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  posted on 5/13/2013 at 02:37 PM
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Jim, if you believe we need to keep them out of the hands of the wrong people, than why not support tougher background checks and mental an safety exams?



The ones we have work, or at least in CT they worked. When Lanza tried to buy a rifle from Dick's Sporting Goods, they denied him because of his issues. However, his mom let him have access to her guns. If she had lived, I would be for prosecuting her and sending her to prison for life. Jared Loughner, who shot Giffords, I don't think was ever diagnosed with a mental illness, so he would not have come up on any list and would have fallen through the cracks. Kliebold and Harris at Columbine purchased their arsonel illegally, and like most violent criminals never submit themselves to background checks or mental illness checks. I think the Harris and Klebold parents should be held accountable too. As I said, I grew up in a house full of guns, but was never allowed to actually own one or handle one without my father's supervision. I remember my brother having a pellet gun that looked like a .357 and my father found it. I thought my father's head was going to explode when he found that one. We couldn't take a dump without our parents knowing what we were doing, yet gunpowder, explosive devices and the sawed-off barrel of a shotgun turned up in the search of Harris's room. And Mrs. Lanza was actually introducing guns to her mentally ill son. Both are pure carelessness and outright stupidity and nothing a background check or mental illness check would have prevented.

How would more background checks stop someone like Lanza or the aforementioned people? How would they stop the gangbangers that kill people for their initiation?

I think we need to enforce the existing law and make sentencing much harsher. Perhaps we can take all of the people serving time for selling weed and hallucingens out of the clink and start putting really hard core gun toting criminals in there instead. I am not sure how to legislate against poor parenting though.

 

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  posted on 5/13/2013 at 03:13 PM
Gun sale loopholes can often put weapons in felons' hands
Single mom who bought weapon for convicted felon is now serving a four-year sentence


Kenneth Lee was a convicted felon who wanted a gun, authorities say. Darlene Hoover was a single mom with a clean record who needed cash.

So the two acquaintances from the South Side made a deal, according to prosecutors. For $200, Hoover drove about 40 miles to an unassuming strip mall in southwest suburban Plainfield to buy a semi-automatic handgun for Lee, lying on a federal form by claiming to be the owner.

It took nearly five years for the consequences of that illegal "straw purchase" to play out on a recent Chicago night. Armed with the blue steel .40-caliber, Lee shot at a man on the street, police said. As a result, Hoover now finds herself in prison serving a four-year sentence.

Deterring these covert gun purchases a key way for criminals to get their hands on firearms has proved to be a daunting task for law enforcement. Many straw purchasers see the opportunity as easy money and a victimless, paperwork crime. After a weapon recovered at a crime scene has been traced to the original buyer, most simply claim the gun had been stolen or lost, crippling any possible prosecution.

Straw purchasing has been at the forefront of the gun debate that has raged across the country since the Connecticut school massacre. As Hoover's case quietly and quickly moved through Cook County court, state and federal legislators have sought to stiffen penalties and close loopholes to try to clamp down on the crime. But measures in both Springfield and Washington have stalled amid heated opposition from gun advocate groups.

"It's not just a paper violation," Thomas Mahoney, supervisor of the gangs unit for the Cook County state's attorney's office, said of straw purchases. "It goes much deeper than that, and it can have real, dire consequences."

The gun trace

It was an unusually warm Saturday evening in January when Lee ran down a street in Chicago's South Shore neighborhood, raised the Smith & Wesson semi-automatic and opened fire on a man on the busy block, prosecutors alleged.

No one was hit by the three bullets, but a Chicago police sergeant witnessed the shooting and gave chase with other officers. Lee, who has past convictions for weapons and narcotics offenses, was apprehended after he ran into a house where he had been staying, police said.

Officers said they found the Smith & Wesson the make of handgun most popular among Chicago's violent criminals, according to police hidden under a pile of clothes in the basement. In a closet, police found 136 rounds of .40-caliber ammunition as well as a Tec-DC9 pistol with a high-capacity 30-round magazine, court records show.

In a city where daily headlines mark the tide of gun violence 13 people were struck by bullets that weekend alone it was an unremarkable shooting. Lee, a reputed Black Disciple gang member with a six-point star tattoo on his shoulder, was later indicted on attempted murder charges. He has pleaded not guilty and is free on bond while awaiting trial.

Tracing the gun's history, investigators discovered that Hoover bought the Smith & Wesson in June 2008 at The Gun Shop Inc. in Plainfield.

The month after Lee's arrest, police showed up at the two-flat home in the 7800 block of South Cregier Avenue that Hoover shared with her mother and 16-year-old daughter and took her in for questioning, records show.

Investigators caught a rare break. Within hours, Hoover, at the time a security guard at O'Hare International Airport, signed an admission that she had bought four guns in all for Lee on three separate occasions between 2007 and 2011. According to court records, she acknowledged making two of the purchases at the now-shuttered Plainfield gun shop and the other two at Leising's Firearms, a tiny, second-story shop tucked behind a gyros stand in south suburban Chicago Heights.

Lee fronted the money for the guns and paid Hoover $200 for each, prosecutors said. With each purchase, Hoover had to return to the gun shops a second time to pick up the weapons after clearing a background check and waiting period of several days. She then met Lee in a parking lot at the congested, six-corner intersection at 8300 S. South Chicago Avenue and handed over the weapons, according to prosecutors.

'Lost or stolen law'

The U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, the federal agency that enforces gun laws, has called stopping straw purchases a "top priority."

Experts say it is impossible to know how many straw purchases happen given the shadowy world in which they occur. The University of Chicago Crime Lab, which studies how to reduce violence, is seeking a grant to look into illicit gun pipelines in Chicago, New York, Los Angeles and Boston.


http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-05-12/news/ct-met-guns-straw-purcha sers-20130512_1_kenneth-lee-gun-violence-straw-purchasing

 

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  posted on 5/14/2013 at 11:26 AM
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Single mom who bought weapon for convicted felon is now serving a four-year sentence




Only four years. She should be held accountable for that murder and be serving a lot longer than that.

 
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