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  posted on 12/2/2012 at 10:12 AM
Last night I saw Hot Tuna and enjoyed the show immensely but was disgusted with fan behavior all around me.Numerous people behind me were talking non stop so loud all night that I actually understood and heard their entire conversation and a woman who was standing dancing behind me must have hit me in the head a dozen times throughout the show and when I politely told her she was hitting me in the head she told me "loosen up,it is a concert"...No matter how many times I asked her to stop hitting me in the head she simply scoffed and told me it's too bad because it is a rock concert.It seems to me this is occurring more and more often and to be honest ruining the shows for me in many cases.I have had people spill bear all over me etc. and go right on as if nothing happened.Am I just getting old or is this getting worse?
 
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  posted on 12/2/2012 at 10:24 AM
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Last night I saw Hot Tuna and enjoyed the show immensely but was disgusted with fan behavior all around me.Numerous people behind me were talking non stop so loud all night that I actually understood and heard their entire conversation and a woman who was standing dancing behind me must have hit me in the head a dozen times throughout the show and when I politely told her she was hitting me in the head she told me "loosen up,it is a concert"...No matter how many times I asked her to stop hitting me in the head she simply scoffed and told me it's too bad because it is a rock concert.It seems to me this is occurring more and more often and to be honest ruining the shows for me in many cases.I have had people spill bear all over me etc. and go right on as if nothing happened.Am I just getting old or is this getting worse?

I don't know if it's getting worse or not, but it is definitely a real issue. So many people have the mindset that once they walk into a concert venue all respect and courtesy to others takes a back seat to their own "good time". The thing is, there is usually a solution that can be as simple as moving to an area of the venue where their "good time" won't interfer with enjoyment by others.

 

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  posted on 12/2/2012 at 10:29 AM
I think Dean Wormer had it right! "Fat,Drunk and Stupid is no way to go through life,son." Certain people just don't know how to act.I hope you have better luck at your next show!

 

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  posted on 12/2/2012 at 10:35 AM
I think the behavior is typical of what we are seeing more and more of everywhere, there just seems to be a lack of consideration for our fellow man (or woman). Drivers are more aggressive on the roads, people will jump in front of you when a new line opens up in the grocery store (even though you were in line first before they showed up), etc., etc.

We were at a Steve Winwood concert recently, and so many people were holding up their phones to film the show that they were blocking the view of many people in the audience. One man kept yelling at the people to put their phones down and they totally ignored him! So while we may be getting older, I do have to agree with you that the behavior is getting worse.

 

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  posted on 12/2/2012 at 10:37 AM
Years ago at a ABB show I was about ten rows away from the stage. Excellant view and sound ..well the group of guys in the row in front of us decided to stand up and dance with the first song..okay let it go but the next song they just stood there.. so me being the polite guy I am I asked them to sit down so we could see. His response was " old man we came to dance and if you want to see stand up" I then forcefully sat his ass down and in no uncertain terms told him that the next time he stands up he better be going to get something to drink or use the facilities. Him and his buddies got up and didn't come back. Concert goers now seem to be very rude indeed.

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  posted on 12/2/2012 at 11:27 AM
I don't go to many shows now. The vibe I get is with high ticket prices, there's somehow more at stake. Back in the 70's, we paid our 5 bucks and the concern was more about which direction to pass. And god forbid if you had a "bogart" next to you.
 

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  posted on 12/2/2012 at 12:35 PM
I went with my mom & stepdad to see Brooks & Dunn in Dallas a few years ago. We were outdoors on the lawn, and people all around us were talking real loud, some were even cussing. We had my brother Andrew with us, who was 12 then. SO my stepdad nicely asked them to watch their language, but they ignored him, so my mom got up and told them the same thing, and they stopped after she told them. I like arena shows better because in there, you can hear the music clearly even if people are talking. I prefer rock shows over country shows, because at rock shows, you get the drug smokers, who don't say anything, but at country shows, you get the drinkers, who are always real loud!!
 

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  posted on 12/2/2012 at 03:26 PM
between the talking and holding iphones to take video pictures, I find it harder and harder to enjoy the music at a show. This "me" generation sucks.

Some idiot grabbed me from behind at the ABB show at Merriweather because I was dancing and standing because I was just sittingin a car for 3 hours to get to the show. I told the moron to STFU and not to grab my arthritic back or neck again. How's that for a nice start to a show?

I told him if everyone would Shut up and put down the phones, THEN I would sit down.

Didn't happen.

If someone kept hitting me, I would move, or if it was an assigned seat, I would ask the usher to find me another seat.

