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  posted on 12/8/2012 at 11:13 AM
We're all aware of the death of Jacintha Saldanha, the nurse who was blamed in the prank phone call initiated by two Australian radio personalities) who misrepresented themselves, impersonating members of the British Royal Family.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/royal-hoax-call-receptionist-commits-suicide-14475 1515.html

Police were called to the address at 9:35am on Friday after a report about a woman found unconscious. Paramedics rushed to the property but she was pronounced dead at the scene.

WHO CALLED THEM?

Update: It was the husband who called them after he could not reach her via phone since trying from 8:25 am. She worked the night shift (presumably midnight to 8 am). So he began calling immediately after she should have gotten home and she did not answer so he called police, that is what the story is.

WHY WOULDN'T HE CALL A NEIGHBOR AND ASK THEM TO CHECK ON HER, OR WHY DIDN'T HE COME THERE HIMSELF SINCE HE WORKED THE DAY SHIFT AS AN ACCOUNTANT AT THE HOSPITAL AND THE NURSES RESIDENCE WAS IN THE BUILDING NEXT DOOR TO WHERE HE WORKED?

Additionally, he calls his Mom every day in India, but he never mentioned the scandal at all even though it was an international incident of which she would surely hear about it.

http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/National/royalwedding/arti cle1173086.ece

Firstly, most people MISTAKENLY believe it was this nurse who divulged information about the Duchess. IT WAS NOT. All this nurse did was transfer the call to the duty nurse, it was the DUTY NURSE who spoke to the radio personalities and she has not been identified.

http://news.yahoo.com/nurse-died-kate-hoax-call-india-112732051.html

"She was told by the second nurse who took the call from Saldanha that the Duchess, the former Kate Middleton, "hasn't had any retching with me and she's been sleeping on and off."

Second, this woman, Ms. Saldanha by all reports was not despondent at all, had no reason to be. She was married with 2 children. She and her "partner" had bought a house in 2005 and they had a good life. Here's the kicker, HE IS AN ACCOUNTANT FOR THE HOSPITAL. Other reports say she had lived there for the past nine years, which would be two years before they bought the house for one hundred and twenty three THOUSAND pounds. [Correction noted]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2244608/Jacintha-Saldanha-Familys-g rief-suicide-nurse-transferred-DJs-hoax-Kate-Middleton-hospital-call.html

Mrs Saldanha, also known as Jess, is thought to have come to the UK from southern India ten years ago and settled in the UK with her partner, 49-year-old hospital accountant Benedict Barboza.
The couple bought their £123,000 three-bedroomed home in 2005 in the Westbury-on-Trym district of Bristol.

After registering as a nurse in 2003 when she initially worked for the North Bristol NHS Trust, which runs Frenchay and Southmead hospitals, it is believed the nurse chose to apply for a job at King Edward VII four years ago and appears to have been living in the nursing accommodation 56-60 Weymouth Street ever since.

She has a son called Junal, 16, and daughter, believed to be 14. She stayed in London when she was working before returning to her family on days off. Mrs Saldanha is thought to have been from the Mangalore region of India. She is thought to have spent time in the Middle East before moving to Britain.


http://news.yahoo.com/nurse-died-kate-hoax-call-india-112732051.html

"Police released a grainy photo of Saldanha on Saturday. She had lived in Bristol in southwestern England with her family for the past nine years, Scotland Yard confirmed"

They lived there for TWO years before they bought the house in 2005. In 2008 she applied for a higher paying position at Kings VII hospital. They needed more money obviously. They needed it enough that she had to spend all her time in Nurses Residence housing and only went home on her days off. That was the trade off. Four years of living like that.

All crimes have their root in three causes, (they occur for ne of these reasons), Money, Love (Passion) or Revenge. When you can piece together and prove the motivation for the crime, you will find the assassin.

"In the 5.30am call, Mrs Saldanha had connected them to another nurse who gave details of Kate's condition."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/07/kate-middleton-nurse-found-dead-pr ank-callers_n_2257231.html

WHO IS THE OTHER NURSE WHO ACTUALLY GAVE THE INFORMATION TO THE PRANK CALLERS/ IT WAS NOT MS. SALDANHA, ALL SHE DID WAS TRANSFER THE CALL.

