set, the Duane Box set, Bill is really taking care of us, we should enjoy these days with the band winding down and we all get to hear all of these gems from the golden days of the band that we have been begging for for years. I for one am stoked!

[Edited on 1/26/2014 by Wayne]


That sounds pretty good to me. I've been listening to the Humble Pie Complete Fillmore shows that created the great Rockin' the Fillmore record. Some really good stuff there.

 

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  posted on 1/26/2014 at 03:23 AM
What could they put in it to entice us to buy it?

 

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  posted on 1/26/2014 at 08:54 AM
This sounds interesting.

Seems the record companies are doing their best to gouge the classic rock era market fans and the die hards.

As someone who has the recent Clapton "74-75" box, I can say that was mostly repackaged tracks from Clapton's "461 - Deluxe Edition" "There's ..." "EC Was Here", "Crossroads 2" and Freddie King's "Burglar" album.
Among all that, there was SOME unreleased stuff (like 8 tracks, I think). The 5.1 mix of 461 and the included quad mixes of 461 and There's ... are pretty cool. On a side note, I think it is somewhat humorous they named the set "Give Me Strength" considering the song gave Clapton a legal headache into the 80's. Bill Levenson mentioned in the HTN interview that only one song was recycled from "There's ..." and that was because "Give Me Strength" had to be deleted until the plagarism thing got settled.

SO considering all that, I think a Fillmore box would just be either all 4 shows , warts and all, similar to the Delaney and Bonnie box with Clapton (I sort of doubt this though), or a similar repackaging with a couple extra goodies, with the 5.1 mix on a blu ray, similar to the Clapton box above.

And of course a new essay with maybe some new pictures.

Have to wait and see, but that is probably the second, considering how good the AFE DE is, I'll wait.

 

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  posted on 1/26/2014 at 11:01 AM
The Allman Brothers Band played and recorded 3nights - early & late shows, total 6shows- at The Fillmore East, March 11th,12th,13th, 1971. I would buy every note played immediately, without a second thought, and be 100% happy about it

 

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  posted on 1/26/2014 at 11:33 AM
Unless they are releasing video footage of Duane, I can't think of anything that would entice me to buy this material again.
 
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  posted on 1/26/2014 at 11:47 AM
I thought Gregg recently said in a interview..." No more Archives?"

$$ talks I guess.

 

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  posted on 1/26/2014 at 12:00 PM
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The Allman Brothers Band played and recorded 3nights - early & late shows, total 6shows- at The Fillmore East, March 11th,12th,13th, 1971. I would buy every note played immediately, without a second thought, and be 100% happy about it


+1 - ever since I got that Aretha/King Curtis Fillmore West box, I've been dreaming of a complete fillmore weekend box. I just pray they get someone to mix it who "gets" the ABB sound... You only get one shot at this so it has to be good! I thought the final fillmore gig that they released with EAP deluxe was a mess, mixwise (drums too quiet, Jaimoe more prominent in the mix than Butch... etc).

Anyway, whatever - I'll be buying :-)

 

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  posted on 1/26/2014 at 12:04 PM
It's funny how people (myself included) have been posting on this site lamenting a as recorded version of the Fillmore East. Now that it looks like a possibility people are posting it's a ripoff. You know the Dead release every burp and fart and the fans just can't wait to gobble it up. I agree with Peachnutt, I'm not gonna blink. I just want to hear the other 5 versions of Whipping Post.
 

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  posted on 1/26/2014 at 12:51 PM
I have read about this on other forums (one being the Steve Hoffman Forum... which I can see some of you also post on! ) And the reaction has been one of excitement and anticipation.

But here, most people are so instantly negative right off the bat, which I find strange because I thought this was the site to celebrate all things ABB. Maybe I'm wrong? I just don't understand it.

Why are people down about this? Here is a chance that we might get to hear all of Fillmore recordings that haven't been released (assuming that's what this box is all about) and people are somehow feeling that this is a bad thing.

Years ago I used to come here to enjoy the chat and the shared love and knowledge with others. Most of those people are gone and now it seems that no matter WHAT is happening it is taken negatively.

 

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  posted on 1/26/2014 at 12:58 PM
I think I need to join this Steve Hoffman forum :-) had the same thoughts as you!

I can't wait to hear the back end of the original YDLM...

