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  posted on 1/11/2014 at 12:56 PM
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  posted on 1/11/2014 at 01:30 PM
He could very well be describing a conversation where he said something like "Don't feel held back guys. Please don't ever feel like you are obligated. We won't be doing this forever and you have young families. We love having you in the band"

But I'm sure others will make his comment into some ind of firing or other drama.

 

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  posted on 1/11/2014 at 01:35 PM
It could be that Gregg felt not that he needed to go in a different direction but knew that he wasn't getting much of a commitment anymore. That sounds rational to me. What are y'all gonna say if we see some fresh new hot players in the band and a ramped up tour schedule once again? I say it's very possible. Gregg has said he feels better now than he has in many years.



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  posted on 1/11/2014 at 01:38 PM
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"I might even have instigated it"


"Well, if you guys don't like it, you can just leave"

 

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  posted on 1/11/2014 at 01:43 PM
At any rate, it sounds like the ABB is hanging it up after this year ("It's about that time, ya know. Forty-five years..it's a...a good--").

 

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  posted on 1/11/2014 at 01:45 PM
Also don't forget what Warren or Derek said not too long ago, something to the effect of "there is more communication between everyone in the band now than there has been in a long time". What was that all about? New album? 45th reunion being the end? Who knows. All irrelevant, as the proof's in the pudding as they say. Love it still, great music and all, but it's been...stupefyingly obvious for quite some time (I love coming up with descriptive words to amuse myself) that this has become a conglomeration of musicians--great ones, at that--but not a cohesive band, what with the 53 albums a year from all the spinoff bands as well as 98% of interviews focusing on what the Mule or TTB are doing, with just a quick aside regarding the ABB.

It's all good, just my opinion and your mileage may vary and all that...

Love the ABB and always will. But at this stage of the game, unless there's more Gregg in it, I'm 'Driftin' Back' into the latest Neil Young & Crazy Horse album.

 

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  posted on 1/11/2014 at 01:47 PM
His comment should not surprise anyone... Gregg has always made of point of putting himself first in anything... history shows that..

 

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  posted on 1/11/2014 at 02:36 PM
Who knows what he meant in that brief interview & quote. Gregg's never been a great interview. So, you either take the words as black & white and leave it at that. Or you try to interpret what he's saying, and that's not easy. Not trying to over think this, but from all the interviews I've heard him give over the years, there just always seems like there are areas of gray or you think to yourself "what does he mean by that?" Just saying...
 

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  posted on 1/11/2014 at 03:24 PM
I highly doubt Gregg's quote meant there was any negativity or tension that lead to the split. My estimation is that the words "I may have instigated it", coupled with "45 years, it's time", means it was more mutual than anything else. Add those quotes to the others from Warren lately about "those in the circle are not surprised", and it sounds more and more likely that Gregg has been planning to end the Allman Brothers Band after 45 years. I bet he suggested to Warren, Derek, and Oteil to explore other options now before they miss out on something good, a very noble, selfless, and classy act if you ask me. As the saying goes, if you love someone, set them free.
 

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  posted on 1/11/2014 at 05:50 PM
I'm just looking forward to exceptional shows in 2014. Who can ask for more than that?

 

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  posted on 1/11/2014 at 08:37 PM
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I highly doubt Gregg's quote meant there was any negativity or tension that lead to the split. My estimation is that the words "I may have instigated it", coupled with "45 years, it's time", means it was more mutual than anything else. Add those quotes to the others from Warren lately about "those in the circle are not surprised", and it sounds more and more likely that Gregg has been planning to end the Allman Brothers Band after 45 years. I bet he suggested to Warren, Derek, and Oteil to explore other options now before they miss out on something good, a very noble, selfless, and classy act if you ask me. As the saying goes, if you love someone, set them free.


Read Gregg's book again before you think he does anything classy, noble or selfless.

 

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  posted on 1/11/2014 at 09:06 PM
we'll never know the full story,
imo, it doesn't matter who said what when

to me, all that matters at this point is that the last year be a good one

[Edited on 1/12/2014 by stormyrider]

 

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  posted on 1/12/2014 at 12:56 AM
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I highly doubt Gregg's quote meant there was any negativity or tension that lead to the split. My estimation is that the words "I may have instigated it", coupled with "45 years, it's time", means it was more mutual than anything else. Add those quotes to the others from Warren lately about "those in the circle are not surprised", and it sounds more and more likely that Gregg has been planning to end the Allman Brothers Band after 45 years. I bet he suggested to Warren, Derek, and Oteil to explore other options now before they miss out on something good, a very noble, selfless, and classy act if you ask me. As the saying goes, if you love someone, set them free.
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Read Gregg's book again before you think he does anything classy, noble or selfless.



He did a lot of dirty sh*t, but he was writing a book. Those types of stories make for a good read and sell copies. You don't get a ton of PR if your book is filled with pleasantries and compliments. I have no idea what type of person he is, but as you get older in life you often change and mellow out. Even after reading the book, and hearing about his feud with Dickey, I have no reason to believe he would treat Warren, Derek, and Oteil with any type of disprespect.


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  posted on 1/12/2014 at 01:06 AM
Speaking of class acts (boy this week's news has got me really nostalgic), one of the coolest things I ever saw was something Dickey did on the Brothers of the Road DVD. During the outdoor Florida set, when Dangerous Dan took his solo during Whipping Post, Dickey made sure to walk towards the back of the stage to give Dan his shining moment. He forced all eyes on Dan by doing so, and I thought that was an amazing gesture. I'm guessing lots of musicians do that for each other, but it's the only time I've ever seen it done.

