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  posted on 6/11/2013 at 11:30 AM
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/the-40-greatest-stoner-albums-20130 607

Solid list in my opinion. But what I want to know is what should be added to the list?

 

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  posted on 6/11/2013 at 11:48 AM
I've given up on Forbes, Yahoo, and Rolling Stone "lists" where you have to page through hundreds of ads and really slow page loads instead of just seeing the list.....


that being said, based on the comments, how could you not have 'In the Court of the Crimson King' on the list? Nothing by Zappa? Not really worth wasting my time......

 

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  posted on 6/11/2013 at 12:13 PM
Zappa wouldn't want to be in this list, he abhorred drugs.
 

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  posted on 6/11/2013 at 12:25 PM
I'm glad to see that schticky SoCal reggae bands did not make the list (as that music frustrates me to no end), although I agree about "In The Court Of The Crimson King". I was excited to see a few jazz albums on there though, very cool!

 

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  posted on 6/11/2013 at 01:19 PM
Going off topic here (that RS list looks very randomly selected like most of their very dubious and incomplete lists):

Okay, from a Dutch (European?) view point: i'm not even familiar with the term Stoner albums which refer to pot or getting stoned. There's a music term / label called Stoner Rock which refer to bands like Monster Magnet, Fu Manchu, Nebula and Kyuss. Sometimes labelled as Desert Rock but "Stoner" is a more widely used term.

Stoner rock or stoner metal is a subgenre of combining elements of traditional heavy metal, psychedelic rock, blues rock, acid rock, and doom metal. Stoner rock is typically slow-to-mid tempo and features a bass-heavy sound, melodic vocals, and "retro" production. The genre emerged during the early 1990s and was pioneered foremost by the Californian bands Kyuss and Sleep. The descriptor "stoner rock" may originate from the title of the 1997 Roadrunner Records compilation Burn One Up! Music for Stoners. Desert rock is also used interchangeably as a descriptor, and was coined by a MeteorCity Records intern, around the time the label released the 1998 stoner rock compilation Welcome To Meteor City. Due to the similarities between stoner and sludge metal, there is often a crossover between the two genres. This hybrid has traits of both styles, but lacks stoner metal's somewhat uplifting atmosphere and its usage of psychedelia.

 

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  posted on 6/11/2013 at 01:36 PM
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http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/the-40-greatest-stoner-albums -20130607

Solid list in my opinion. But what I want to know is what should be added to the list?


No Doors, No Zeppelin, No Cypress Hill, No Rush, the wrong Sabbath album, I'd have gone with Master of Reality, (SWEETLEAF is on there for God's sakes), over Paranoid, a little Grand Funk wouldn't have hurt either (Inside Looking Out, and the bong rattling bass of Mel Schacter)

Inclusions I didn't get were, Radiohead's Kid A, and Kraftwerk.
Can't speak for Kid A, but Kraftwerk's stuff, umm, seemed to be better on things other than weed.



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  posted on 6/11/2013 at 02:39 PM
Maaaaan! Any music is good stoner music!

Name some albums that are bad stoner albums?

 

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  posted on 6/11/2013 at 02:54 PM
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"The Kids From The Brady Bunch"

 

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  posted on 6/11/2013 at 03:09 PM
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Name some albums that are bad stoner albums?


"The Kids From The Brady Bunch"


Which sounds a lot better - or is at least more tolerable if you're baked. It works for Phish - it works for the BB!

 

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  posted on 6/11/2013 at 03:40 PM
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Name some albums that are bad stoner albums?


"The Kids From The Brady Bunch"


Which sounds a lot better - or is at least more tolerable if you're baked. It works for Phish - it works for the BB!


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  posted on 6/11/2013 at 03:53 PM

Quadrophenia is an old standby....

 

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  posted on 6/11/2013 at 03:57 PM
How in the world can that list exist and not have Iron Butterfly IN A Gadda Davida on it? There was no musical merit in that song; it had one purpose only.