I can't wait to hear the other Liz Reeds...

I can't wait to hear the other Whipping Posts...

I can't wait to hear the horn section...

I can't wait to hear the snippets of chat between the songs...

I can't wait to hear if there are any other "play all night" moments...

It's soundboard pristine quality Duane era ABB!!!!!!! It's more of what really got 99% of us into the band, I'm sure!

All in all...

I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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  posted on 1/26/2014 at 12:59 PM
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Seems the record companies are doing their best to gouge the classic rock era market fans and the die hards.


I think they're banking on the idea that the original audience is now senile enough to forget that they already own this stuff!


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I have read about this on other forums (one being the Steve Hoffman Forum... which I can see some of you also post on! ) And the reaction has been one of excitement and anticipation.

But here, most people are so instantly negative right off the bat, which I find strange because I thought this was the site to celebrate all things ABB. Maybe I'm wrong? I just don't understand it.

Why are people down about this? Here is a chance that we might get to hear all of Fillmore recordings that haven't been released (assuming that's what this box is all about) and people are somehow feeling that this is a bad thing.

Years ago I used to come here to enjoy the chat and the shared love and knowledge with others. Most of those people are gone and now it seems that no matter WHAT is happening it is taken negatively.


I can't speak for every ABB fan, but personally - I never play the recordings anymore. I LOVE them, it's just that I wore the groves off the originals (vinyl) back in the day. The Allman Brothers have always been abut performing live - that's what I live for, the LIVE shows! If they can find a listening/buying audience for the 2nd, 3rd, 4th ... re-re-re-reissues, then more power to them.

I am a die-hard fan of each incarnation of my favorite band ever, but I see no need to collect each and every edition that comes down the pike. With so many re-issues, the fidelity never even matches the original. But if it itches, by all means scratch it!

 

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  posted on 1/26/2014 at 01:19 PM
this came from Kirk about 8 yrs ago in regards to inquires on the Fillmore Concerts set:

"the low down is this...for the fillmore concerts i proposed the idea of gathering all the different tracks from all the different sources and compile an "ideal" set from the fillmore. the band recorded 4 sets over 2 nights and the final late set on the 13th was the longest, over 2 hours. most of the sets were 70-90 minutes and they played all the songs more than once, except for stormy monday, mt. jam and drunken hearted boy.

the original idea was to include the alternate versions of as many tracks as possible. the set list was created and tracks were picked. the remix was done by tom dowd at the request of bill levenson of polygram's catalog division, someone i worked with on a number of projects and the executive producer of this package. tom and i had several long discussions about the track selections and my thoughts and reasons for them, but the overriding notion was a package that offered the fans an "alternate" take on the fillmore weekend. tom said he got it and understood the premise.

the band was on tour during the summer when the remixes were done and they were sent to me on the road after tom finished them with bill levenson observing the mixing. the mixes were quite dramatic and truely brought out things i hadn't ever heard before in the tracks but tom had changed the course of things and basicly remixed what he had felt was the "best" track selection, which was obviously the tracks that he and the band had selected in 1971. the hot 'lanta and done somebody wrong are alternate versions. the you don't love me is spliced the same way it was on the original. the stormy monday had the harp solo left in just like the quad version from 1974. the problem with liz reed is this (and i know this to be true because i've spent months in the polygram tape vaults over the years and have handled and listened to all of these things), there is a tape in the vaults that is a "compilation reel", that is the selected versions of several songs and on it is a version of the liz reed from the 13th early set. this tape was included in the shipment of tape from the tape vault to the mixing studio where tom worked. this tape is not clearly marked as a "comp tape" but upon close investgation it proved to be just that back in 91-92. as i said, i had picked all these alt tracks in the winter of 91-92 and was on the road when tom did the mixing. tom did splice the front end of liz reed from one tape to the back end of liz reed from a second tape. unfortunately, it was two tapes of the same performance of liz reed, that of the 13th early show. in the process of remixing these tapes in 92 tom did hear things that he hadn't heard before, he says that exact thing in the liner notes.
when i got the mixes in kansas city on a day off on the road i listened to them all day and night, heart sick and elated, sick from the set list being trashed from my original idea and elated from the new sound of these old tracks.
after all that, it really all comes down to what any one person likes to hear. the original mix you grew up listening to or some thing different and pick up on something new.
the last fillmore package is pretty much what levenson wanted to put out originally anyhow, so he's happy.
i'd still like to someday put out all four sets from that weekend as a final statement. kind of like the dead just did with those 69 shows, although this would be 5-6 discs not 10.

hope this kind of clears things up
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it was a very special thing, getting to work with tom dowd on these and other projects, he was a wonderful man and it was an honor to be around him and to have him call me a friend. we all were very lucky to have had him in our little world."

