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  posted on 10/10/2013 at 05:14 PM
This is from the feature in the latest issue of Hittin' The Note on the new Tedeschi/Trucks Band's record "Made Up Mind". Kind of blows me away that Duane's Fillmore amp is still being used, and it certainly is in the right hands!

"Tedeschi's solo on 'Whiskey Legs' and Trucks' solo on another song, 'Idle Wind,' feature a special element that should make fans of the late, great Allman Brothers guitarist take notice: Both are played through Duane's vintage 50-watt Marshall amplifier which he used on the At Fillmore East live recordings. Trucks acquired the amp through vintage gear dealer Ed Seelig. 'It has such a presence and a sound,' Trucks says. 'On the 'Idle Wind' solo it really helped that song go. It's a pretty special thing. I don't turn it on often because the tubes and transformers in there are old -- and that's really the personality of an amp, the transformers. If they go, it'll still sound great but it won't be the same. I'd never played it on a record before -- this was the first time it felt right.' "

[Edited on 10/11/2013 by robslob]

 

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  posted on 10/10/2013 at 08:56 PM
Wow - I'd love to get some details on that amp- is it the Bass or Lead model? Stock or modified? What tubes? etc.. There have been many debates over the years about this stuff - I didn't even know the head had survived intact. So glad it's in good hands!

 

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  posted on 10/11/2013 at 03:18 AM
A little more info (but probably not as much as you're hoping for!) here:

http://www2.gibson.com/News-Lifestyle/Features/en-us/Gibson-SG-Hero-Derek-T rucks-on-Made-Up-Mind.aspx

 

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  posted on 10/11/2013 at 05:02 AM
Very cool stuff.

 

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  posted on 10/11/2013 at 07:42 AM
That's pretty much the coolest thing I'll hear today.

 

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  posted on 10/11/2013 at 08:21 AM
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Wow - I'd love to get some details on that amp- is it the Bass or Lead model? Stock or modified? What tubes? etc.. There have been many debates over the years about this stuff - I didn't even know the head had survived intact. So glad it's in good hands!


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A little more info (but probably not as much as you're hoping for!) here:

http://www2.gibson.com/News-Lifestyle/Features/en-us/Gibson-SG-Hero-Derek-T rucks-on-Made-Up-Mind.aspx


Unfortunately this info only further muddies the waters:

"Another thing that Ed Seelig got for us, from George McCorkle of the Marshall Tucker Band, was Duane Allman’s 1961 Marshall amp that he used at the Fillmore. He found it a few years ago. So I played through that on “Idle Wind” and Susan used it on “Whiskey Legs.” It’s inspiring to go play through something like that."

As far as I know there's no way Duane used a "1961 Marshall". Production of the JTM45 started in 1962, and even that wouldn't make sense since everything I've ever read about Duane's amps was that he used 50 watt heads, which Marshall started making in 1965 (the "plexi" amps).

OK, Derek - time for some "show and tell"!

 

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  posted on 10/14/2013 at 09:28 AM
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Time for some show and tell


Ask and you shall receive!

[Edited on 10/14/2013 by DerekAndSusanBand]

 

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  posted on 10/14/2013 at 09:43 AM
A few notes on this amp from it's current and and former owner: first off, to be clear it's a '69 not a '61. Also, importantly, the serial number on the amp matches up with a gear manifest from an Allman Brothers show in Montreal that was played when Duane was still alive.

Here's a note from Ed with a little background about how and why the amp ended up with Derek:

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Regarding the '69 Duane Allman Marshall,I brought it to the sound check for a Derek Trucks Band - Eric Johnson show on 2/13/2001. I remember the date because Susan had flown in that day for Valentines Day, which was the following day. Derek tried it out backstage with his main SG, & it was undeniably, the Fillmore one. Very distinctive fullness & sustain. Derek used the amp for the encores when he, Susan, & Mike sat in with Eric's band. George McCorkle & I had several discussions about the appropriate thing to do with the amp when it was time to pass it along, & we both agreed that for a variety of reasons, it would go to Derek. Over 10 years later, we worked out a deal that puts the amp where it should stay. I am happy to hear that it was used on this album.


