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  posted on 3/1/2013 at 02:42 PM
You can listen to the entire album for free here> http://www.npr.org/2013/02/27/172992228/first-listen-jimi-hendrix-people-he ll-and-angels


 
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  posted on 3/1/2013 at 04:31 PM
the cd drops 03-05-13.Target has an exclusive release with 2 bonus tracks.Ezy Ryder and MLK Jam(captain coconut)

 

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  posted on 3/1/2013 at 05:14 PM
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the cd drops 03-05-13.Target has an exclusive release with 2 bonus tracks.Ezy Ryder and MLK Jam(captain coconut)


thanks for the tip. i will get it from target

 

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  posted on 3/1/2013 at 07:16 PM
For some reason I had low expectations when I read about this release. What a pleasant surprise! This is crazy good!!! Thanks!

Oh Jimi, why did you have to leave?!

 

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  posted on 3/1/2013 at 08:16 PM
Thanks.
 

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  posted on 3/2/2013 at 09:19 PM
Why aren't more people talking about this great record?

 

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  posted on 3/2/2013 at 11:05 PM
Good Call!If you apply the coupon code HENDRIXJ during check-out you can save $2.00 off the $9.99 price on Amazon.com. coupon code expires 3-4-13. Enjoy!

 

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  posted on 3/3/2013 at 05:09 AM
After listening to a few tracks (thanks for the link!) my hesitations are not taken away but more or less confirmed. Definitely not the atrocities committed like those Alan Douglas releases from the Seventies and Eighties but still i think "Would Jimi have approved?". That Winterland boxset had fantastic live recordings just like the ton of cool unreleased tracks on the Purple boxset. But the recent releases just sound like some other studio takes of previously released songs from Jimi's back catelogue which back then were not deemed to be the definite version to be released. Well alternative takes are cool for die hard fans so no problem there. It are "songs" like "Inside Out" and "Easy Blues" that are more dubious. Audio wise they sound great regarding their age. But they just sound like some cut, copy and paste job from reels of studio jams and rehearsels. Just cut out 5 minutes of slow blues from a 30 minute rehearsel track and give it some phoney title. They simply don't sound like real (unreleased) songs. Not like a demo nor master. Just titles given to some jams 45 years after Jimi passed away.

 

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  posted on 3/4/2013 at 10:05 PM
Here is a link to a pretty well-written article that talks about the new album, with plenty of insight from Jimi's legendary engineer Eddie Kramer and commentary about Hendrix's lasting appeal and unique legacy....

http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/04/showbiz/music/jimi-hendrix-new-album-people-h ell-angels/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

Apparently the single "Somewhere" hit #1 on iTunes, and they expect the album to make a strong debut in the Top 200. It's hard to think of any artist in any genre who still has that kind of impact 43 years after their death.

 
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  posted on 3/5/2013 at 01:34 PM
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Here is a link to a pretty well-written article that talks about the new album, with plenty of insight from Jimi's legendary engineer Eddie Kramer and commentary about Hendrix's lasting appeal and unique legacy....

http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/04/showbiz/music/jimi-hendrix-new-album-people-h ell-angels/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

Apparently the single "Somewhere" hit #1 on iTunes, and they expect the album to make a strong debut in the Top 200. It's hard to think of any artist in any genre who still has that kind of impact 43 years after their death.


Thanks for the link! Too bad there's no breakdown of every track on the new disc. Maybe the CD booklet has more info regarding the origin of the songs and the recording sessions themselves.

 

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  posted on 3/5/2013 at 01:48 PM
The CD booklet has extensive notes about the tracks.

Anyone know if the Target bonus tracks are previously unreleased? I hate the stupid bonus track BS. Just put it all on one release. f--- 'em i'll download the bonus tracks and Target can suck it. I bought my copy at a local independent record store (Gallery Of Sound).

 

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  posted on 3/5/2013 at 02:20 PM
How many more rehashes will claim to be the record he was about to put out when he passed away and how many versions of Hear My Train A Coming are they going to put out ? That said, this sounds better than I thought and a little more like a real record than Valley's of Neptune that came out a few years ago.

Way better than Voodoo Soup and South Saturn Delta. I thought those albums were pretty lame. I still think Jimi Hendrix " blues" was a really good release and apart from live stuff, is the only I listen to often.

Maybe it's the mixing. It does sound more fresh than most of the rehashes that have come out to pay out to whichever family member owns the rights at any given moment.

 

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  posted on 3/5/2013 at 04:16 PM
Aside from perhaps First Rays Of The New Rising Sun, they really shouldn't advertise any of these as the "album Jim was about to release." Few of the songs are finished. What they are revealing is Jimi's work ethic, his ability to create and catalog ideas and keep them for future reference. I personally enjoy peering into his creative process. Most of the releases since his family took over have been high quality, well researched and documented, and the liner notes have been copious. Eddie Kramer worked closely with Jimi in the studio and is the perfect guy to produce these releases.