I don't go to many live shows anymore.



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  posted on 12/2/2012 at 05:50 PM
More and more of a problem.

In my distorted framework, in the orchestra standing is accepted. In the upper sections know. Noise to the level of disturbance not allowed (talking)

That said, there is no reason that if someone asks something politely they can't be accommodated. If I'm standing and someone asks please I think "how important is this really to me" and usually sit down.

Went to see Neil Young about 4 years ago in Ct (good two hour drive) The lady behind me was clapping in my ear and singing to the point I couldn't hear uncle Neil. Asked her nicely she intentionally got louder; finally got security and insisted they come over (and after I told her that I was going to report her illegal drug use.) Never told security, but their presence got her to shut up. God knows what my blood pressure was; and god knows it destroyed my evening

 

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  posted on 12/2/2012 at 06:22 PM
was it electric or acoustic Hot Tuna ? If acoustic, I can't see how someone would get away with that, however, that said, electric, different story.

I hate to confess how we actecd at Tuna shows back in the 70's. It was no holds barred chaos and mayhem, there was lots of open "illegal drug use"and cussing too, anyone who could still stand was doing just that, and dancing didn't exist, it was awkward boogying and it was obnoxious, rude, ugly, and people bumped into each other constantly. Shouting, well, an ongoing competition to see who could yell "HOT F****ing TUUUUNAAAA!!!!!" probably qualifies as shouting.

So, if anything, people are far better behaved at concerts nowadays, so much so that the few who are being rude really stand out.

It wasn't entirely our fault, Jorma was so damn loud that if you didn't jump you would get burned by the pan.


 

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  posted on 12/2/2012 at 06:30 PM
Standing, sitting, cellphones are nothing to me. Talkers, however, drive me nuts. I was surprised how many there were at ABB Beacon shows; I had figured there would be more discerning attendees there. It was as bad as Chastain Park.
 

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  posted on 12/2/2012 at 07:07 PM
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Standing, sitting, cellphones are nothing to me. Talkers, however, drive me nuts. I was surprised how many there were at ABB Beacon shows; I had figured there would be more discerning attendees there. It was as bad as Chastain Park.


yep
if someone is standing in front of me, I'll stand. If they're sitting, I'll sit. I can go with the flow.
just STFU and let me hear the music.

to the initial point, if someone was hitting me repeatedly, even by mistake, I would get quite upset. I've mistakenly got in someone's face while dancing at a show - they gave me a dirty look, I got it, and I was careful. It's not hard.
That lady was a jerk.

 

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  posted on 12/2/2012 at 07:31 PM
If you want to talk and catch up with friends, do it in the lobby or the concourse , why bother others with the talking. If you just move to a appropriate space every one wins.

 

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  posted on 12/2/2012 at 07:38 PM
I was at a concert back in 1982 and there were some guys drinking beer sitting in front of me and they would high five each other every time a song that they knew started. In their drunken state they would spill beer on a very nicely dressed woman in front of them. They would appoligise and then end up doing it again...and again. The woman eventally got fed up and left her seat and left the row.

I had forgotten about her when I heard "HEY!". I looked to where the shout was coming from and it was that woman, she was standing at the rows end with two large beers in her hands. The two guys looked at her just as she tossed first one beer, then the other, drenching the two guys toally. She then calmly walked off as the two guys sat there stupid looking.

It was worth the price of admission just to see her revenge.

 

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  posted on 12/2/2012 at 07:43 PM
I saw Ray Lamontagne at the Chicago Theatre last night - it is all seating, and it was an acoustic show - just Ray (who had a cold and was a trooper), a stand-up bass player, and a female vocalist. Very quiet and intimate. My wife had to ask the woman in front of us to turn off her iphone - the white light was very distracting. People kept yelling stuff out in between songs - We love you Ray, How you feeling Ray, the names of his songs - it was very annoying. Luckily the iphones were not quite as prevalent as other shows I have been to - but it could have been that we were high up in the balcony and not downstairs.

I can't believe the number of people that feel the need to text, post to facebook,or tweet at movie theaters and shows - can't you be in the moment and enjoy what you paid for? For a whole 2 hours? All of the white screens are very distracting......

 

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  posted on 12/2/2012 at 08:13 PM
The last time I saw Dickey in Syracuse, outdoor show, I had an incident with an azzhole.

Two trashy lesbians and their straight(?) guy friends were in front of me, one guy is dancing away and kept hitting my camera lens.

After the fourth time, I poked down on his collar bone hard enough to to get his obviously pained attention.