Here's some pics of the amp at the studio:







 

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  posted on 10/14/2013 at 11:10 AM
Really cool info and pictures. Thanks for responding!!

 

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  posted on 10/14/2013 at 11:11 AM
That's so cool. I've been thinking that Made Up Mind captures Derek's guitar tone better than dTb/TTB's older albums and Idle Wild is a great example. You don't just hear the notes, you hear the amp working and it sounds very textured and alive.

 

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  posted on 10/14/2013 at 11:22 AM
y'all just gave me chill bumps..

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  posted on 10/14/2013 at 11:28 AM
thanks for the cool pics and info...
 

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  posted on 10/14/2013 at 12:09 PM
bad to the bone, glad it's flown back home

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  posted on 10/14/2013 at 12:17 PM
That's so cool! Right from the horses mouth so to speak. That tone on Whiskey Legs is vicious!

Thanks for the pics and the detailed reply!!

 

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  posted on 10/14/2013 at 02:46 PM
This.

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y'all just gave me chill bumps..

goodness gracious




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  posted on 10/14/2013 at 03:41 PM
Thanks for posting this!, good stuff!.

 

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  posted on 10/14/2013 at 04:33 PM
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A few notes on this amp from it's current and and former owner: first off, to be clear it's a '69 not a '61. Also, importantly, the serial number on the amp matches up with a gear manifest from an Allman Brothers show in Montreal that was played when Duane was still alive.

Here's a note from Ed with a little background about how and why the amp ended up with Derek:

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Regarding the '69 Duane Allman Marshall,I brought it to the sound check for a Derek Trucks Band - Eric Johnson show on 2/13/2001. I remember the date because Susan had flown in that day for Valentines Day, which was the following day. Derek tried it out backstage with his main SG, & it was undeniably, the Fillmore one. Very distinctive fullness & sustain. Derek used the amp for the encores when he, Susan, & Mike sat in with Eric's band. George McCorkle & I had several discussions about the appropriate thing to do with the amp when it was time to pass it along, & we both agreed that for a variety of reasons, it would go to Derek. Over 10 years later, we worked out a deal that puts the amp where it should stay. I am happy to hear that it was used on this album.



Very cool thread and info, thanks!

In past discussions about Duane's amp rig it has been confusing for some in that the 50 watt Marshall "bass" head(s) Duane used are "model 1961" that's the model name from Marshall. So it's a Marshall model 1961 50 watt bass head and the year of Duane's was built in 1969. The other tidbit is that he used 2-marshall 1961 heads "daisy chained" together to drive the double stacked marshall speaker cabs. So in reality this is just 1 of the 2 marshall heads that he used to create his fillmore sound along with his guitar pickups, cabinet speaker type, his playing technique, a split "Y" guitar chord, etc... Duane knew tone!

a couple pics of that show the heads stacked on top of one another.







[Edited on 10/14/2013 by Slimzimm]

 

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  posted on 10/14/2013 at 05:02 PM
Even more cool pics, thanks Slim.

Wonder where the other head is?

 

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  posted on 10/14/2013 at 06:24 PM
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Ask and you shall receive!

[Edited on 10/14/2013 by DerekAndSusanBand]


I think it would be really nice if Devon Allman got to play a little something thu that, cause contrary to the age old rumor that Derek is Duane reincarnated, I've long held the belief that if he did come back, he'd come back as an Allman, and Devon loved him as much as you all do.

 

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  posted on 10/14/2013 at 09:19 PM
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A few notes on this amp from it's current and and former owner: first off, to be clear it's a '69 not a '61. Also, importantly, the serial number on the amp matches up with a gear manifest from an Allman Brothers show in Montreal that was played when Duane was still alive.

Here's a note from Ed with a little background about how and why the amp ended up with Derek:

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Regarding the '69 Duane Allman Marshall,I brought it to the sound check for a Derek Trucks Band - Eric Johnson show on 2/13/2001. I remember the date because Susan had flown in that day for Valentines Day, which was the following day. Derek tried it out backstage with his main SG, & it was undeniably, the Fillmore one. Very distinctive fullness & sustain. Derek used the amp for the encores when he, Susan, & Mike sat in with Eric's band. George McCorkle & I had several discussions about the appropriate thing to do with the amp when it was time to pass it along, & we both agreed that for a variety of reasons, it would go to Derek. Over 10 years later, we worked out a deal that puts the amp where it should stay. I am happy to hear that it was used on this album.