Alan Douglas had the rights from around 1973 to 1995 or so. he put out the mish mash rerecorded/edited stuff like Voodoo Soup, Crash Landing, Midnight Lightning, Nine To The Universe etc. He also did the blues album which I also thoroughly enjoy. I could listen to Hendrix play blues all day.

The interesting thing here is that every version of Hear My Train A Comin' and Bleeding Heart is different and you get to see (hear) Hendrix assembling the elements he wanted. Admittedly, it's not for casual fans.

 

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  posted on 3/5/2013 at 09:42 PM
i really don't think they have stated any of these newer releases were albums hendrix was about to release
 

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  posted on 3/5/2013 at 11:25 PM
Well they do play with making it sound that way. They say it was material that Jimi was working on and there is an element of truth there. What they never mention is that these takes are not what Jimi would have ever released.

Obviously we will never know but for the die hards it is great that it gets released. Just hope some kid doesn't mistake it for what Jimi did while alive and not dig into the albums released originally.

 

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  posted on 3/6/2013 at 08:01 AM
Maybe someone can enlighten me and help me understand. I think I might be a little ignorant when it comes to Hendrx.

I would say I am a casual fan at best and I do have most of his material that was released when he was alive. Not a rabid fan by any means but I do enjoy an occasional listen to him.

As we all will know there has be tons of posthumous releases from him. Greatest hits, remastering of the catalog,different labels, live and etc... Whether those are any good I guess is up for debate. I would not know for sure.

From what it sounds like Jimi must have spent tons of time in the studio recording...right? For having such a short carrer , but having so many releases the vault appears to be endless from all of the material that is being put out. Some of these songs have been released before, but these are different takes,versions etc that Jimi was involved with I am assuming...right? I guess thats all fine and good for the die hards,nothing wrong with that I guess. But if this is stuff that is just a clip of a long jam, something remixed by a producer/engineer and clips pasted together here and there...thats wrong IMHO. To me thats not legit, almost cheapens it to a point.
I am basing that on what I have heard and read inthe past about some of these recordings.

I wonder what Hendrix would think of this?

I knew it was coming out, thinking it's just material thats been released before. So I just ignored looking in to it till now.

I think the Hendrix Family (which is pretty much the adopted sister Janie who has control,just a babe when he died) IMHO is trying to milk this.

If I had a brother or a family memeber of that stature who was one of the most inovated guitar players ever to walk the earth, I am not sure I would keep spewing out this stuff like it has been going on. How much money can actually be made these days by putting material out? I think Jimi is still pretty relevant, but if it were me I would try and maintain his integrity/legacy as an artist. Yes I understand bands/musicians have back catalogs, unreleased material and etc....but I would only put it out there if it was quality, and unfortunatley Jimi is not here to give his stamp of approval.

I kinda have the same opinoin about Bolins stuff too.


Maybe I am wrong on this, but its just the impression I get from hearing,reading things
about this subject. Like I said I could be way off base and wrong, not seeing the whole picture, so maybe someone can explain this to me.




 

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  posted on 3/6/2013 at 08:28 AM
I think you basically have it straight, jzsfunk, and there are plenty of Hendrix fans who agree with you.

I'm skipping this current release. It has some good stuff on it, but I have most of the good stuff, and the songs with Lonnie Youngblood and the Ghetto Fighters are really a stretch to call "Jimi Hendrix music." I don't need another take of Hear My Train A-Comin' THAT bad.

My main plea to Janie would be to focus more on live music, like the absolutely freakin' fantastic Winterland box set, which in my mind is easily the best Hendrix release since she took over the catalog.

We know they could do similar high-quality releases of shows like the 7/30/70 Maui show (Jimi's finest in my opinion) or the 2/24/69 Royal Albert Hall show, but they want to focus on outtakes and jams that are far less significant to Hendrix's overall body of work.

I guess I don't mind them releasing this stuff, like Coltrane I feel like ANY Hendrix is worth hearing at least once. But don't mistake things like this release for the best Hendrix has to offer.

 
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  posted on 3/6/2013 at 09:37 AM
Exactly Rob. Old farts like many of us know the difference between what Jimi wanted released and what came after but younger people not so much in some cases.

But we can't have it both ways. When other artists sit on material, we complain and wish they would release it. With other artists, we complain that they are releasing too much and doing it for money. Very hard to find that middle ground I guess.

Personally I say ( to all bands) keep it coming. We can decide to buy or not but having that option is golden. Let's face it, if the ABB released CDs of jams in a basement, we would be diving in with the hope's of some magical Duane moment regardless of sound quality or playing.