Honorable mention Bloodrock DOA

 

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  posted on 6/11/2013 at 04:14 PM
I own 10 of the 40. Not sure if I'm surprised or not by that. I was actually kind of thinking before I saw the list that I would've had more than that.

Another vote here for In The Court Of The Crimson King.

I would've chose some of these for that list:

Fleetwood Mac - Then Play On, Mystery To Me, Heroes Are Hard To Find

The Moody Blues - On The Threshold Of A Dream, In Search Of The Lost Chord

Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Tarkus, Brain Salad Surgery

Yes - Close To The Edge, Tormato

Cream - Wheels Of Fire

Blind Faith

Eric Clapton - 461 Ocean Blvd

Led Zeppelin - all from I to Physical Graffitti


And, alternate/additional albums by a few artists who made the list:

Beatles - Revolver or the White Album

Jimi Hendrix Experience - Electric Ladyland

Allman Brothers Band - Shades Of Two Worlds






 
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  posted on 6/11/2013 at 04:14 PM
a friend of mine from high school had the kraftwerk album but it was in german not english..it was a riot..i could easily put traffic's john barleycorn must die album on the list..i was just listening to it as went through the list..the yes album also
 

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  posted on 6/11/2013 at 04:53 PM
In a gadda da vida - iron butterfly

 

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  posted on 6/11/2013 at 05:29 PM
Most of these are just good albums, and the one-liners about getting stoned are kind of lazy. I haven't done it but I also think listening to Kid A while blitzed might be really unpleasant since it's not exactly an upbeat, friendly album. I do consider it excellent rainy-day listening. There could certainly be more jazz on here: Soultrane came to mind first for whatever reason. I guess they felt they represented reggae well enough, but that's only three or four albums and I think they're all dub. Not a single actual Wailers album, nevermind anything by Peter Tosh? That seems kind of stupid to me. And couldn't there be at least one comedy album, like maybe Carlin's "Class Clown?" And even though I'm not really a fan I wonder if they should've included some Red Hot Chili Peppers.

I have 13 of these and most of them aren't just good, they're excellent:
"Axis: Bold as Love"
"Dark Side of the Moon"
"Paul's Boutique"
"Revolver"
"Kid A"
"Mellow Gold"
"Maggot Brain"
"At Fillmore East"
"Remain in Light"
"Z"
"Bitches Brew"
"Head Hunters"
"If I Could Only Remember My Name"

 

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  posted on 6/11/2013 at 05:49 PM
I graduated HS in 76, so my list is skewed toward that era - that said would have added, in no order, off the top of my head
ELP (or Brain Salad Surgery)
Made in Japan
LZ (anything from 1 - Physical Graffiti)
Apostrophe ,, Hot Rats, or almost anything Zappa (even though Frank hated drugs)
Charlie Daniels - Fire on the Mountain
Alan Parsons Project
Yes - Fragile or Close to the Edge, or better yet, Yessongs
Santana Abraxas or self titled
Sgt Pepper, Revolver
Electric Ladyland
After the Gold Rush

 

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  posted on 6/11/2013 at 06:14 PM
Sang, I'm with ya on rs being a pain to view, didn't look at the list but like the responses so thought I'd chime in.

Dear to my twisted acidic mind is In Search of the Lost Chord... Departure! And off to the zone, flat on my back and loud as hell!
Meddle & Dark Side, Animals had 3 nice long ones on. Atom heart mother.

Was nice when the output had a theme, and two sides, two beginnings and two ending pieces. Or maybe just one long azz tune. Most bands today don't comprehend how that adds to the overall effectiveness of their tunes.

Getting a bit more recent, i'd put Blood Sugar Sex Magic by the Red Hot Chili Peppers in there, and Cypress Hill's first joint, love them or hate them, they were hittin the note on the funky grooves.