WOW!!! Thanks for the info and pics. I have lurked on the forum for years but never really posted but I can't resist this thread. I'm a bit of a gear nut especially when it comes to the brothers, and Duane and Dickey were my biggest influences. That amp couldn't be in better hands and I was glad to hear it on the new TTB album. That amp holds the answers to so many theories and speculations that so many people have debated over for years. I'm sure you are not going to reveal all it's secrets but I would love to get a few more details if you don't mind sharing. First would be confirmation of it being a bass spec model 1986 (Slim you were right about everything except for the model number). Also I can see that it was modified with some extra speaker jacks, but are there other modifications. I've read that Derek mentioned it having old Ampeg style tubes. This would make sense because there have been rumors that Duane had some amps that were modified by Dennis Kager. And my last question would be is it tube rectified or solid state? Thanks in advance if you don't mind sharing more info

[Edited on 10/15/2013 by 4everLiveskydog]

 

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  posted on 10/14/2013 at 11:00 PM
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[Edited on 10/14/2013 by DerekAndSusanBand]


I think it would be really nice if Devon Allman got to play a little something thu that, cause contrary to the age old rumor that Derek is Duane reincarnated, I've long held the belief that if he did come back, he'd come back as an Allman, and Devon loved him as much as you all do.


X2 and Devon at times looks like Duane on stage,
Question Gina, is that Duane's original guitar strap the Devon uses all the time?

 

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A few notes on this amp from it's current and and former owner: first off, to be clear it's a '69 not a '61. Also, importantly, the serial number on the amp matches up with a gear manifest from an Allman Brothers show in Montreal that was played when Duane was still alive.

Here's a note from Ed with a little background about how and why the amp ended up with Derek:

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Regarding the '69 Duane Allman Marshall,I brought it to the sound check for a Derek Trucks Band - Eric Johnson show on 2/13/2001. I remember the date because Susan had flown in that day for Valentines Day, which was the following day. Derek tried it out backstage with his main SG, & it was undeniably, the Fillmore one. Very distinctive fullness & sustain. Derek used the amp for the encores when he, Susan, & Mike sat in with Eric's band. George McCorkle & I had several discussions about the appropriate thing to do with the amp when it was time to pass it along, & we both agreed that for a variety of reasons, it would go to Derek. Over 10 years later, we worked out a deal that puts the amp where it should stay. I am happy to hear that it was used on this album.


WOW!!! Thanks for the info and pics. I have lurked on the forum for years but never really posted but I can't resist this thread. I'm a bit of a gear nut especially when it comes to the brothers, and Duane and Dickey were my biggest influences. That amp couldn't be in better hands and I was glad to hear it on the new TTB album. That amp holds the answers to so many theories and speculations that so many people have debated over for years. I'm sure you are not going to reveal all it's secrets but I would love to get a few more details if you don't mind sharing. First would be confirmation of it being a bass spec model 1986 (Slim you were right about everything except for the model number). Also I can see that it was modified with some extra speaker jacks, but are there other modifications. I've read that Derek mentioned it having old Ampeg style tubes. This would make sense because there have been rumors that Duane had some amps that were modified by Dennis Kager. And my last question would be is it tube rectified or solid state? Thanks in advance if you don't mind sharing more info

[Edited on 10/15/2013 by 4everLiveskydog]


Whoops, I meant 1986 not 1961...hope you get some feedback, interesting thread.

 

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  posted on 10/15/2013 at 02:59 AM
Great info... Loved seeing that.

Anyway, am I the only guy who flinches when I see those pics of Duane's two marshall's not even 5 feet from Jaimoe's ears? Man, how that guy hears anything at all these days is quite the miracle! Same with Butch!

 

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  posted on 10/15/2013 at 08:49 AM
Jason..this friday night,,Oct 18th HOB 9pm

 

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