Over the years, I have been passed things of Jimi's where it was hard to tell if it is even him jamming or the sound quality was just terrible. Some live shows where he was hopelessly out of tune and likely too high to even tell or the monitor system so poor that he couldn't hear himself. These are the things that should not be sold. Focus on the live stuff that is decent and the studio stuff as they are doing. At least the studio stuff has some quality and is in tune. Maybe not for everyone of course but again having the option to buy is golden.

 

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  posted on 3/6/2013 at 10:20 AM
At least the Hendrix family is making material available on a fairly regular basis for Jimi's long-time followers.I wish another band that we all know would do the same!!!!!!!!

 

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  posted on 3/6/2013 at 06:34 PM
I totally agree that when in doubt, it's better to release all they can and let the customer vote with their wallet.

As CanadianMule says, at least the studio stuff is good sound quality, which counts for something. I'm all in favor of any and all Hendrix with decent sound quality being released, even if it isn't top shelf Jimi.

Some of the Experience Hendrix live releases really are baffling, though. They put out the Fehmarn, Germany show as an official release, and it is barely even listenable, and I'm not that much of a snob when it comes to quality. It was the last show Jimi played, so it has historical value, but you're sitting on the Rainbow Bridge and Royal Albert Hall shows, both of which were filmed and recorded in high audio and video quality, and you put THAT out instead? Hard to understand.

Still, I do have to give EH props for the Winterland box set. It is the one live release every Hendrix fan should own. More essential than Woodstock, Band of Gypsys and the Monterey Pop Festival combined.


 
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  posted on 3/6/2013 at 08:26 PM
Supposedly they are working on a DVD of the Royal Albert Hall show.

In defense of the live stuff they put out, most of it is on Experience Hendrix' subsidiary Dagger Records and the label makes it known that the recordings are bootleg quality. According to them they put out the best recording they could find of Fehmarn. It is definitely low quality but it's an historical document more than a listening experience. the other Dagger records stuff is pretty cool though. the Baggy's Rehearsals of Band Of Gypsys gets into some great grooves and the Clark University disc is decent sound quality for an amateur recording in 1968. Oakland Coliseum is good too. I guess I like all of them, although i don't get into "Morning Symphony Ideas" much.

 

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  posted on 3/6/2013 at 10:06 PM
To answer JZ Funk's question directly, Hendrix had tape rolling just about all the time in the studio. He wanted it going continuously to capture any inspired ideas he could review and later use.
A lot of it featured Hendrix (and assembled musicians) working on different rythym patterns, guitar tones, tempos, and arrangements and placing of guitar solos, with the Experience, alot with Cox/Miles, and some with various other combinations of musicians. (Among the many, a horn section, B-3 organ players, saxaphone players, percussionists, etc, etc)

Eddie Kramer has stated that P,H and A, should be the last studio release, and Janie Hendrix has said there'd be no more studio releases of Hendrix material under Sony.

Its hoped that the "Black Gold" demos, the acoustic demos Jimi did in his apartment, and handed to Mitch Mitchell, (so he could get some rythym ideas, and said to be the last original things Hendrix worked on) might yield more than just the 1 track we've heard so far, Suddenly November Morning, the last track on the West Coast Seattle Boy box set.

Suddenly November Morning
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeM78PicTNQ

I think they're still quibbling over the editing control of the footage of The RAH performance, but they were talking about putting out a documentary of Jimi's time in London around these shows, as a camera crew was following him and the band around.
They also audio recorded the rehearsal sessions (rehearsal for live shows being rare for Jimi) for the 2 performances.

Miami Pop '68 is film they have in their posession.

There could be a complete audio box of all the Fillmore performances by the Band of Gypsys, with the Baggy's Rehearsals added for context as well.
Or at least a nice size box of cherry picked material like the Winterland boxset was.

They could do the same thing with the Berkley May '70 performances, releasing both the early and late sets, as a complete set. Out of 23 songs played over the 2 sets, 13 were different with only 5 tunes being the same in each set (Machine Gun, SSB, Foxey Lady, Purple Haze & Voodoo Child)

The Atlanta Pop '70 footage is out there as well, and while not a great performance its still footage of the man in action.







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  posted on 3/6/2013 at 10:14 PM
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the cd drops 03-05-13.Target has an exclusive release with 2 bonus tracks.Ezy Ryder and MLK Jam(captain coconut)


These are previously released, on The Cry of Love (Ezy Rider), and one of the early posthumous releases, Crash Landing -- I love Captain Coconut, that's a great one

also really enjoyed Valley of Neptune, his previous release

 

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  posted on 8/16/2013 at 07:39 AM
pure HENDRIX. fab music, poster, two photo`s and 192 page magazine. filled up on
PEOPLE, HELL AND ANGELS/ JIMI HENDRIX. HOW IS THAT.

 

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  posted on 8/16/2013 at 07:52 AM
Jimi, thankfully, recorded a lot, and he jammed with Mike Bloomfield and The Electric Flag in the studio. I wish Janie would find some of THOSE tapes!!!

 

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