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  posted on 1/29/2013 at 02:00 PM

Who produced the ABB debut album ? Where was it recorded ? I just got the MFSL remaster, which is astounding, but there is zero info in the liner notes, except for who the musicians are.

 
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  posted on 1/29/2013 at 02:04 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Allman_Brothers_Band_%28album%29

 

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  posted on 1/30/2013 at 10:17 AM
The producer was Adrian Barber, who in my opinion got a sound out of those guys that has NEVER been duplicated, it was also recorded in the summer of '69 in NYC which explains their absence from Woodstock.

 

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  posted on 1/30/2013 at 10:28 AM
He was a first and last producer. He did the first ABB and Aerosmith and the last Cream and Buffalo Springfield albums.

 

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  posted on 1/30/2013 at 11:04 AM
Hmm. Never heard this before:

"It's Not My Cross to Bear" ends in a fade-out on most LP, tape and CD editions of the album. However, original Atco Records LP pressings of the album (catalog no. SD 33-308) follow the fade-out with a "fade-in" to a cold close, adding several seconds to the song's running time.


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  posted on 1/30/2013 at 12:47 PM

thx for the info folks. Indeed this record has a singular sound. Cranking up the new MFSL edition, it is downright scary. SOUNDS INCREDIBLE ! you can hear everything separated, from guitar strings scratching, and a whole bunch of drums that were muddy on prior CD's, to the tatters of Gregg's very larynx .

The "It's Not My Cross to Bear" on this one does the fade out fade in thing you mentioned.

 

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Hmm. Never heard this before:

"It's Not My Cross to Bear" ends in a fade-out on most LP, tape and CD editions of the album. However, original Atco Records LP pressings of the album (catalog no. SD 33-308) follow the fade-out with a "fade-in" to a cold close, adding several seconds to the song's running time.


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Really? I have it at least three times and all of them have the fade out/fade in. Doesn't really add anything though so you are not missing much. I didn't know that it existed without it.

 

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Hmm. Never heard this before:

"It's Not My Cross to Bear" ends in a fade-out on most LP, tape and CD editions of the album. However, original Atco Records LP pressings of the album (catalog no. SD 33-308) follow the fade-out with a "fade-in" to a cold close, adding several seconds to the song's running time.


[Edited on 1/30/2013 by fschiazza]


Really? I have it at least three times and all of them have the fade out/fade in. Doesn't really add anything though so you are not missing much. I didn't know that it existed without it.


Pulled out the recent MOFI release of this album, and it does in fact have the fade out/fade in.

That, and inside the gatefold it does list the Producer credits et al

 

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That, and inside the gatefold it does list the Producer credits et al


Where? I see the musicians listed lower right panel. Wondering if this is not a bona fide MOFI copy I got here. Or maybe it's time to get some spectacles.

 

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That, and inside the gatefold it does list the Producer credits et al


Where? I see the musicians listed lower right panel. Wondering if this is not a bona fide MOFI copy I got here. Or maybe it's time to get some spectacles.


right under Dickey's naked ass

inside the gatefold is the infamous creek picture:



under where Dickey is crouching are the credits

 

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  posted on 1/31/2013 at 12:56 PM
lol , what were they trying to say by putting the credits there ?
 

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  posted on 2/1/2013 at 08:59 AM
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Hmm. Never heard this before:

"It's Not My Cross to Bear" ends in a fade-out on most LP, tape and CD editions of the album. However, original Atco Records LP pressings of the album (catalog no. SD 33-308) follow the fade-out with a "fade-in" to a cold close, adding several seconds to the song's running time.


[Edited on 1/30/2013 by fschiazza]


Wikipedia is a good online research source, but sometimes people write questionable and unverified information into the articles. The above is a good example of this problem.

That is why the Wiki staff deem the writing "original research" and call for actual citations to be included. Luckily, these articles are re-edited frequently, and I'm sure this article calls for one

[Edited on 2/1/2013 by BarrySmith]

 

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  posted on 2/1/2013 at 12:29 PM
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Wikipedia is a good online research source, but sometimes people write questionable and unverified information into the articles. The above is a good example of this problem.

lonomon says his version has this fade out and fade in.

 

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  posted on 2/1/2013 at 12:37 PM
When Capricorn remastered the ABB releases several years ago, it had both versions of the song, The debut album had one version and Beginnings had the other. I can't remember which version is on which cd. The liner notes even mention it on one of them or I read it in a review. It has been awhile.

 

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  posted on 2/1/2013 at 01:24 PM
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Wikipedia is a good online research source, but sometimes people write questionable and unverified information into the articles. The above is a good example of this problem.

lonomon says his version has this fade out and fade in.


I've heard the odd "fade in/out" ending ... almost flipped out the first time it played, it was so unexpected... it's almost a "Beatles loop thing". (maybe I was flipping out?!)

However, I don't have the MOFI release - I have it here but don't remember on what album or digital version -- will report back when I find it..........

edit: just figured it out: I grew up with the Beginnings set for albums 1 and 2, which doesn't include the extra fade in/out. Like it says somewhere here, it's on the regular LP #1. (some of them?)



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  posted on 2/5/2013 at 10:52 AM
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When Capricorn remastered the ABB releases several years ago, it had both versions of the song, The debut album had one version and Beginnings had the other. I can't remember which version is on which cd. The liner notes even mention it on one of them or I read it in a review. It has been awhile.


The "Beginnings" CD has the fade in/fade out and the first album doesn't (on the Capricorn remasters). There are actually 2 different mixes of first album... these aren't just mastering anomolies. "Whipping Post" is different too. Mind you, the differences aren't huge.

 
 


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