Radio hosts “ordered not to speak".

Was foul play involved? Who has the most the lose? The partner, hospital accountant, who if he loses his job loses his home where he lives with the two children. Most hospital staff have (at least in the US, we assume it is the same in England) have life insurance as a benefit, if she was worth more dead than alive, that could be a reason why her spouse might want to see her gone.

There are other possibilities, some other accounts say that people think the nurse had a heart attack. Those are easily arranged. Nurses have access to meds that can cause heart attacks. Jealous co-worker? What about the nurse she put the call thru to? She has motivation to make sure Saldanha doesn't reveal her identity does't she? Also has access to meds and knowledge of a nurse.

The Royals? Who take their privacy quite seriously, and the recent scandals involving Kate trying to distort her image with the release of those tacky photos taken with professional spy level equipment of the couple on that balcony, who sent them, leaked info for that man to conveniently be there?

In addition there is another possibility, her death was a threat/warning to the Duchess that 'someone' could get THAT close to her. Maybe they want to terrorize her so she has a miscarriage, you never know. She's very sick, and then you ratchet up the stress to make her even sicker. There are evil people (mostly among the intelligence community) who would do such a thing.

Suicide? It is possible, but there are others who should be looked at.






[Edited on 12/8/2012 by gina]

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I think it was Her Majesty's Secret Service that done her in.

 

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  posted on 12/8/2012 at 11:30 AM
Is that the same as the MI6



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One hundred and twenty three pounds? Was there a missing word in there like thousand? It sounds pretty cheap for a house if not.

 

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Is that the same as the MI6



[Edited on 12/8/2012 by gina]


Aren't you the expert on spy groups and such???

Don't you know???


Hmmm...........

 

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  posted on 12/9/2012 at 12:30 PM
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say that people think the nurse had a heart attack. Those are easily arranged.


Easily arranged heart attacks??? Do you want that eat-in or takeout????

Where do you come up with this crap?

 

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Note we still have not invaded Iran.

 

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Oh yes, I forgot, the real life version of the infamous character. They must have at least a few to do their bidding.

 

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One hundred and twenty three pounds? Was there a missing word in there like thousand? It sounds pretty cheap for a house if not.


Thank you, correction noted.

 

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say that people think the nurse had a heart attack. Those are easily arranged.


Easily arranged heart attacks??? Do you want that eat-in or takeout????

Where do you come up with this crap?


Investigative journalism and what I have learned thru life. There is a readily available common substance that everyone consumes, that if used in an excessive amount will trigger a fatal heart attack, and most medical examiners would not even look for it becase it would not be part of a toxicology panel. From the investigative journalism I have read accounts of how people have been assassinated and attempted assinations done by various intelligence and spy agencies.

I believe Yasser Arafat was poisoned and so do a lot of other people. When the toxicology reports come back from the autopsy the proof will be there. Will they kill the Dr.'s doing the reports, or break in and alter them? The man knew he was poisoned the night it happened and he even gave an interview where he said the next day (within 12 hours) of shaking hands with 3 Israelis at this party he began to get the flu symptoms and he thought he had been poisoned. They tried to assassinate Khaled Meshaal of Hamas but the King of Jordan demanded they give him the antidote. This stuff goes on all the time when high level people are involved.

Investigative journalism, that's where I get it from.

 

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Note we still have not invaded Iran.


We probably will not do a direct invasion, it would be in response to a false flag attack or we would drag them into it when the nations around them are at war. You are aware there are those saying that we are giving certain rebel forces chemical weapons to use against Assad's forces then we will claim that Assad is the one using them and use that to justify going into Syria right? That is the opinion of some.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/12/08/276948/uk-after-iraqlike-scenario-i n-syria/

British Foreign Secretary William Hague has warned the Syrian government against the use of chemical weapons in what many view as an attempt to recreate an Iraq-like scenario in Syria.


Speaking to the BBC on the sidelines of the 8th invitation-only Manama Dialogue on Saturday, Hague claimed the UK and the US have seen "evidence" that Damascus wants to use chemical weapons as fighting rages on between Syrian government forces and foreign-backed militants.

