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  posted on 7/17/2013 at 06:07 PM


To put the POS that blew up Boston Marathan, that injured so many, legless, wounded, lives changed forever.
To put him on the cover on Rolling Stone.

HOW STUPID IS THIS?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!??!!?

A disgrace.


Well, with his fame, not just give him fortune too.

[Edited on 7/17/2013 by SGirl]

 
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  posted on 7/17/2013 at 06:13 PM
I believe that they have withdrawn that cover but still it has been considered and that is equally bad in my mind.

 

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  posted on 7/17/2013 at 06:14 PM

 

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  posted on 7/17/2013 at 06:16 PM
Wasn't Charles Manson on the cover of many magazines?

 

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  posted on 7/17/2013 at 06:30 PM
so was mark david chapman..the thing is the story is probably a sob story about what a lousy childhood he had
 

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  posted on 7/17/2013 at 09:01 PM
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the thing is the story is probably a sob story about what a lousy childhood he had


I don't know. I haven't read it but Rolling Stone has published some pretty hard hitting works of journalism recently.

 

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  posted on 7/17/2013 at 09:15 PM
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the thing is the story is probably a sob story about what a lousy childhood he had


I don't know. I haven't read it but Rolling Stone has published some pretty hard hitting works of journalism recently.


The whole story deals with how the boy next door became a monster.

Lots of knee jerk hand wringing over the cover.

Charlie Manson was on the cover in 1970.

I'm amazed at how "outraged" people get without thinking about context, content, the big picture, etc.

 

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  posted on 7/17/2013 at 09:40 PM
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I'm amazed at how "outraged" people get without thinking about context, content, the big picture, etc.


Amazement shared.

I'm actually pretty burned out on all the media. Music during the day. Film, television (I try for quality TV, if I can't get quality I go mindless) and books at night. I used to watch the Talking Heads, the pundits but can no longer handle the continual stream of horrors excreted from their mouths. Nobody has the answers and even with answers there are no leaders.

 

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  posted on 7/17/2013 at 09:56 PM
I think the outrage that a lot of people have regarding the Rolling Stone cover is that it looks almost like a glamorous shot of a young rock star, actor, or poet. The media has shown other RS covers that were considered controversial. The Charles Manson one doesn't strike me as being glamorous in the same way as the Boston bomber's photo. Most of the other photos used as examples by the media are sexually provocative, which is subjective. I personally feel that this cover is in bad taste and insensitive to the victim's families. I think there may be some valid concerns that this could glorify to some extent this young man or cause people who are unstable to feel that they may get recognition if they commit atrocities. I believe in freedom of the press and that RS had the right to publish the cover. I also believe in the power of the consumer. I will think twice about supporting Rolling Stone in the future.
 

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  posted on 7/17/2013 at 09:59 PM
^^
agreed. This is still a very open and sore wound in Boston. I have no problem with an article about the guy (and no one complained about the article) but they made him look like a rock star.
It's being pulled off a lot of shelves in the area.

 

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  posted on 7/18/2013 at 04:54 AM
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I think the outrage that a lot of people have regarding the Rolling Stone cover is that it looks almost like a glamorous shot of a young rock star, actor, or poet. The media has shown other RS covers that were considered controversial. The Charles Manson one doesn't strike me as being glamorous in the same way as the Boston bomber's photo. Most of the other photos used as examples by the media are sexually provocative, which is subjective. I personally feel that this cover is in bad taste and insensitive to the victim's families. I think there may be some valid concerns that this could glorify to some extent this young man or cause people who are unstable to feel that they may get recognition if they commit atrocities. I believe in freedom of the press and that RS had the right to publish the cover. I also believe in the power of the consumer. I will think twice about supporting Rolling Stone in the future.


Agreed. Spot on.

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  posted on 7/18/2013 at 04:59 AM
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I'm amazed at how "outraged" people get without thinking about context, content, the big picture, etc.


Amazement shared.


^ This amazes me. You do remember why this piece of sh*t is currently incarcerated?

 

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I think the outrage that a lot of people have regarding the Rolling Stone cover is that it looks almost like a glamorous shot of a young rock star, actor, or poet.

Exactly. That is where the outrage is coming from, for the most part. Rolling Stone has never shied away from publishing controversial matrerial and producing covers with shock value. The editors must have thought they struck gold with this shot (a "selfie" that he liked it so much that he used as the profile pic on his Facebook page, he must be over the moon that it is on the cover of RS). It is such a "good" shot that it looks like it was set up by hollywood stylists and photographed by a rock star shooter. Between the designer t-shirt, the tousled hair and the Jim Morrison look on his face, the image says “All-American disaffected youth” and goes well with the "he was a victim too" theme of the article, which makes me literally feel ill. Roilling Stone has insulted and disrespected anyone who was affected by the conscious choice this animal made to kill and maim as many people as he could, and should spark outrage in all Americans not just those of us who live in or have roots in Boston.

