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  posted on 8/24/2013 at 05:41 AM
Statesboro Blues
Done Soebody Wrong
Midnight Rider
Hot Lanta
Feel Like Breaking Up Somebodys Home
Desdemona
Trouble No More
Melissa
Dusk Til Dawn
Revival
Liz Reed
Into The Mystic
One Way Out
encore:
Blue Sky
Southbound

Exceptional show, about 2 hours 20 minutes

 

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  posted on 8/24/2013 at 06:13 AM
thank you Kgun
 

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  posted on 8/24/2013 at 06:17 AM
de nada....
Anyone else attend? Just wondering others opinions...compared to last summer's run, Gregg in exceptional form, Warren consummate band leader, Oteil very playful, drummers solid and Derek as chill as I've seen him....that's a good thing btw.
Actually shocked by length of set...Winwood was solid but played maybe 70 minutes or so.

 

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  posted on 8/24/2013 at 07:11 AM

I dont think they played done somebody wrong... but not positive

Solid show- super stoked that we got a Desdemona..

Greg missed some cues throughout the night, Derek was low in the mix (from the lawn anyway) and it seemed as if they were having a couple tech issues through the night. Seemed like a 'Warren Night'.

Crowd was great although i must say i have never seen the lawn this empty at any Darien Lake show... hope they come back.

Winwood rocked

[Edited on 8/24/2013 by Joe5986]

 

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  posted on 8/24/2013 at 07:23 AM
i was pumped we got a nice long show... into the mystic and blue sky made my wife and I happy, in fact I was pretty shocked to see a blue sky encore.. that really suprised me. Was hoping Winwood would come out.. I thought all the deliberation pre-encore was about getting Winwood up. Oh well.

I think they had a hard time getting into the pocket last night... I will have to listen back to recording but I got the impression Derek was having issues getting what he wanted out of his guitar and kept going from finger to slide and back but maybe that's his thing now.. I know he will often switch but never really seen him switch back and forth a few times like he did last night.

We got out of there really easily and headed over to Rochester to hit the Dino BBQ.. Dead cover band playing and it was a great way to end the night. Now trying to figure out if we're going to suck it up and head down to Hartford because we missed Winwood. Took us, no **** , 5 hours from Toronto door to door yesterday. I knew it was going to be bad because we couldn't leave until 2:30 but didn't really expect that. I pulled into a gas station on the US side and I swear I was running on fumes.

 

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  posted on 8/24/2013 at 07:28 AM
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i have never seen the lawn this empty


This is what happens when you don't cater to your fans.

How about allowing downloading of recorded shows?

How about allowing streaming of shows?

How about a free download of the show with every ticket stub?

How about $5 for a soundboard of the show with every ticket stub?

How about posting set lists in real time on the web site?


They need to look at bands like Phish, Furthur, Phil & Friends and what Bob Weir is doing with TRI Studios and take a clue from what these guys are doing. They need to hook the fans up, and they are not doing it.

There is a reason this web site is virtually on life support and they only have themselves to blame.

Get it together guys and step into electronic age and get on board, otherwise, they are going to be relegated to doing "An evening with" Theater tours and the sheds won't want them. There is a reason they have to team up with bands like WSP and Ratdog, those bands bring the fans.

It is sad and hard to watch this decline when this band is on the top of their game and can still really bring it. Maybe they will figure it out, but I doubt it.

 

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  posted on 8/24/2013 at 07:36 AM
hit it on the head JPB!!!!

IMHO there were more people in the lawn for Winwood than there were for Allmans, and that is sad

 

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  posted on 8/24/2013 at 09:26 AM
Sorry song 2 was Don't Keep Me Wonderin' not done somebody wrong...my bad!

 

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  posted on 8/24/2013 at 09:42 AM
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i have never seen the lawn this empty


This is what happens when you don't cater to your fans.

How about allowing downloading of recorded shows?

How about allowing streaming of shows?

How about a free download of the show with every ticket stub?

How about $5 for a soundboard of the show with every ticket stub?

How about posting set lists in real time on the web site?


They need to look at bands like Phish, Furthur, Phil & Friends and what Bob Weir is doing with TRI Studios and take a clue from what these guys are doing. They need to hook the fans up, and they are not doing it.

There is a reason this web site is virtually on life support and they only have themselves to blame.

Get it together guys and step into electronic age and get on board, otherwise, they are going to be relegated to doing "An evening with" Theater tours and the sheds won't want them. There is a reason they have to team up with bands like WSP and Ratdog, those bands bring the fans.