The Foreign Secretary also declined to give details of the intelligence reports, but added that he understood the "skepticism", following the Iraq war weapons scandal almost a decade ago.

On September 24, 2002, the British government published “Iraq’s Weapons of Mass Destruction: The Assessment of the British Government,” also known as the September Dossier, which alleged that former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction.

However, almost two years after the US-led invasion of Iraq, the CIA’s top weapons inspector in Iraq said they found no such weapons in the country. Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair is also accused of conspiring with former US President George W. Bush in waging an illegal war against Iraq.

Syria has been experiencing unrest since March 2011. Many people, including large numbers of security forces, have been killed in the turmoil. The Syrian government says the chaos is being orchestrated from outside the country, as there are reports that a very large number of the militants are foreign nationals.

Syrian officials also believe that Western countries are preparing the grounds for a military intervention against the Arab country under sham concerns over the possible use of chemical weapons by Damascus.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/12/09/277059/us-mulls-plans-for-potential -raid-on-syria/


The Pentagon is reportedly preparing a set of options for a potential military attack against Syria, following the recent allegations by Washington and its allies that Damascus seeks to use chemical weapons.


According to a report by congressional newspaper the Hill, several officials at the US Department of Defense say the rumors about the chemical weapons have prompted the Pentagon to conduct strategic assessment of its military options against Syria.

In response to a question about the US plans to launch a possible military strike against Syria, Pentagon press secretary George Little said on Friday that Washington is “prepared for a full range of contingencies.”

The plans may include the full-on occupation of Syria, which US officials estimate would require 75,000 troops and tens of thousands more for the so-called “peacekeeping” operation in the future, the report said.

On Saturday, the Syrian Foreign Ministry told the United Nations that Damascus will never use chemical weapons against Syrians, warning that ‘terrorist groups’ may resort to such weapons in the ongoing turmoil in the country.

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and President Barack Obama have said that Washington would take action if the Syrian army uses such weapons. Meanwhile, after militants took control of a toxic chemical plant in Syria’s northwestern city of Aleppo, a shocking video emerged showing them testing toxic chemicals on animals.



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But the topic here is not Iran, it is whether a hard working, dedicated nurse took her own life in a remorse stricken moment or embarassment or if something more clandestine was involved. When it first occurred I was sure foul play was involved, and I am still mostly of that opinion; but with the facts that have emerged I have other questions.

Such as what seems like an overly controlling husband (calls her 25 minutes after she gets home, and then sends police to go investigate when he could not reach her by 9:25. Her apt. was in back of the hospital, where he worked. Why didn't he go there on his way TO his office to check on her rather than calling police. Seems suspicious to me.

They obviously had financial troubles which is why she changed jobs 2 years before they bought the house. She even took the midnight shift (which has a shift differential most likely, most other hospitals do). Most hospitals allow someone to transfer to another shift after 1 year on a midnight shift, yet she has been doing that shift for four years. That is a horrible shift, does not allow for much of a life outside of work or sleep. That is a hardship on her. Wouldn't it have been better to buy a smaller house or a house in a more economical neighborhood than to put her thru that?

She could have been miserable enough to commit suicide, it is just the timing and the circumstances that suggest something or someone else may have had a hand in it. The Nurse who actually spoke with the radio show was the Duchesses Nurse, and they have protected her identity. They have said absolutely nothing about her, almost making Ms. Saldanha a sacrificial lamb. It could be that they asked her to resign, and she realized she would lose her house, so she killed herself. We just do not know what transpired that could have stressed her out to take her own life, if indeed she did that. If someone else had a hand in it, then they may 'fix' the autopsy results also.

Did you read the articles about the radio disc jockey's, first it was they will be off the air till Monday. Then there were articles about them going for counseling, then there were articles they were worried they were so upset they too might commit suicide, which to me seemed like a threat to them that if they said anything else, they were next in line to meet with an untimely demise. Now the latest is that they will not return to the radio station because they can be put in prison for broadcasting and not getting permission to broadcast the interview. Who's going to sue them a deceased nurse? Others said the radio station could be liable for broadcasting it, and that is probably closer to the truth of the matter.