No one is saying the RS doesn't have the right to publish the article or even put this black-hearted murderer on the cover, but we all have the right to react to it as well and I guarantee they knew that there would be a strong reaction and in fact I am absolutely certain that is why they did this cover. But just because they have the right to do it, doesn't make it the right thing to do.

The Mayor of Boston has had the best reaction that I have seen yet...








[Edited on 7/18/2013 by gondicar]

 

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  posted on 7/18/2013 at 07:45 AM
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I will think twice about supporting Rolling Stone in the future.


well at least you had no problem with charles manson or mark david chapman being on the cover.......why does this guy make you think twice and the others didn't?

 

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  posted on 7/18/2013 at 07:58 AM
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well at least you had no problem with charles manson or mark david chapman being on the cover.......why does this guy make you think twice and the others didn't?

How do you know he/she had no problem with them, or was even alive when those covers ran, or perhaps has just never seen them?

I have not seen the MDC cover (no luck on google), but the primary difference is that a) the Manson cover didn't make him out to look like a glorified rock star, and b) the marathon bombing had a direct impact on thousands and an indirect yet still very real impact on hundreds of thousands if not millions of others and those wounds, physical and emotional, are still very fresh. Not to mention that both of the covers you mention were from decades ago and many people reacting to this cover were not even born or not old enough to remember the covers or whether there was any reaction to them. That said, no one should be the least bit surprised at the backlash this cover is getting, it shouldn't be that hard to understand even if you don't agree.





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  posted on 7/18/2013 at 08:31 AM
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I will think twice about supporting Rolling Stone in the future.


well at least you had no problem with charles manson or mark david chapman being on the cover.......why does this guy make you think twice and the others didn't?

How do you know he/she had no problem with them, or was even alive when those covers ran, or perhaps has just never seen them?

I have not seen the MDC cover (no luck on google), but the primary difference is that a) the Manson cover didn't make him out to look like a glorified rock star, and b) the marathon bombing had a direct impact on thousands and an indirect yet still very real impact on hundreds of thousands if not millions of others and those wounds, physical and emotional, are still very fresh. Not to mention that both of the covers you mention were from decades ago and many people reacting to this cover were not even born or not old enough to remember the covers or whether there was any reaction to them. That said, no one should be the least bit surprised at the backlash this cover is getting, it shouldn't be that hard to understand even if you don't agree.





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Funny that the outrage is over "he looks like a rock star"... the outrage should be that he murdered innocent people, not what people THINK he looks like.

I don't think he looks like a rock star...

None of this makes any sense to me...

 

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  posted on 7/18/2013 at 08:49 AM
This response from Rolling Stone:

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Our hearts go out to the victims of the Boston Marathon bombing, and our thoughts are always with them and their families. The cover story we are publishing this week falls within the traditions of journalism and Rolling Stone's long-standing commitment to serious and thoughtful coverage of the most important political and cultural issues of our day. The fact that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is young, and in the same age group as many of our readers, makes it all the more important for us to examine the complexities of this issue and gain a more complete understanding of how a tragedy like this happens.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/17/rolling-stone-defends-tsarnaev-cov er_n_3612722.html

 

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I will think twice about supporting Rolling Stone in the future.


well at least you had no problem with charles manson or mark david chapman being on the cover.......why does this guy make you think twice and the others didn't?

How do you know he/she had no problem with them, or was even alive when those covers ran, or perhaps has just never seen them?

I have not seen the MDC cover (no luck on google), but the primary difference is that a) the Manson cover didn't make him out to look like a glorified rock star, and b) the marathon bombing had a direct impact on thousands and an indirect yet still very real impact on hundreds of thousands if not millions of others and those wounds, physical and emotional, are still very fresh. Not to mention that both of the covers you mention were from decades ago and many people reacting to this cover were not even born or not old enough to remember the covers or whether there was any reaction to them. That said, no one should be the least bit surprised at the backlash this cover is getting, it shouldn't be that hard to understand even if you don't agree.





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Funny that the outrage is over "he looks like a rock star"... the outrage should be that he murdered innocent people, not what people THINK he looks like.

I don't think he looks like a rock star...

None of this makes any sense to me...


Being outraged about the glorification of a murdering terrorist in no way diminishes the outrage over what this scumbag actually did, in fact the two are obvisouly and totally linked. Many if not most people feel that the photo selected glamourizes him as a sympathetic figure with rock star status and appeal (a "hero worship" following continues to develop around him, as evidenced at his court appearance last week and this will only feed into that). I guess I don't get how some people are having a hard time understanding why so many people are pissed off, even if they disagree.