It is sad and hard to watch this decline when this band is on the top of their game and can still really bring it. Maybe they will figure it out, but I doubt it.




Can we get an oline petition going here in the forum to try and see if we can get the band and their management to reconsider the electronic trading so we can start trrention all of our great old recordings for the world to share? How do we get things changed and updated by the band and their mangement? Their old ways are out of date and it is sad.

 

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  posted on 8/24/2013 at 09:52 AM
Blue Sky encore? That is unusual. Maybe that has happened before, but none spring to mind.

jerryphilbob makes some good points about the ABB's utter lack of interest in connecting with their fans, promoting themselves to new fans, or other basic Marketing 101 stuff that every other band on Earth does. It's a shame if the turnout was low on a Friday night at what has historically been a strong venue for the ABB, but in many ways they only have themselves to blame.


 
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  posted on 8/24/2013 at 10:03 AM
great show @Darian I thought Greg sounded stronger than Ive heard him in a while.Warren had a great night. All in all a strong performance reason for another instant live
 

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  posted on 8/24/2013 at 10:54 AM
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This is what happens when you don't cater to your fans.

How about allowing downloading of recorded shows?

How about allowing streaming of shows?

How about a free download of the show with every ticket stub?

How about $5 for a soundboard of the show with every ticket stub?

How about posting set lists in real time on the web site?


They need to look at bands like Phish, Furthur, Phil & Friends and what Bob Weir is doing with TRI Studios and take a clue from what these guys are doing. They need to hook the fans up, and they are not doing it.

There is a reason this web site is virtually on life support and they only have themselves to blame.

Get it together guys and step into electronic age and get on board, otherwise, they are going to be relegated to doing "An evening with" Theater tours and the sheds won't want them. There is a reason they have to team up with bands like WSP and Ratdog, those bands bring the fans.

It is sad and hard to watch this decline when this band is on the top of their game and can still really bring it. Maybe they will figure it out, but I doubt it.


Spot on JPB! I'm an old cuss, set in my ways with many shows under my belt. Yet even I recognize the value of being connected in this day and age. There is no buzz around the ABB.

I really feel like they are going to throw in the towel after the 45th Beacon run. That's too bad because I feel they are, without question, one of the greatest live bands in existence.

 

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  posted on 8/24/2013 at 11:15 AM
We were delayed 30 minutes due to a car fire on the Thruway so we didn't get to the lot before 5 p.m.

I was stunned to see so few cars for a Friday show with a 6:30 start.

Last year we were early and parked way in back.

This year we were only a few rows of cars away from the gate.

On the plus side we were only one row away from Karen & Lynn so we had some quality tailgate time.

 

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  posted on 8/24/2013 at 11:17 AM
Great show! We got our Desdemona, my wife's favourite ABB song; a perfect way to celebrate our 16th wedding anniversary! The Blue Sky was the cherry on a sweet, romantic evening spent boogieing under the stars!

I thought it was uneven in parts, Gregg's organ solo on Liz Reed for instance... it tried to end but the band didn't catch what I thought was a hapless cue; he played the standard organ part, but it seemed lacklustre and almost out of no where, so the band missed it. They built up to it nicely afterwards on the second try though, so no loss. I am listening to the IL now, but haven't got to that part yet.

 

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  posted on 8/24/2013 at 11:38 AM
I forgot to mention how much I like Dusk Till Dawn... really cool vibe from that one, I'm so happy I grabbed the IL, this one song makes it worth it!
The IL has great sound for anyone concerned about that aspect.

 

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  posted on 8/24/2013 at 04:46 PM
I was disappointed to hear that Winwood didn't join the ABB for a tune. I figured a "Can't Find My Way Home" or "Presence of the Lord" would be a given.

 

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  posted on 8/24/2013 at 04:58 PM
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This is what happens when you don't cater to your fans.

How about allowing downloading of recorded shows?

How about allowing streaming of shows?

How about a free download of the show with every ticket stub?

How about $5 for a soundboard of the show with every ticket stub?

How about posting set lists in real time on the web site?


They need to look at bands like Phish, Furthur, Phil & Friends and what Bob Weir is doing with TRI Studios and take a clue from what these guys are doing. They need to hook the fans up, and they are not doing it.

There is a reason this web site is virtually on life support and they only have themselves to blame.

