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  posted on 10/18/2013 at 07:34 PM
I`M A NEW LISTENER TO THE WORLD OF JAZZ. I`VE GOTTEN ONLY MILES DAVIS, MONK, MINGUS. I`VE ALSO LIKE SOME JAZZ FUSEION MUSIC TOO. THANKS FOR THE TIPS.


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  posted on 10/18/2013 at 08:58 PM
It all starts and stops with John Coltrane

 

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  posted on 10/18/2013 at 09:09 PM
don't forget Charlie Parker

for fusion, start with Miles, branch off to the musicians he played with depending upon what you like
you can't go wrong by using Miles as a jumping point for all of jazz

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  posted on 10/19/2013 at 03:15 AM
Fusion I really like early Weather Report and the Joe Zwinul album Zawinul. Also I really like the Herbie Mann album Memphis Underground, also with Herbie look up Push Push which has Duane on it. Lots of great jazz out there

 

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  posted on 10/19/2013 at 07:57 AM
John Coltrane is the man you need to start listening to,especially A Love Supreme, also Wayne Shorter's albums including: Night Dreamer, Juju, Speak No Evil, Adam's Apple and The Soothsayer. Some of Roland Kirk's catalogue is worth deeper inspection. I also like Spectrum and Crosswinds by Billy Cobham, both great fusion efforts.
 

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  posted on 10/20/2013 at 10:17 AM
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Fusion I really like early Weather Report and the Joe Zwinul album Zawinul. Also I really like the Herbie Mann album Memphis Underground, also with Herbie look up Push Push which has Duane on it. Lots of great jazz out there


I like some of the early Jeff Lorber & Spyro Gyra.

I always liked Les McCann & Eddie Harris. I believe Chuck has covered this tune and maybe Warren?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRONbnyNpu8

 

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  posted on 10/20/2013 at 10:42 AM

 

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  posted on 10/20/2013 at 11:53 AM
1 - Be-Bop Gillespe/Parker (early stuff Shawnuf which is perhaps the earlies true bop record) and live at Massey Hall); Art Blakey Live at Birdland (a young Lou Donaldson as well as Clifford Brown

2 - Gillespe goes on a long time; afro-Cuban especially Manteca

3 - there is a will the circle-be-unbroken aspect to this. Davis played with Parker and then with Coltrane. He definitely had the shortest attention span as you can go in many directions at one time with his career turns. Davis and Weather report yes for Fusion; I would also listen to "The Mahavishnu Orchestra" (Inner Mounting Flames) an IMOER for two examples that are more into the Rock Side

4 - Listen to the solo by Louis Armstrong on Potato Head Blues when he was still a Jazzman - perhaps the first great jazz solo

5 - CTI records in the 70's had a lot of good easy listening stuff by Ron Carter; Stanley Turrentine and Freddie Hubard. Very accessible if not the best.

6 - Benny Goodman - listen to the very early live recording of "SIng SIng Sing" I think at Carnegie. It will blow you away. Artie Shaw (Beguine the Beguine and Frenesi). Those are the two swing era guys that were heading into a place the rest weren't.

7 - Sonny Rollins still has chops in his 80's. St. Thomas is the gold standard; CD from his recent 80th Bday concert at the Beacon is great. Dexter Gordon from the same era,
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  posted on 10/20/2013 at 12:53 PM
There's a ton of stuff you just can't go wrong with. My favorite Miles albums include Kind of Blue, Sketches of Spain, '58 Sessions and A Tribute to Jack Johnson. For Coltrane there's My Favorite Things, A Love Supreme, Blue Train, Soultrane, and Africa/Brass. I think of Africa/Brass as the Whipping Post of jazz. Red Clay by Freddie Hubbard is really great. So is Saxophone Colossus by Sonny Rollins.

If you're looking for something newer, check out Francisco Mela or Nicholas Payton or Maurice Brown. Mela is an NYC-based drummer who plays with McCoy Tyner often. His album Cirio with his own band is especially good. I have two really interesting albums by Payton- Gumbo Nouveau, which is sort of a traditional New Orleans jazz thing, and Sonic Trance, which is this great, funky, Bitches Brew kind of deal. Maurice Brown is the trumpet player for the Tedeschi Trucks Band and he has two traditional-ish jazz albums (Hip to Bop and Cycle of Love) and just put out what is basically a hip hip album that uses Cycle of Love as the basis for rap tracks.