 

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  posted on 1/26/2014 at 01:40 PM
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.....But here, most people are so instantly negative right off the bat, which I find strange because I thought this was the site to celebrate all things ABB. Maybe I'm wrong? I just don't understand it.

Why are people down about this? Here is a chance that we might get to hear all of Fillmore recordings that haven't been released (assuming that's what this box is all about) and people are somehow feeling that this is a bad thing.

Years ago I used to come here to enjoy the chat and the shared love and knowledge with others. Most of those people are gone and now it seems that no matter WHAT is happening it is taken negatively.


AMEN BROTHER!
That's why I mostly just lurk around on here. This forum has changed a lot from what it once was. You always have to read about the famous "auto-pen" fiasco that the same people will never get over. Or the same grumbling about shipping or item issues with hittinthenote.com. Or the same grumblings about how bad Gregg's book is. Or all the people still in the "Bring Back Dickey" camp after 14 years. Or all the people bitching about no new studio album in 11 years. There are a lot of good folks on here but there's also a lot of chronic bellyachers and people that just like to sling the same old crap at each other constantly. I think all of that same rehashing of negative crap is what has ran so many good people away from here. I come on here for something to make me feel good and positive. And it's also nice when it relates to the ABB's music!!! Just my opinion, we all have one ;-)

I would welcome anything new from the famous Fillmore Weekend and I think any TRUE and dedicated fan would.

 

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  posted on 1/26/2014 at 02:04 PM
We need all four shows from both nights, from the first note to the last, all of the stage chatter between me the songs, everything on tape! This what we have all been asking for forever, buy it or don't buy it.

This isn't like The Beatles U.S. CDs that just came which we have all heard before as they used the same remixes from the U.K. Remastered versions, this is brand new music to our ears (most of us anyway) except for the few songs that have been released.

I cannot believe anyone would complain about a chance to hear all four shows from the famous Fillmore weekend. This place really doesn't make sense sometimes, imagine, an ABB forum that would not want to hear vintage, soundboard Duane era music!

 

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  posted on 1/26/2014 at 02:23 PM
I want to ad a couple of thoughts on this topic, but they are random comments so they will not seem to follow a path.

Someone posted years ago that they heard all of the FE shows on a cassette tape. The guy said he roomed with Tom D. son in school and the kid had a copy of the complete FE shows. I think the comment was that the horn shows were very different what we were use to ABB. I have a the original opening of YDLM on ABB FE on DTS. It is different and you may not like it. Also, many of the fans were not ABB fans from the first album. I think the first album to the second album shows the band could go different routes. Whipping post to Liz Reed to Revival. Many fans real taste of ABB was FE and EAP then they may have back tracked to the first 2 albums. I had the first 2 albums and liked them but they were not No 1 yet. It was FE that made them No 1. EAP kept the No 1 for me.
I hope that this complete set comes about. I hope I will not be disappointed. I think the shows with the horns will show a different side to ABB.
I closing I hope it comes about and has everything talking in between songs warts and all. I think it would great addition to ABB releases.

 

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  posted on 1/26/2014 at 02:24 PM
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I thought Gregg recently said in a interview..." No more Archives?"

$$ talks I guess.


Since when was the only Allman in the Allman Brothers band been a reliable source about the band that bears his name?

Ask Oteil about his new job with the Zac Brown Band.



If it is a box set of everything recorded over those couple of days, I'll be one of the first in line to get it. I'd love to hear all of those shows. I look forward to it.

[Edited on 1/26/2014 by WarEagleRK]

 

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  posted on 1/26/2014 at 03:28 PM
Wonder if any thought has been given to add other Fillmore East/West shows to the box set, such as the February 1970 FE shows with the Grateful Dead.
 

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  posted on 1/26/2014 at 06:40 PM
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What could they put in it to entice us to buy it?/
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