Get it together guys and step into electronic age and get on board, otherwise, they are going to be relegated to doing "An evening with" Theater tours and the sheds won't want them. There is a reason they have to team up with bands like WSP and Ratdog, those bands bring the fans.

It is sad and hard to watch this decline when this band is on the top of their game and can still really bring it. Maybe they will figure it out, but I doubt it.


Spot on JPB! I'm an old cuss, set in my ways with many shows under my belt. Yet even I recognize the value of being connected in this day and age. There is no buzz around the ABB.

I really feel like they are going to throw in the towel after the 45th Beacon run. That's too bad because I feel they are, without question, one of the greatest live bands in existence.


Good points, however, I'll take "An Evening with" Theater tour over a shed every time. There was plenty of buzz at the shows in Chicago this week, but your point about lack of marketing is spot on. Clapton pumps out his X-Roads videos within 3-4 months, while the 2009 40th Anniversary Beacon Run was 4 and 1/2 years ago now, and they still have not released a video. Perhaps if Derek and/or Warren were as interested in this band as their own endeavors things would have been better with regard to new ABB material and promoting the band through current methods. And after what I just saw this week, I agree- this band is at the top of their game. They need new management that is "with clue".

 

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  posted on 8/24/2013 at 05:02 PM
^^^
agreed.
they don't really have any way of getting new fans. I have no problem getting all the Allmans I want from either buying it or the trade section of this site (thanks everyone). Allowing digital downloads of audience recordings on bt would potentially open up a lot of new folks to the music.
Just ask the Grateful Dead, Phil, Phish, Mule, and lots of other bands.

some people call that giving your stuff away, some people call that marketing.

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  posted on 8/24/2013 at 07:26 PM
I get the distinct feeling they're not going to change.
I'm happy if they are. I will still catch an occasional show.
I've been seeing them nonstop in one form or another since 1973.
I've gotten my moneys worth.
Get to a certain age, and it stops becoming about money. It becomes about staying healthy and being happy. About life.

 

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  posted on 8/24/2013 at 11:41 PM
Brothers are on a roll. Darien was great including Greggs unintentional extended solo on Liz Reed. It started last summer, continued , at The Beacon and it seems they have taken it to a new level this summer. Crowd last night was louder and more energetic than I've seen at a Brothers show in quite some time. For the record this was my 8th show this year.
 

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  posted on 8/25/2013 at 02:21 AM
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....Darien was great including Greggs unintentional extended solo on Liz Reed. It started last summer, continued , at The Beacon and it seems they have taken it to a new level this summer.


WOW!!!! That is an extended solo....

 

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  posted on 8/25/2013 at 06:20 AM
Just looking at the set lists it seems to me that if they played for 2 hours and 20 minutes that must have had to have been a seriously long Liz Reed.

I am not convinced poor marketing etc. is ABB's management's problem as much as it may be Gregg and/or the band members. I have seen JNB post on here many times about wanting to do this or that and things just keep getting vetoed. Also, I have heard for years about how Phil Walden ripped off the band and - granted I do not know half the details - yet when I talk to people in the music industry about some of the terms the ABB got from Phil that the band complains about, such as 8% royalties on their Capricorn albums, I hear from music pros that this was actually a pretty good rate back then. Makes me wonder if the band has unrealistic expectations and therefore will not agree to anything.

I agree ONE THOUSAND PERCENT they need to do more live streaming and digital promotion. Moogis was fantastic for the Beacon and Peach festival and now it is like a crap-shoot-obstacle course trying to find an aud stream. Disaster.

They also need to do some more archive releases! Not just Duane stuff but how about things like DVD of the entire Great Woods 91 show?? How about some earlier Beacon Shows from '07, '06 or any of those years.

Most of all they need new material. Warren can't keep carrying the band. He has done a great job, but I think it would help if some one else came in with AT LEAST some cover suggestions. Even better if someone were to suggest a cover with a unique arrangement idea. Other than Warren, I have flat out years-ago given up on any new original material. That just aint gunna happen. Point is: they need a much larger song selection. All the other bands mentioned here do and that keeps it interesting.

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  posted on 8/25/2013 at 07:33 AM
Another year where I enjoyed the Allman Brothers Band at Darien Lake. That said I agree with many of the comments made here on this thread.