 

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  posted on 10/20/2013 at 01:19 PM
Oh, and Percussion Bitter Sweet by Max Roach is outstanding.

 

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  posted on 10/20/2013 at 03:41 PM
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  posted on 10/20/2013 at 04:52 PM
You can't go wrong with anything by Art Blakey. Also my favorite trumpet player, Freddie Hubbard. I love the way that all these great jazz musicians played on each other's albums. On a lot of those blue note records it's like a "supergroup" was assembled for the sessions.

 

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  posted on 10/20/2013 at 05:36 PM


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  posted on 10/20/2013 at 07:19 PM
^^
great list
need some Bird
The Quintet Live at Massey Hall, Yardbird Suite(great "best of" 2 disc set) Charlie Parker on Dial or Charlie Parker on Savoy

other essential recordings-

Art Blakey - Moanin
Thelonius Monk and John Coltrane at Carnegie Hall
Bill Evans - Village Vanguard, the complete concert
Clifford Brown and Max Roach
Duke Ellington, Max Roach, and Charles Mingus - Money Jungle

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  posted on 10/20/2013 at 07:45 PM
Trane is my fav by far.. Followed by Brubeck

 

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  posted on 10/21/2013 at 06:35 AM
thanks for the heads up on the jazz musicians. i`ll be seeking them out soon. when i can pop into the town. or send for them off the net. even if i can faster than that.

 

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  posted on 10/21/2013 at 06:56 AM
I really like Thelonius Monk. I didn't see Stanley Clarke or Ron Carter mentioned. Gil Scott Heron often makes it to my Saturday morning playlist as do Wynton Marsalis (especially the "Soul Gestures in Southern Blue" series), Dexter Gordon, Lee Ritenour, Wes Montgomery, James Booker (New Orleans Junko Piano on par with Professor Longhair), Bob James...

"Jazz" has so many chapters, styles and genres it really depends on my mood.

 

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  posted on 10/21/2013 at 08:09 AM
For a change of pace, check out Mose Allison, a jazz/blues pianist who also sings. Mose has a dry wit that comes through in his songwriting - "Your Mind is on Vacation (And Your Mouth is Working Overtime") and "Your Molecular Structure." The latter is a love song using scientific terms. A good starting point is "Alllison iWonderland," a two-CD, 47-song anthology that came out on Rhino in 1991. It's a mix of studio and concert recordings that spans the 1950s through the 1980s.
 

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  posted on 10/22/2013 at 08:25 AM
ok i`ll check him out thanks for the heads up.

 

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  posted on 10/22/2013 at 09:37 AM
Start with some best-ofs - particularly the Blue Note ones from the 60s. Normally they are not expensive and you can get some accessible jazz. I like the following Blue Note ones as a starter kit (keep in mind I go for classic jazz more than fusion type):

Lee Morgan (my favorite trumpet player, you will recognize Sidewinder and his version of A Night in Tunisia is just great)

Art Blakely

McCoy Tyner (who blue my socks off in a trio format a festival about 6 years ago!)

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Miles Davis - Kind of Blue. Best selling jazz cd of all time featuring the Miles with Coltrane.

 

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  posted on 10/22/2013 at 09:42 AM
Django Rienhardt
 

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  posted on 10/22/2013 at 09:49 AM
Cannonball Adderley deserves to be mentioned. He was in Miles Davis' first great quintet and played on Kind of Blue. His album In Chicago is basically that same band without Miles Davis, and Mercy Mercy Mercy is really great.

 

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  posted on 10/22/2013 at 10:19 AM
if you are looking for fusion i suggest chick corea and return to forever,john mclaughlin,al dimeola,weather report among others
 

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  posted on 10/22/2013 at 10:29 AM
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Django Rienhardt


A special mention as Dickey wrote Jessica in his honor ( a song that could be played using only 3 fingers)

 

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  posted on 10/22/2013 at 11:00 AM
Solid thread.
Money saving tip that I find very useful - check out your public library. They may have many/some of the essential records listed above (many in iffy shape, however). Easy way to get a feel for what you like and don't like. sometimes you have to listen through quite a few times brfore you get it.
Love Supreme and Bitches Brew took a while to sink in for me.

Add a few more "recent" accessible albums:
Jaco complilation
Christian Mcbride
Gonzala Rubicalla (spelling way off)
80/81 Pat Methney live w/ Redman brothers
VSOP Quintet
Much of the Live at Village Vanguard series

 

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