The hospital does not want to lose the business (yes they are a business) of the Royal Family, the Royals would not want their privacy compromised, my recommendation to the disc jockey's is to relocate, get new jobs, don't mention this incident again. The nurse who actually spoke to them should reconsider her options too. How could she be trusted in the future at that hospital? The staff might be okay with her, but the Royals would not be comfortable, how could they be? She too should get another job and just not mention it. Keep low profiles.



 

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  posted on 12/10/2012 at 09:24 PM
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But the topic here is not Iran


Sure it is.

You spout all this conspiracy nostradumbass garbage that you "know" about, yet for years you've been saying the US was going to invade Iran.

You insist on it every year.

You are consistently WRONG about everything you say.

 

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  posted on 12/11/2012 at 10:08 PM
Response for you Photo Ron: I know it is a matter of time before we do invade Iran, they have oil. Apart from the prophecied war between the Shiites and the Sunnis and our own prophetic part in all that, the oil is reason enough.

RE: the thread at hand:

The latest on the topic at hand is that they claim there was a note by the nurse, but also one source revealed the method of death was by hanging. I do not believe anybody goes to work, comes home and then hangs themself before their spouse calls them, plus has time to write a note when he called her 25 minutes after her usual time of arriving back at the Nurses Residence.

If she would have overdosed, perhaps we could believe it, but hanging herself and leaving a note all within 25 minutes of arriving home or possibly one hour since he called her at 8:25 and then dispatched police who arrived by 9:25.

Her family went to the Labor MP (Member of Parliament) to ask for his help in determining what happened. They aren't satisfied with the 'official' story either. The radio station and hospital are making large payments to the family 'to ease their pain and burden', yeah right more like hush money.

http://tv.yahoo.com/news/kate-middletons-nurse-jacintha-saldanha-left-suici de-note-230000292-us-weekly.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/hoax-call-nurse-left-a-note- before-suspected-suicide-8406613.html

"Scotland Yard said an inquest would be opened and adjourned at Westminster Coroner's Court, following the results of a post-mortem examination, which will be made public. Saldanha, who was the senior nurse on duty at the hospital when the phone call was made at 5:30am last Tuesday, is believed to have hanged herself, according to reports."





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Response for you Photo Ron: I know it is a matter of time before we do invade Iran, they have oil. Apart from the prophecied war between the Shiites and the Sunnis and our own prophetic part in all that, the oil is reason enough.



So when you post the same prediction every year, at some point you finally may be right.

Genius.

And maybe at year 23 of gina's sure fire predictions when the sun actually does rise in the East, it will be End Times.


 

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Well Smarty Pants, the End Times war will begin with Syria, and I think you know that.

http://www.saudigazette.com.sa/index.cfm?method=home.regcon&contentid=2 0121215146065

INCIRLIK AIR BASE, Turkey – The US will send two batteries of Patriot missiles and 400 troops to Turkey as part of a NATO force meant to protect Turkish territory from potential Syrian missile attack, the Pentagon said Friday.

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta signed a deployment order en route to Turkey from Afghanistan calling for 400 US soldiers to operate two batteries of Patriots at undisclosed locations in Turkey, Pentagon press secretary George Little told reporters flying with Panetta.

Germany and the Netherlands have already agreed to provide two batteries of the US-built defense systems and send up to 400 German and 360 Dutch troops to man them, bringing the total number of Patriot batteries slated for Turkey to six.

Ain't no peace in Palestine either, the Israelis are even trying to take our journalists who could document their treatment of those people.

http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/israeli-soldiers-assault-journalists-w est-bank

Israeli soldiers punched two Reuters cameramen and forced them to strip in the street, before letting off a tear gas canister in front of them, leaving one of them needing hospital treatment.Israel's military said on Thursday it took the allegations seriously, but offered no explanation for the assault that occurred on Wednesday evening in the heart of Hebron.

"The regional brigade commander was ordered to open an investigation," Israeli army spokeswoman Avital Leibovich said in an email. No further information will be provided until the investigation is complete.