One of the reason I keep coming back to Allman Bros gigs is because I hope to hear something I've never heard before from a previous gig. Last night I got 3 songs Albert King's "Feel Like Breakin' Up Somebody's Home," Warren Haynes new "Dusk 'til Dawn" & Van Morrison's "Into the Mystic." I was happy to hear all three, but it seems for the most part what I hear that is a debut performance for me comes from Warren. I love Warren but I also hear new material from his other bands, Gov't Mule, the Warren Haynes Band, Warren solo, even the Dead & Phil Lesh & Friends. Where's the new songs from Gregg Allman or even Oteil Burbridge or Derek Trucks picking a new instrumental? At last years Darien Lake gig all the songs were repeats, which made that show less distinct and therefore less special even if they played well.

It's two years in a row where the Allman Brothers Band open a co-headlining tour at Darien Lake. Last year with Santana & this year with Steve Winwood. Both times neither acts shared with stage with each other. Last year Santana later in the tour came out to share the stage with the Allman Bros and Warren & Derek shared the stage with Santana. If Winwood begins to come out with the Allman Bros as this tour goes on then that's disappointing to the Darien fans. Maybe next year if Darien Lake is later on a co-headlining tour it'll draw up more excitement? It would have been easy for Winwood to play "Presence of The Lord" with the Allman Bros as that's a song I've seen Warren do with the Mule. Also with all the blues numbers Winwood has performed in recent years with Eric Clapton there was no shortage to what he and the Allman Bros could have done together.

"Blue Skies" was a nice surprise as I haven't heard that since the days with Dickey Betts. All in all it was another good night with the Allman Brothers Band.



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"Perhaps if Derek and/or Warren were as interested in this band as their own endeavors things would have been better with regard to new ABB material and promoting the band through current methods."

This premise is neatly contradicted by another post in this thread....

"it seems for the most part what I hear that is a debut performance for me comes from Warren."

"Where's the new songs from Gregg Allman"

Good question.

"or even Oteil Burbridge or Derek Trucks picking a new instrumental?"

Oteil and Derek have written/co-written two great instrumentals, Egypt and Bag End, but they rarely get played. Why should they work hard to bring material to the table if it's just going to be ignored?

 
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  posted on 8/25/2013 at 10:33 AM
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Another year where I enjoyed the Allman Brothers Band at Darien Lake. That said I agree with many of the comments made here on this thread.

One of the reason I keep coming back to Allman Bros gigs is because I hope to hear something I've never heard before from a previous gig. Last night I got 3 songs Albert King's "Feel Like Breakin' Up Somebody's Home," Warren Haynes new "Dusk 'til Dawn" & Van Morrison's "Into the Mystic." I was happy to hear all three, but it seems for the most part what I hear that is a debut performance for me comes from Warren. I love Warren but I also hear new material from his other bands, Gov't Mule, the Warren Haynes Band, Warren solo, even the Dead & Phil Lesh & Friends. Where's the new songs from Gregg Allman or even Oteil Burbridge or Derek Trucks picking a new instrumental? At last years Darien Lake gig all the songs were repeats, which made that show less distinct and therefore less special even if they played well.

It's two years in a row where the Allman Brothers Band open a co-headlining tour at Darien Lake. Last year with Santana & this year with Steve Winwood. Both times neither acts shared with stage with each other. Last year Santana later in the tour came out to share the stage with the Allman Bros and Warren & Derek shared the stage with Santana. If Winwood begins to come out with the Allman Bros as this tour goes on then that's disappointing to the Darien fans. Maybe next year if Darien Lake is later on a co-headlining tour it'll draw up more excitement? It would have been easy for Winwood to play "Presence of The Lord" with the Allman Bros as that's a song I've seen Warren do with the Mule. Also with all the blues numbers Winwood has performed in recent years with Eric Clapton there was no shortage to what he and the Allman Bros could have done together.

"Blue Skies" was a nice surprise as I haven't heard that since the days with Dickey Betts. All in all it was another good night with the Allman Brothers Band.



[Edited on 8/25/2013 by TimmyB707]


Sorry you did not get a Winwood sit-in, but thanks for confirming my memory that Santana also did not join the band the first few shows last yr. Perhaps it takes a while to work out/practice what they are going to collaborate on. I sure hope it's not royalty issues for the IL.

I think a Winwood appearance at the end and encore would be great, and doubly solve the same old stale 4 encore song issue.

Cool to see Had to Cry Today in Steve's setlist. Have not seen that in the last 3 shows of his I've seen the last 5 yrs. Did play it w/ EC though in '08.

 
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