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  posted on 10/10/2013 at 02:43 PM
http://www.jambase.com/Articles/119649/Flashback-Allman-Brothers-Band-Perfo rm-Mountain-Jam-With-Herring

pretty cool article and little bit of history. the video isnt the greatest but the audio and playing is good.

 

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  posted on 10/10/2013 at 03:02 PM
Thanks for posting... this is smoking. Remarkable that it was the first song played with Jimmy... and always good to remember the song was gone for ~20 years.

 

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  posted on 10/10/2013 at 03:31 PM
I haven't heard them - but I thought there were a couple of Mountain Jams when Dickey came back from his '93 hiatus in November that year. Can anyone confirm/deny hearing them. The Live Show Database lists them as full Mountain Jam - did they happen?

I would gleefully shell out for a box set of the Herring Tour 2000 - or even an archival release of some of those shows - but I presume that won't be happening.

The night after the video linked - June 25, 2000 is the last True Gravity - another song way too good to sit on the shelf for 13+ years. Hope it gets dusted off during whatever happens for the 45th next year.

[Edited on 10/10/2013 by slothrop8]

 

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  posted on 10/10/2013 at 03:34 PM
The 9/23/2000 Raleigh show w Jimmy is one of my favorite ABB recordings ever. And I'm really not that big of a Herring fan. Amazing talent, just usually not my cup of tea.

That show, and the 5/1/96 Greenville, SC show. Dreams into Back Where it All Begins.........

 

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  posted on 10/10/2013 at 03:42 PM
slothrop - I think those Fall 1993 shows just contained longer than usual segues into Mountain Jam but not a long MJ from start to finish.

The ABB were definitely sending a message by opening with this one in 2000.

 

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  posted on 10/10/2013 at 03:54 PM
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The ABB were definitely sending a message by opening with this one in 2000.


yes there were. and what a statement they made!

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That show, and the 5/1/96 Greenville, SC show. Dreams into Back Where it All Begins.........


any links??!!

 

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  posted on 10/10/2013 at 04:09 PM
The 1993 Mountain Jams were not just teases or segues but separate stand alone versions of the song. That said they were only about 7 - 10 minutes long at best and not stellar versions either.

Some GREAT shows in 93 but the MJs were not the highlight.

 

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  posted on 10/10/2013 at 05:43 PM
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slothrop - I think those Fall 1993 shows just contained longer than usual segues into Mountain Jam but not a long MJ from start to finish.

The ABB were definitely sending a message by opening with this one in 2000.


2004 Great Woods -- kicked off the show w/MJam, segued into Afro Blue, on and on -- this and the previous night at Meadowbrook were among this lineup's best shows IMHO

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  posted on 10/10/2013 at 07:45 PM
When Jimmy and Derek play together it is just magic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ia2unDpnDw

as one comment there says 'master and student of the same mind"

 

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  posted on 10/10/2013 at 07:46 PM
It's funny that you started this thread, because I was contemplating starting a similar one after listening to The Last Epic Jimmy/Derek Mountain Jam, which would be the 10/3/09 Charlotte show.

Warren missed his plane to Charlotte due to some odd reason, and Gregg has recently hurt himself and was not at full strength, so the 10/3/09 show was a unique circumstance. I believe Gregg only sang at this show, and didn't play any keys. Kofi Burbridge and Bruce Katz helped out on keys during the Charlotte run that year, helping to fill out the band.

This was during the ABB/Widespread Panic part of the 40th Anniversary tour, so Jimmy was enlisted to help fill out the ABB's portion of the show. With no Warren and Gregg not at 100%, the basic task of filling 2 hours on stage was not easy, but a 30 minute Mountain Jam to open helped pass the time

The show as a whole isn't the greatest, as Gregg's half-there status and Warren's complete absence are tough to overcome. But that Mountain Jam...yeah, that is something special. You really can't go wrong with Derek and Jimmy together, regardless of the musical context.

The 9/23/00 Mountain Jam is the cream of the crop from 2000, in my humble opinion. Defintely a must-hear for those who haven't heard it already. The crowning moment of the whole Derek/Jimmy experiment.

 
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  posted on 10/11/2013 at 10:53 AM
Didn't do it for me, Jimmy's playing takes on a kind of "John Popper" mentality...toooo many notes, played way tooo fast.

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  posted on 10/11/2013 at 11:03 AM
@BigV - Funny. I am a charter member of the Jimmy Fan Club and the John Popper unfan club. I grit my teeth when I see the latter approaching the ABB stage.

We all process this stuff differently. Like the version or not, I think it was a remarkable move to play this song as the first show without Dickey.

Some cool stories about the summer 2000 tour from Jimmy, Oteil, Derek in One Way Out.

[Edited on 10/11/2013 by AlPaul]

 

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  posted on 10/11/2013 at 11:36 AM
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The 9/23/2000 Raleigh show w Jimmy is one of my favorite ABB recordings ever. And I'm really not that big of a Herring fan. Amazing talent, just usually not my cup of tea.

That show, and the 5/1/96 Greenville, SC show. Dreams into Back Where it All Begins.........



I always hoped (and still do) that the 9/23/00 show would be released as the next archival cd...amazing show.

 

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  posted on 10/11/2013 at 12:41 PM
I've asked it before and i'll ask it again: If there is a better Les Brers than 9/23/00 then let me know. I want it!

Somebody from this site sent me that show back in 2001 or 2002 when all I was looking for was the 2001 Chicago show that I went to, the one with Pinetop Perkins. I am forever grateful for the 9/23/00 add-in "because I just had to have it" they said. I have passed it on a few more times since then.

 

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  posted on 10/11/2013 at 07:30 PM
I got it sent to me for basically the same reason - Ron Can'tRecallHisLastName from the Carolinas, was a longtime member of the ABB listserv group when it was going strong. I don't spend enough time here to know, but I imagine he's here, too.


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I've asked it before and i'll ask it again: If there is a better Les Brers than 9/23/00 then let me know. I want it!

Somebody from this site sent me that show back in 2001 or 2002 when all I was looking for was the 2001 Chicago show that I went to, the one with Pinetop Perkins. I am forever grateful for the 9/23/00 add-in "because I just had to have it" they said. I have passed it on a few more times since then.



 

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  posted on 10/17/2013 at 10:45 AM
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The 9/23/2000 Raleigh show w Jimmy is one of my favorite ABB recordings ever. And I'm really not that big of a Herring fan. Amazing talent, just usually not my cup of tea.

That show, and the 5/1/96 Greenville, SC show. Dreams into Back Where it All Begins.........



9/23/00 in Raleigh was my first ABB show ever!

 
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