 

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In regards to the Nurse, they said she was a "devout" Catholic, and those people believe suicide is a sin. They also said they found marks on her wrists. I think she fought back, they restrained her arms, then hung her. They said they found 2 notes, but the notes did not say WHY she was doing it, and her family does not understand why. If this was a legitamite suicide, they would KNOW why. The husband spoke to her everyday on the phone after work, the woman was murdered.

They want to say she was grief stricken, why would she be? All she did was transfer the phone call. She did not reveal anything to anyone. She was murdered.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/dec/15/jacintha-saldanha-family-nurse

Doesn't sound like there was trouble at home now does there? Doesn't sound like her life was so miserable she didn't want to go home THAT day on her day off as she had the for past FOUR years does it?





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She was found dead by a colleage and hospital security.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/family-describe-unfillable-v oid-left-by-nurse-jacintha-saldanhas-death-at-westminster-cathedral-mass-84 20045.html

Mother-of-two Jacintha Saldanha, 46, was found hanging in her nurses' quarters at King Edward VII's Hospital by a colleague and a security guard on December 7.

REMARKS: She worked the night shift midnight to 8 am, her husband called her at 8:25 am and got no answer, he kept trying and then called police who arrived at 9:25. Her body was found by a colleague and "hospital police". How did the colleague just happen to be there, or come by, it was only 25 minutes between when she left the hospital and got home and could not answer the phone.

SHE WAS MURDERED.

 

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  posted on 12/15/2012 at 12:13 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/9747229/Jacintha-Saldanha-Royal-nurs ess-teenage-daughter-talks-of-her-loss.html

Three suicide notes, one contained criticism of the hospital staff.

"Mrs Saldanha from Bristol, was discovered at the nurses’ quarters by a colleague. Police have recovered three suicide notes, one reported to contain criticism of hospital staff. "

REMARKS: And it was a "colleague" who found her. MURDER.

 

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  posted on 12/15/2012 at 10:58 PM
gina relax have a beer the lady was embarassed and took her own life.

 

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  posted on 12/16/2012 at 01:27 PM
Do you really think that transferring a phone call would be sooooooo embarassing that she would go home and hang herself? I don't since one of the notes found mentiones criticism of hospital staff AND a hospital staffer plus hospital police found her AND the family has Parliament investigating the death. They do not know WHY she did it. Most times if people leave notes, they communicate to someone the REASON that they are taking their life. Her notes did not provide the reason.

 

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In regards to the Nurse, they said she was a "devout" Catholic, and those people believe suicide is a sin. They also said they found marks on her wrists. I think she fought back, they restrained her arms, then hung her. They said they found 2 notes, but the notes did not say WHY she was doing it, and her family does not understand why. If this was a legitamite suicide, they would KNOW why. The husband spoke to her everyday on the phone after work, the woman was murdered.
Are you kidding? Slow news week in the Mid-East, I guess. I don't know if you've ever been close to someone who has made this tragic decision, Gina, but I can think of 4 off the top of my head. Guess what. 3 of them were 'those people' ... "devout" Catholics (not sure what your choice of words and punctuation is meant to imply). None of the 4 left notes. One of them hung themself, 1 of them used drugs, and 2 of them blew their brains out with guns. Do the families understand 'why'? No. And yes. We don't KNOW but we can imagine or guess (sometimes that is worse ... the imagining). In a couple of cases things learned after the fact provided some 'understanding', some possible answers; in the other cases it's been years of questions ... and imagining. Believe me ... these were all 'legitimate' suicides. These people are no longer physically in our lives. You are making broad assumptions about people you have no knowledge of in an attempt to create yet another one of your conspiracies. It is kind of sick.

Thoughts are with Mrs Saldanha's family ... may they find some comfort through this tragic time. And may she be at peace.
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"Mrs Saldanha from Bristol, was discovered at the nurses’ quarters by a colleague. Police have recovered three suicide notes, one reported to contain criticism of hospital staff. "
This woman chose her personal space at her work place to commit this deed and was discovered by a co-worker - or 'colleague' (what is the deal with your transfixation on that term?) - and a security person (probably necessary for gaining access to Mrs Saldanha's quarters). Who would you imagine would find her in that location?
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There is a readily available common substance that everyone consumes ...
I think you need to cut back on your consumption of substances... it's making you paranoid.

 

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