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  posted on 4/20/2013 at 09:26 AM
Anyone notice the terrible mix they had for the ABB last night? Bass drums were cranked and made the low end so muddy you couldnt hear Oteil. Derek was way low, nearly inaudible and Warren was cranked. Hope they fix it tonight. Band was firing on all cyclinders, sounded great despite the awful mix. New tune Dusk til Dawn was played. From what I remember: Hot lanta opener, statesboro, gilded splinters, worried down with the blues, revival, liz reed with jimmy herring, one way out with Luther, and others i am forgetting.

 

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  posted on 4/20/2013 at 09:51 AM
Sorry to hear about the sound, but glad to hear the band played well. Hopefully they will get the sound dialed in for tonight. You should have better weather, which helps. Any audio professionals can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think wet, soggy conditions contribute to the "muddy" sound you mentioned.

This is the kind of show where the soundboard recordings often sound better than the show sounded to the audience. Maybe the MunckMix downoads will reflect the high performance quality and compensate for the mix issues.

Good to see Jimmy Herring sit in with the band. Somebody was inferring some kind of sinister conspiracy behind the fact that he didn't sit in at the Beacon this year, I'm glad he and the ABB are still on good terms.

 
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  posted on 4/20/2013 at 10:04 AM
I listened to the broadcast and I made a similar comment on the Sirius thread. The mix was bad, could hardly hear Oteil and when I turned up the bass, it was just muddy. The Moogis mixes. Oteil has always been really clear. I felt the mix took away from how the show really was. During Liz Reed, Warren was way up and during his solo, all I really could hear was Warren and the drums. I hope it's improved tonight.
 

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  posted on 4/20/2013 at 05:22 PM
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Sorry to hear about the sound, but glad to hear the band played well. Hopefully they will get the sound dialed in for tonight. You should have better weather, which helps. Any audio professionals can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think wet, soggy conditions contribute to the "muddy" sound you mentioned.

This is the kind of show where the soundboard recordings often sound better than the show sounded to the audience. Maybe the MunckMix downoads will reflect the high performance quality and compensate for the mix issues.

Good to see Jimmy Herring sit in with the band. Somebody was inferring some kind of sinister conspiracy behind the fact that he didn't sit in at the Beacon this year, I'm glad he and the ABB are still on good terms.
Big fan of Jimmy Herring...

 

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  posted on 4/20/2013 at 09:14 PM
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Sorry to hear about the sound, but glad to hear the band played well. Hopefully they will get the sound dialed in for tonight. You should have better weather, which helps. Any audio professionals can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think wet, soggy conditions contribute to the "muddy" sound you mentioned.

This is the kind of show where the soundboard recordings often sound better than the show sounded to the audience. Maybe the MunckMix downoads will reflect the high performance quality and compensate for the mix issues.

Good to see Jimmy Herring sit in with the band. Somebody was inferring some kind of sinister conspiracy behind the fact that he didn't sit in at the Beacon this year, I'm glad he and the ABB are still on good terms.


All environments have an impact on sound. What you have described is an issue with the Sound Engineers who are doing the mixing...this is very unfortunate as this reflects on the band. Most times, the ABB engineers have always do a good job on the mix, but I guess they have bad days like everyone. Mixing outdoors is always more easier and enjoyable to do when comparing to mixing in Arena's because of concrete and steel constructions; not the favorable conditions acoustically. Most outdoor venues usually sound great. I think the bottom line here is the Sound Engineers who mix the "house" sound that resulted in the poor sound you described. Maybe there were faced with some other challenges or an equipment issue. There are always many factors.

Hope they get it right for tonite.

 

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  posted on 4/21/2013 at 02:57 AM
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I noticed the mix issues while watching that Statesboro youtube vid that watkinsglen1973 shared with us. Warren was indeed higher in the mix than Derek, and Warrens volume really launched somewhere around the 3:30-3:35 mark.


Noticed that too. Almost sounded like Derek's guitar wasn't coming out of the PA, and what you hear is just stage? With that Warren volume bounce makes me think someone got their mic leads muddled up/mislabelled... yup, bad day at the office for someone!

 

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  posted on 4/22/2013 at 01:09 PM
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I'm not sure who does the board mix for the Brothers and if that seat changes occasionally...can somebody shed some light?



same person for every show......

it's Slim Judd that does sound for allmans...........he's been doing their sound ever since Bud left.....

I didnt noticed the sound issues the other night when i was there.....

but then again, i was getting mainly stage sound as i was about 20 feet from barrier up front.....

but, doesnt surprise with sound issues as i'm sure there were having issues due to rain and what not....

 

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  posted on 4/22/2013 at 01:43 PM
I only saw night 1 of the Allmans, but they were about 60% of the volume of WSP. We could hear Panic clearly back at Helen's Hilton when they first wen on. I headed to the field and they were plenty loud even back at the rear concessions.

The Brothers weren't anything like that. Derek was too quiet and the overall sound 1/2 -2/3 back on the field was noticeably low. Odd.

 

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