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  posted on 7/18/2013 at 09:35 AM
I'm not surprised at all. I can't remember the last time I took Rolling Stone seriously.

 

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  posted on 7/18/2013 at 02:10 PM
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I will think twice about supporting Rolling Stone in the future.


well at least you had no problem with charles manson or mark david chapman being on the cover.......why does this guy make you think twice and the others didn't?


I don't feel defensive about your post. I just want to respond and clarify. I was a very young child during the time of the Manson murders, so although I knew the name of Charles Manson, I really did not understand the gravity of his crimes until I was older. I did state in my post that the Manson RS cover does not seem as glamorous to me as the Boston Bomber. I don't know how I would have felt if I had been an adult or even a teenager at the time of the Manson cover. I didn't address the Mark David Chapman RS cover because I didn't recollect it and was trying to focus on the issue at hand, which is the cover shot of the Boston bomber. Please don't read anything more into my opinion. I quite simply feel that this cover of the Boston bomber was a poor decision regardless of past or future covers. I value our freedom of expression, and that includes Rolling Stone's freedom to make their own decisions. I am just suggesting that if the public, as consumers, feels that this cover is inappropriate, they can send a clear message where it has the biggest impact - economically. For the time being, I choose not to support Rolling Stone. Perhaps that will change in the future. If the majority of Rolling Stone supporters have no problem with this issue, then the majority will have spoken.

[Edited on 7/18/2013 by Quilt]

 

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well at least you had no problem with charles manson or mark david chapman being on the cover.......why does this guy make you think twice and the others didn't?


I don't feel defensive about your post. I just want to respond and clarify. I was a very young child during the time of the Manson murders, so although I knew the name of Charles Manson, I really did not understand the gravity of his crimes until I was older. I did state in my post that the Manson RS cover does not seem as glamorous to me as the Boston Bomber. I don't know how I would have felt if I had been an adult or even a teenager at the time of the Manson cover. I didn't address the Mark David Chapman RS cover because I didn't recollect it and was trying to focus on the issue at hand, which is the cover shot of the Boston bomber. Please don't read anything more into my opinion. I quite simply feel that this cover of the Boston bomber was a poor decision regardless of past or future covers. I value our freedom of expression, and that includes Rolling Stone's freedom to make their own decisions. I am just suggesting that if the public, as consumers, feels that this cover is inappropriate, they can send a clear message where it has the biggest impact - economically. For the time being, I choose not to support Rolling Stone. Perhaps that will change in the future. If the majority of Rolling Stone supporters have no problem with this issue, then the majority will have spoken.

[Edited on 7/18/2013 by Quilt]


Well said, Quilt.

 

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  posted on 7/18/2013 at 02:22 PM
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This response from Rolling Stone:

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Our hearts go out to the victims of the Boston Marathon bombing, and our thoughts are always with them and their families. The cover story we are publishing this week falls within the traditions of journalism and Rolling Stone's long-standing commitment to serious and thoughtful coverage of the most important political and cultural issues of our day. The fact that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is young, and in the same age group as many of our readers, makes it all the more important for us to examine the complexities of this issue and gain a more complete understanding of how a tragedy like this happens.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/17/rolling-stone-defends-tsarnaev-cov er_n_3612722.html


That was the official, damage-control statement. And it fails address the issue at hand, which is not that they published the article, but how he was depitcted on the cover.

Below is the tasteless and condescending "statement" about the cover criticism from Rolling Stone senior editor Christian Hoard via his Twitter feed, which he then promptly deleted when he realized (or more likely, some told him) that it could only make things worse...

 

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  posted on 7/18/2013 at 02:30 PM
Sending out a tweet like that just sets one up to look like a tool, because the inevitable deletion is just an admission that one was being a tool.
 

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  posted on 7/18/2013 at 10:50 PM
Thnx godnicar for posting the letter from the mayor.

Stratdahl is right in when was the last time anyone read RS. THing is no one has so RS is doing this for pr for RS. RS 's audience too are , unfortunately a bunch of people who don't get it. Today's **** , I am old at 48, but todays ' youth, young people, 17-25 don't get it.

My generation got it.
We were not that dumb.

Okok, I should some of today's youth, young people don't get it and wil think,oh, this is cool.


 

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  posted on 7/19/2013 at 02:46 AM
Heard that this same picture was used on the cover of the New York Times, why no outrage then? Personally I think they did this on purpose to get the outrage so that people will be talking about Rolling Stone and this might lead to potentially selling more magazines. Personally the cover doesn't bother me

 

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