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  posted on 6/22/2013 at 08:37 PM
I never heard of Paula Deen before this week, but this story is a real shame. Apparently Paula Deen was fired from the Food Network for admitting under oath that she has used the N-word in the past. This simple admission got her fired from her job. She was fired for telling the truth, for something legal, that every single white American has also done in the past. Is this what being honest gets you nowadays? This story shows that it pays to lie. I admire her honesty and courage, and she should've never been punished for her testimony.

However, if Paula Deen is indeed guilty of violence and racism towards an employee, then she certainly deserves to be fired. But this court case isn't over, so the fact that the Food Network fired her is an outrage.


http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/21/showbiz/paula-deen-racial-slur/index.html



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  posted on 6/22/2013 at 08:55 PM
Not being a legal expert by any means but just using a little common sense. If the Food Network fired her for the sole reason of using the N-word this could come back and bite them if Ms Deen were to persue it in court.

 

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  posted on 6/22/2013 at 10:35 PM
It's not that simple.

Serves her right.

Good riddance.

 

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  posted on 6/22/2013 at 10:43 PM
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It's not that simple.

Serves her right.

Good riddance.


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  posted on 6/23/2013 at 12:42 AM
They didn't fire her. They chose not to renew her contract.

She'll be on tv somewhere else eventually, once she takes some time off doing some charitable work.

 

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  posted on 6/23/2013 at 01:04 AM
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I never heard of Paula Deen before this week, but this story is a real shame. Apparently Paula Deen was fired from the Food Network for admitting under oath that she has used the N-word in the past. This simple admission got her fired from her job. She was fired for telling the truth, for something legal, that every single white American has also done in the past. Is this what being honest gets you nowadays? This story shows that it pays to lie. I admire her honesty and courage, and she should've never been punished for her testimony.

However, if Paula Deen is indeed guilty of violence and racism towards an employee, then she certainly deserves to be fired. But this court case isn't over, so the fact that the Food Network fired her is an outrage.


http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/21/showbiz/paula-deen-racial-slur/index.html



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[Edited on 6/23/2013 by BoytonBrother]


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"She was fired for telling the truth, for something legal, that every single white American has also done in the past".
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You just insulted millions of people who never, ever used the N word in their lives and taught their kids never to use it. Sounds to me you grew up with in an area or with friends who used the N word so you think the whole world did it too. You are very wrong and very off base.

No she is not a victim. At one time in her life she referred to people of color in a disgusting and insulting way. Personally I don't believe her B.S. apology only given to save her own butt.

I think you should have your thread deleted. It has some nasty overtones to it. I am glad she lost her show. She cooked heart attack garbage food anyway.

 

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  posted on 6/23/2013 at 01:24 AM
More than anything she said 30 years ago, the recent attitude about planning a "plantation-style" event recently was far worse.

 

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  posted on 6/23/2013 at 01:46 AM
She showed her ignorance and paid the price... how dumb can you get?

 

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  posted on 6/23/2013 at 06:23 AM
Guess I didn't know the whole story...

 

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  posted on 6/23/2013 at 07:54 AM
George Carlin - They are only WORDS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUvdXxhLPa8

 

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  posted on 6/23/2013 at 09:55 AM
Not all eyes will cry for her.

The Food Network is completely within their rights not renewing her contract. Corporations are people too.

 

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  posted on 6/23/2013 at 10:46 AM
quote:
George Carlin - They are only WORDS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUvdXxhLPa8


The problem is most people don't live/think/process at the same level as George

 

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  posted on 6/23/2013 at 12:45 PM
The United States is a free country in which you're able to pretty much say about anything with a few legal exceptions. That doesn't mean there won't be consequences for what you say and Paula Deen is reaping the results of things she's said and the attitudes she's presented over the years. The plantation style event was a little over the top I have to say. The Food Network is a business and it remains to be seen how this is going to play out. Bill Mahar has landed on his feet on another network after losing his show a while back, Dog the Bounty Hunter made a return...twice now....and I foresee Paula Deen as making a comeback down the road too. It's just the way things work out in this short span attention society these days.

As for her recipes....anyone who didn't know from the beginning that a regular diet of her recipes would clog their arteries hasn't been paying attention.

 

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  posted on 6/23/2013 at 04:53 PM
She's a hack as a cook [maybe dangerous] and should not be on TV in the first place.

 

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  posted on 6/23/2013 at 09:47 PM
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"She was fired for telling the truth, for something legal, that every single white American has also done in the past".
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You just insulted millions of people who never, ever used the N word in their lives and taught their kids never to use it. Sounds to me you grew up with in an area or with friends who used the N word so you think the whole world did it too. You are very wrong and very off base.

No she is not a victim. At one time in her life she referred to people of color in a disgusting and insulting way. Personally I don't believe her B.S. apology only given to save her own butt.

I think you should have your thread deleted. It has some nasty overtones to it. I am glad she lost her show. She cooked heart attack garbage food anyway.


You are a liar if you are claiming to have never said the word once in your life. You are a weak-minded, over-sensitive dope, and I won't delete it because I could care less what you think. You have no credibility, and are clearly a loser troll that I won't feed anymore after this post.

 

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  posted on 6/23/2013 at 09:51 PM
I just think this story is one big over-exaggeration. Everyone has said something offensive before, and when she was asked about it, she admitted it and told the truth. I just don't like these characteristics in our society - publicly demonizing someone for a small mistake, getting fired. We are way too sensitive, and our penchant for punishing people is cold-hearted. I hate our fear of political correctness. I think it makes us weak.
 

