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Author: Subject: How Good (and Brave) is Dickey Betts?

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  posted on 1/22/2014 at 01:48 PM
Good (and Brave) enough to play AFTER Jack Pearson.

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  posted on 1/22/2014 at 02:04 PM
The thought of following Jack is enough to drive you to drink.

 

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  posted on 1/22/2014 at 02:04 PM
Outstanding solo!!

 

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  posted on 1/22/2014 at 02:19 PM
Alan - ha!!

How about Dickey's comping on that solo? not too shabby. he was always giving jack the goods.

 

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  posted on 1/22/2014 at 02:36 PM
God, sometimes I foget how nasty JP is.

 

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  posted on 1/22/2014 at 04:15 PM
Jack has the misfortune to have been hammocked between the original line-up and the Warren/Derek line-up. He played with the ABB during one of their "non-peak" times. I believe Jaimoe once said that Jack was the most Duane-like of any of the guitarists that have ever played with the band. If he didn't say it, then I'll take credit for the quote! I'm not getting in to the "who's better/best?" argument - but for my money there is no better player than Jackie P!

I've had the good pleasure of chatting with Jack on several occasions. There is also just not a nicer guy in the world! He told me that he only wishes that he'd had the opportunity to record with the Allman Brothers. An unbelievable player!

 

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  posted on 1/22/2014 at 04:19 PM
I really enjoyed the shows I caught in '97 and '98 with Jack. My memory was of Dickey's playing really starting to become erratic around this time though.
 

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  posted on 1/22/2014 at 05:57 PM
I truly believe if it wasnt for the tinnitus problems,people would be talking about jack in the same breath as clapton and santana. and Rusty great post,it is not too late for jack to record with the Brothers!!!
 

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  posted on 1/22/2014 at 06:28 PM

Thanks for the video
Jack is great..he just needs to play a Gibson! . Some nice meaty humbuckers
would sound good!!
Just kidding, it's all awesome. HIs tone is excellent on that Strat.

Check this one!! The solo he plays fits so well into the context of the song, just flows and works
wondefully. Sweet and gritty!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekmibr7ft_U

 

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  posted on 1/22/2014 at 06:30 PM
One thing I give Dickey unlimited credit for is his willingness to be paired with the very best guitarists throughout the ABB reunion period. As the frontman or co-frontman of a legendary band - it would have very easy and some might say reasonable of him to ensure the other guitar player in the ABB was good - but clearly not as good as Betts to leave no doubt that Dickey Betts was the guitar star of the show. Dickey completely rejected that limelight hogging mentality and that allowed the ABB to have guys like Warren, Jack, and Derek play with Dickey. Many music stars would not have accepted that challenge.

 

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  posted on 1/22/2014 at 07:10 PM
Amen to the above post! I remember reading somewhere in the early 90's Dickey he wanteda guitar player (Warren) to just as good if not better for a better band.

 

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  posted on 1/22/2014 at 07:59 PM
"Jack has the misfortune to have been hammocked between the original line-up and the Warren/Derek line-up. He played with the ABB during one of their "non-peak" times."

Very well said Rusty. I respect Jack, but his tenure was the low point of my ABB interest over the past 20 years.

Not because Jack wasn't awesome--he was. But Oteil was still getting his feet under him, and while Dickey played well a lot of the time during this period, he was also singing songs like Georgia On A Fast Train and Tombstone Eyes that did absolutely nothing for me.

I also didn't enjoy Jack as much as I do Derek, but that is like saying I prefer Beethoven to Mozart. I do, but that doesn't mean I'm saying that Mozart guy is a hack who doesn't know what he is doing.

 
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  posted on 1/22/2014 at 09:57 PM
oh no !! warren & Derick leaving !! so bittersweet . road goes on forever

 

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  posted on 1/23/2014 at 01:22 AM
My interest in the ABB had also reached a low point during Jacks time with the band.
Watching some of his solos I now wish I had not let myself become a "dropout".
Jack's solos are very unique, I see no "cookie cutter" running the scales runs.
His mouth does some very Duane"ish" things as he plays, he's very into it.
I'll be checking into him and listening more!

Thanks for the post.

 

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  posted on 1/23/2014 at 09:12 AM
Jack Pearson killing a Gibson! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXGqmq9483c

 

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  posted on 1/23/2014 at 10:27 AM
When Mr. Betts is on he can hang with anyone. To compare is apples and oranges. It's like who is better Monet or Picasso. It's all relative. That being said I think Jack Pearson is one of the greatest guitarsts walking on this planet. Don't forget Dickey wrote some of the greatest songs of the 20th century.
 

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  posted on 1/23/2014 at 10:36 AM
I am a bigger Jack Pearson fan now than I was when he was in the band. His approach on stuff was so different at times that I had to get used to it. And I might be a bigger Jack fan outside the ABB than I am his 2 years in the band. I saw the band 6 times between 1997-1999 with Jack. I've seen the Jack Pearson Band and seen him perform with Gregg & Friends and seen him perform acoustically. He's off the charts good on Gregg's Searchin For Simplicity album and his solo and duo stuff with others shows a world class, diverse player who is a master at many styles.

That Jack isn't a household name even among guitar people is a strange phenomenon to me.

Jack had to turn his stage volume up so much in the ABB that I think he lost some of his rustic sound that he brings (at lower volumes). His tone was too much like Dickey's at times such that the band didn't have as much ying/yang as previously. I've enjoyed his sit-ins with the ABB since where I think he had more of "his" sound.

I will say again that Jack was my co-MVP at the Gregg Tribute. Everyone was talking about him afterward. The more he does with Gregg (in or outside the ABB) is always welcome with me!