As for abb Dutch fans stoner rock origins, let's be sure to remember the Meat Puppets were doing that way back when in the early 80'sfrom their days on SST onward. Their label mates Dinosaur, Jr loved the green, as did the offshoot Sebodah. Sludge feast was a classic tune.

gettin really out there we're the granddaddies of weird noise from the early 80's punk scene, the Butthole Surfers. Hairway to Steven being the classic. The surfers were really fun on wax, where you could switch the speed from 33 to 45 and hear / understand some of the sped up / slowed down vocals / noises and stuff. always great fun on the wheels of steel when yer baked outta the ol gourd. Their cover of Hurdy Gurdy Man was a great song for doin whippets, and letting the whah whah's wash over you.

Another 80's classic was Express by Love & Rockets, all aboard the express kundalini! And their vids are a real trip, ESP the Bubblemen segments found on their Haunted Fishtank compilation.

Always in good funn & thanks for letting me post some thoughts on the blazin past.

 

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  posted on 6/11/2013 at 06:45 PM
There is a lot of good stuff on that list, but there are times when they are trying a little TOO hard to avoid the obvious choices. Bold As Love over Electric Ladyland? African Herbsman over Burnin'? Sorry, but sometimes the obvious choice is the right one.

I appreciate the King Crimson love in this thread, but I'd go for Starless and Bible Black over In The Court Of The Crimson King.

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Nice Simpsons reference! Don't forget the wild, shirtless lyrics of Mark Farner

 
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  posted on 6/12/2013 at 10:43 AM
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There is a lot of good stuff on that list, but there are times when they are trying a little TOO hard to avoid the obvious choices. Bold As Love over Electric Ladyland? African Herbsman over Burnin'? Sorry, but sometimes the obvious choice is the right one.


Definitely agree with that, Rob.


A few more I thought of last night:

Fleetwood Mac: TUSK

Traffic: When The Eagle Flies (well, pretty much ANY Traffic album would suffice! )

Derek & The Dominos: In Concert

Jeff Beck: Blow By Blow and Wired

Gentle Giant: pretty much ANY of their albums




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  posted on 6/12/2013 at 11:35 AM
Emerson Lake and Palmer Tarkus and Brain Salad surgery

 

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  posted on 6/12/2013 at 11:51 AM
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There is a lot of good stuff on that list, but there are times when they are trying a little TOO hard to avoid the obvious choices. Bold As Love over Electric Ladyland? African Herbsman over Burnin'? Sorry, but sometimes the obvious choice is the right one.

I appreciate the King Crimson love in this thread, but I'd go for Starless and Bible Black over In The Court Of The Crimson King.

"the bong rattling bass of Mel Schacter"

Nice Simpsons reference! Don't forget the wild, shirtless lyrics of Mark Farner


I agree with Bold As Love over Ladyland but then again I think it is the better album. But you can't go wrong with any of the Crimson or prog rock in general

 

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  posted on 6/12/2013 at 12:28 PM
obviously this is a music related list but I would offer some comedy albums. My Dad used to have an old Jonathan Winters record that would be near the top of my list.

 

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  posted on 6/12/2013 at 01:06 PM
Interesting list. I'm not sure what "great stoner albums" mean? If it's albums to listen to when stoned, then leave most heavy metal off the list (zepp being the exception) and ditch any Fleetwood Mac and Eagles as well!! Same with many of Zappa's stuff, although Live in NY is funny as hell when stoned! I would lean more toward Floyd, Dead, ABB, ELP, etc. all the jam bands and some reggae (although Reggae puts people to sleep, when stoned).
If it means albums that are "associated" with herb in some way, then it would be a different list.

 

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  posted on 6/12/2013 at 01:38 PM
Back in HS, some go-to albums for my crew were:

Floyd-Ummagumma (Meddle would work too)
The Tubes
Hawkwind (I thought it god-awful though, even when....)
Santana-Lotus

 
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