I saw the ABB about 40 times since 1999. The first time in 1999, I was 20, was with Dickey. I can still remember being on the lawn in Camden, NJ, at the time the venue was called the Sony Blockbuster Entertainment Center, and seeing Dickey's cowboy hat from a distance. The following year I remember reading about Dickey being fired on my parents desktop computer, using dial-up internet on Prodigy, lol. This was when you could not use the phone if someone was on the internet, and vice versa. The next time I saw them was in 2001 at the same venue and I remember seeing Warren and Derek and thinking to myself, "hey, these replacement guys are pretty good. If there's anyone who could replace Dickey and Duane, it's these 2 guys." The rest is history.



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  posted on 1/12/2014 at 06:25 AM
Gregg said 'I MAY have initiated it' - in fact, he might've indicated to them an acknowledgement of their contributions for all this time and a willingness to let them move on.

Remember when Derek went with Clapton, Gregg made it real clear to Derek when they needed him back.

I wouldn't put it past Gregg to try to do the right thing now that he feels well and really has invigorated his career at a time when it could be winding down for good.

It's OK if the Brothers go out on top with a season of epic shows. It's all good.

Fact is Warren and Derek can work for anyone, both have made plenty of money, both have audiences for their own solo work they would never have had they not gone with the ABB.

It's all good.

 

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  posted on 1/13/2014 at 09:19 AM
I'm looking forward to another stellar period for The Brothers beginning in 2015. Possibly a 1 guitar , 1 piano set up similar to the Chuck years. Maybe bring back the subtle, softer style that made the 73-75 period special. I don't think this band is finished yet. A full band announcement signifying the end would have occurred if this was the case. No question Warren and Derek's participation played a role in The Brother's remaining a relevant musical force for the last 25 years. Their exit by no means has to mean the end of the band. A combination of Jack and Dickey or Dickey and Chuck or Jack and Chuck could create many more special musical moments for us.
We can't overlook Oteil's contribution over the last 17 years. Finding Oteil's replacement might be more difficult . It will be a major challenge for The Brothers to keep the train running but with planning and practice good things can happen. I'm sure Derek, Warren and Oteil will do whatever they can to make the transition as easy as possible. I have my weekday Beacon tickets for 2014 but im actually looking forward to what 2015 will bring for this band. As long as the band members are healthy and motivated there is no reason why they shouldnt continue.

 

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  posted on 1/13/2014 at 09:32 AM
It is entirely possible that both Trucks and Haynes told Allman that they were going to have to cut back on their commitment to the ABB even further going forward in order to dedicate more time to their solo careers and Gregg told them that they owed it to themselves to make the commitment a total one.I see nothing nefarious in this,we all knew this was coming eventually
 

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  posted on 1/13/2014 at 11:17 AM
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"Well, if you guys don't like it, you can just leave"


Pretty much what I was thinking. As others have said, it really does not matter how it happened anyway, and it is none of my business. Besides, it's really hard to give Gregg much credibility after the Oteil fiasco. He may not be lying, just confused.

 

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  posted on 1/13/2014 at 11:52 AM
It does make sense that this parting was amicable. There is no need for Gregg, Jaimoe and Butch to fold up the tent. Musically and financially an Allman Brothers Band can continue to be relevant even without recording new music.
 

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  posted on 1/13/2014 at 12:08 PM
I took it as, well the 45th seems as good a time as any to split, yeah?

 

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  posted on 1/13/2014 at 12:34 PM
Most likely what Gregg meant is that they indicated that they were torn because they love playing with the Brothers but it was not working for them and he told them its cool.

 

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  posted on 1/13/2014 at 01:06 PM
Sounds to me that his "45 years" comment means the end of the line for the ABB. My opinion (no one asked, I know) is that is what will happen. PS All My Friends was off the charts !!!

 

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  posted on 1/13/2014 at 01:07 PM
I think Gregg's manager dropped the ball by not having him prepared with a better answer for when that question inevitably came up.

Gregg is awkward at best with interviews and it showed during this one.

 

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  posted on 1/13/2014 at 01:24 PM
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There is no need for Gregg, Jaimoe and Butch to fold up the tent.



The additions to that trio (and Marc) would have to be utterly stellar to excite my interest.

Being practical, these three are not in rude health. Butch has knee problems which he claims leave him almost unable to climb on to the drum riser at the end of a Beacon run. Jaimoe and Gregg's ailments are well documented.

Dickey's day has passed. The four original members would need a hell of a helping hand to become a respectable line-up, imo.








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  posted on 1/13/2014 at 02:05 PM
Everybody is entitled to their opinion. These musicians still have plenty to offer as The Allman Brothers Band. Some would say Warren and Derek's guitar work might have overwhelmed the subtlety of the music at times. Some of the jams including Black Hearted Woman, Rocking Horse and others were a little over the top at times. On the other hand the way Warren and Derek handled Dreams, Don't Keep me Wondering and Aint Wasting Time No More was perfect for my ears. Gregg, Jaimoe and Butch have done a good job in the past when forced to make personnel decisions. Another opportunity has presented itself here to take the music to a different place.
 
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