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"She was fired for telling the truth, for something legal, that every single white American has also done in the past".
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You just insulted millions of people who never, ever used the N word in their lives and taught their kids never to use it. Sounds to me you grew up with in an area or with friends who used the N word so you think the whole world did it too. You are very wrong and very off base.

No she is not a victim. At one time in her life she referred to people of color in a disgusting and insulting way. Personally I don't believe her B.S. apology only given to save her own butt.

I think you should have your thread deleted. It has some nasty overtones to it. I am glad she lost her show. She cooked heart attack garbage food anyway.


You are a liar if you are claiming to have never said the word once in your life. You are a weak-minded, over-sensitive dope, and I won't delete it because I could care less what you think. You have no credibility, and are clearly a loser troll that I won't feed anymore after this post.


According to the written deposition she gave for the lawsuit, she said she described the man who had just put a gun to her face and robbed the bank she worked in as "a n*g#e@" to the police asking for a description. She was upset, she had been threatened with violence, and more than likely wasn't thinking in PC speak kinda mode. Plus, you do know this was 40 years ago?

So lovelead, buzz off. You're still trolling for kneejerk reactions.

PS: If you've ever read the adventures of Tom Sawyer aloud, you've said the so called "n-word".

 

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  posted on 6/24/2013 at 12:52 AM
She should have made the lawyer clearly state the word he wanted her to admit saying.

There are hundreds of words that start with N.....she should have asked for clarity on exactly which "N" word they were talking about. It would have proven a point that there is a context in which everyone in the world has probably said that word...

"I'm sorry sir but could you please tell me exactly which "N" word were talking about"

Sir could you please say the word for me so we know which "N" word were are discussing

 

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  posted on 6/24/2013 at 04:49 AM
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I just think this story is one big over-exaggeration. Everyone has said something offensive before, and when she was asked about it, she admitted it and told the truth. I just don't like these characteristics in our society - publicly demonizing someone for a small mistake, getting fired. We are way too sensitive, and our penchant for punishing people is cold-hearted. I hate our fear of political correctness. I think it makes us weak.

Agreed.

 

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  posted on 6/24/2013 at 08:51 AM
She is a dumb dip$hit who said stupid racially prejudiced things and now she has to pay the piper for her ignorant comments. Let this be a lesson to anyone and everyone, especially if they are seeking such a public career. Anything you say in public throughout your life can and will be held against you, period! So watch what you say.

 

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  posted on 6/24/2013 at 10:00 AM
sixty8, then you should hold yourself accountable as well. If you've ever uttered an offensive word in your past, even going back to your childhood, then your company should fire you.
 

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  posted on 6/24/2013 at 10:49 AM
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sixty8, then you should hold yourself accountable as well. If you've ever uttered an offensive word in your past, even going back to your childhood, then your company should fire you.


He never has.

 

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sixty8, then you should hold yourself accountable as well. If you've ever uttered an offensive word in your past, even going back to your childhood, then your company should fire you.
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He never has.


I'm assuming this is a joke.

 

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  posted on 6/24/2013 at 12:28 PM
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The United States is a free country in which you're able to pretty much say about anything with a few legal exceptions. That doesn't mean there won't be consequences for what you say ...


Allow me to play Devils' advocate for one moment.

I am reminded of the book/movie, "A Clockwork Orange". In this story, the protagonist - a young, violent type - is given therapy that actually makes him become nauseated at the merest suggestion of violence. Someone points out that the young man hasn't VOLUNTARILY given up violence. Instead, he has become conditioned to reject it via medical treatments. In short - he simply no longer has a choice. His ability to make decisions in these matters has been taken from him.


Freedom of Speech - but with consequences? How can this even be considered free speech?

My late mother taught me to recognize an idiot when I heard one. She also taught me the whole, "sticks and stones ..." thing. Whenever I hear someone say something that I find to just be totally idiotic - I simply dismiss them from my mind.

Did Paula Deen ever evoke the dreaded "N" word? If her family history was anything like mine, she probably heard it so often growing up that she was 8-9 years old before she even realized that it was a slur. Growing up in a segregated society (1950-60's south) can have this effect on a person.

Not only this, but "freedom of speech" seems to be based (at least sometimes) on where you are, who you are and what (if anything) you are reacting to.

Former Atlanta Braves pitcher, John Rocker lost his career based on some stoopid remarks he made to a Sports Illustrated reporter. FYI - he never evoked the "N" word. He even offered apologies (don't know how sincere) afterward that did nothing to save his job.

Activist and Reverend Jesse Jackson referred to New York City as, "Hymee (sp?) Town" - a term that could be offensive to the Jewish population. Last I checked, the Reverend Jackson was still in business.

There are dozens of stories and examples that I could cite over the varying degrees of "freedom of speech".

Someone pointed out a while back that all "Free Speech" is not "Good Speech". This is something we all should recognize.

Firing someone? Taking their livelihood? Because they opened their mouth and let their stoopidity come out to play? I can understand the HR director or even the CEO taking someone into their office and explaining how their remarks made the rest of the organization look bad. I can eve understand requiring some sensitivity training. But firing someone for making offensive remarks while others slide - just not a good model.

And if "Freedom of Speech" does indeed come with consequences - I think it's time we took that particular "freedom" off of our nation's menu.

 

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  posted on 6/24/2013 at 12:53 PM
Way overblown...... The suits at the Food Network could care less .. they are just protecting their bottom line and saving themselves further guilt by association accusations....

Her begging for forgiveness multiple times is a bit much too..

 

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