 

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  posted on 1/23/2014 at 11:48 AM
A few thoughts on Jack:

I was seeing 6-10 shows in the beacon for a bunch of years including the years with Jack.

There was alot of whining and moaning about Jack's playing...too jazzy,taking leads in the wrong direction,not true to the sound,etc.

Also,by 97-98 Dickey was playing very loud(and I was loving it) but the sound dynamics of the band were changing.

Having said all that,those shows rocked and this version of the Brothers were kick ass.

I realize Rob might differ,but i tought Oteil's playing was very good with Jack,keeping a solid bottom thereby helping them maintain that Allmans swing that's so necessary to the sound.As the intensity of the drumming increased,as Oteil's sound became more busy and the guitars were less twin and more foot to the metal duels,than the more the swing diminished.(Berry played alot of notes,a lead bass...all over the fretboard,but he was never busy and never ever lost hat swing...he was that rare master of his music)

With Jack,the Allmans IMHO,got an incredibly,smooth,capable jazz and blues player who kept the Allmans spirit and sound at its highest level.He also was technically brilliant in his playing almost enabling those who play with him to stay true to the music and play to keep that swing!

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  posted on 1/23/2014 at 12:11 PM
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With Jack,the Allmans IMHO,got an incredibly,smooth,capable jazz and blues player who kept the Allmans spirit and sound at its highest level.He also was technically brilliant in his playing almost enabling those who play with him to stay true to the music and play to keep that swing!



Totally agree, after the heaviness of Warren/Woody, there was definitely a lot more air the sound in 1997 - not a bad thing at all. A great example is "Sailing 'Cross the Devil's Sea" which went from powerhouse with Warren/Woody to almost skeletal with Oteil/Jack. And it wasn't just Jack's smoother sound - Oteil had a much lighter touch on the bottom than Woody. The switch to Fenders for Dickey and Oteil and the fender-esque Squire for Jack took contributed to the thinner, smoother sound as well.

It really suited the instrumentals and solo-heavy songs like "High Falls" and "Dreams". It was very similar to the original band's sound, but there wasn't a lot of songwriting going on so the period gets largely forgotten. Glad that Jack's appearances with the band (and Gregg) have renewed interested in that period and his huge talent. It's the biggest "what if?" next to a Dickey & Derek-led Allman Brothers studio album.

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  posted on 1/23/2014 at 01:09 PM
Never saw The Brothers with Jack, but he was with Gregg at a solo show in VT during 2006 and his playing that night was enough to convince me why he has such a loyal following among the community
 

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  posted on 1/23/2014 at 02:03 PM
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Just kidding, it's all awesome. HIs tone is excellent on that Strat.


I didn't watch the clip yet, but usually Jack plays a G&L and not a strat, with humbucker pickups.

 

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My interest in the ABB had also reached a low point during Jacks time with the band.
Watching some of his solos I now wish I had not let myself become a "dropout".
Jack's solos are very unique, I see no "cookie cutter" running the scales runs.
His mouth does some very Duane"ish" things as he plays, he's very into it.
I'll be checking into him and listening more!

Thanks for the post.


Funny, the ONLY reason I didn't "dropout" in those years was because of Jack. I was a huge fan of the earlier version of the band and was very sad when Warren & Woody left... but I was so faithful to the band that I figured, "they wouldn't get crap players". And I knew Oteil already, but Jack played about 3 notes and I "got it" ... Yes, the band was really different and I kind of missed some of the "heaviness" of the previous era... but Jack & Oteil brought an intensity that was completely different...

One of the things that I love about Jack is that you never KNEW what kind of solo he was going to play... He would just rip certain things on a song and the next night, he might lay back and play all these crazy melodies. I understand some people didn't like that, but it kept me coming back.

Whereas Dickey really has a style and takes each song with a similar approach... As did Warren and even Derek sometimes... Jack would play slide on a song you've never heard slide on before, just on a whim ("High Falls") and he would play these incredibly intense solos with very ABB type build-ups in "Liz Reed" one night and the next night, he would play it totally "jazzy"...

Although Derek & Warren are 2 of my favs as well, I still miss Jack.

 

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  posted on 1/23/2014 at 02:33 PM
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My interest in the ABB had also reached a low point during Jacks time with the band.


The brothers came to San Diego in '97 and by that point, my interest as well was fading....When we arrived at the show and the band took the stage, we were close enough for me to notice immediately that Warren was not there. Having been through various earlier incarnations of the band, I saw change as "uh-oh"..... The years with Toler, Warren, various subs and fill-ins and now the dude with the little beanie hat thing. I admire Jack's playing a lot, but to be honest, I recall nothing about the performance.

 

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Just kidding, it's all awesome. HIs tone is excellent on that Strat.


I didn't watch the clip yet, but usually Jack plays a G&L and not a strat, with humbucker pickups.


Jack was playing a G&L in this clip, but I've seen him play several guitars including a Squier (Fender low-cost import) with original pick-ups. I've been told that he bought this guitar at a pawn shop for $50.00. The only mod' being that he made one of the volume pot's into a tone (or vice-versa?). I've said often that Jack Pearson could play a broom and get great results!

 

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  posted on 1/23/2014 at 04:07 PM
Jack is tremendous.

I went down to a few shows in Ohio the summer he and Oteil were on their first tour to do a feature for Guitar World... Spent a lot of time with both and really dug it. An absolute highlight: late at night post show in a hotel room with Jack and him playing acoustic to an audience of just me...

I was so happy that he had that opportunity to shine at the GA tribute... and he really did... And he was playing a Squier Bullet, which I might not even buy for one of my kids. Amazing guy. Great player. I love his work with the ABB. Issues that were hampering them at some shows had nothing to do with him.

A real pity that he doesn't fly any more.

 

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