I told him in no uncertain terms that if he hit my lens one more time I would break his effn nose.

I got all sorts of rude looks from the gang of four but they moved over and didn't hit anyone the rest of the show.

 

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  posted on 12/2/2012 at 10:35 PM
you go ron!i have to agree manners seem to be a thing of the past.i like to get aisle seats if i can. last month i was at a zac brown show, good seats, on the aisle,and the folks in the row spent more time going for beer or going to get rid of beer.i'm going to an outdoor show next sat. to see travis tritt. lots of outdoor events in florida this time of year. sunshine blues fest is coming.
 

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  posted on 12/3/2012 at 06:41 AM
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If someone is standing in front of me, I'll stand. If they're sitting, I'll sit. I can go with the flow.
just STFU and let me hear the music.


Yep. A lot of this belief system has to do with the venue. "Humphrey's by the Bay"...here in San Diego (and a very popular waterside theater)...is a noted, "Please remain seated during the show" and they are adamant about enforcing it. But that's ok, because most know this going in.....

Lately I've seen this as an, "If you are assigned a seat and have a ticket with a seat # on it"...then you should sit.

 

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  posted on 12/3/2012 at 08:10 AM
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Last night I saw Hot Tuna and enjoyed the show immensely but was disgusted with fan behavior all around me.Numerous people behind me were talking non stop so loud all night that I actually understood and heard their entire conversation and a woman who was standing dancing behind me must have hit me in the head a dozen times throughout the show and when I politely told her she was hitting me in the head she told me "loosen up,it is a concert"...No matter how many times I asked her to stop hitting me in the head she simply scoffed and told me it's too bad because it is a rock concert.It seems to me this is occurring more and more often and to be honest ruining the shows for me in many cases.I have had people spill bear all over me etc. and go right on as if nothing happened.Am I just getting old or is this getting worse?

I don't know if it's getting worse or not, but it is definitely a real issue. So many people have the mindset that once they walk into a concert venue all respect and courtesy to others takes a back seat to their own "good time". The thing is, there is usually a solution that can be as simple as moving to an area of the venue where their "good time" won't interfer with enjoyment by others.


I agree. I think we are starting and have been living in an age of self "entitlement's,me first , I am the most important". I am not sure if alot of it has to do with all of the social media that is present and people not having any humility and having the ego where the think people really care that "I am going to the store and my kid fell off of there bike" mentality. And some people are just plain rude. I am all for having a good time, but you need to respect the people around you also. Find that happy medium.

 

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  posted on 12/3/2012 at 08:17 AM
I went to Tuna on 11/30/12 myself as my husband canceled due to illness.It was SO HARD to enjoy the show as the 2 drunken women next to me were so aggressive.They kept jumping in my empty seat when I left it a few times and wouldn't get out of my seat when I returned,necessitaiting me having to loose attention to the musicianship and get a usher to help me.They then yelled at me while I was trying to listen to Cindy and Jorma;s instrumental. I swear I was polite to them but they were really agressive and it was so very hard to keep my mind on the music.
I did not use my ticket the next night even though I wanted to see Bob Margolin so bad.My partner was still sick and I couldn't get myself to go solo again after the stress of the previous night.
I wanted to reply to the earlier thread about why there aren't so many women at some of the guitar oriented shows(e.g.ABB, Buddy Guy).Well, let me tell you as a women who goes as far back as seeing Jimi twice and many shows at the Fillmoe East: it is very hard to find another female my age to go to these kind of shows with and when my husband is too tired or sick it is a REAL Struggle to go hear the live music I love. If you are not a cute young thing or a regular boozer it is a real challenge to hear the music. I have not used many tickets when my husband backs out it is just not as easy for a women to be respected (or just not get pushed around) at these gigs.

 

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  posted on 12/3/2012 at 09:27 AM
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Last night I saw Hot Tuna and enjoyed the show immensely but was disgusted with fan behavior all around me.Numerous people behind me were talking non stop so loud all night that I actually understood and heard their entire conversation and a woman who was standing dancing behind me must have hit me in the head a dozen times throughout the show and when I politely told her she was hitting me in the head she told me "loosen up,it is a concert"...No matter how many times I asked her to stop hitting me in the head she simply scoffed and told me it's too bad because it is a rock concert.It seems to me this is occurring more and more often and to be honest ruining the shows for me in many cases.I have had people spill bear all over me etc. and go right on as if nothing happened.Am I just getting old or is this getting worse?


Behavior is going downhill as are manners. Very annoying to spend money and have the people around you behave as if they are the only ones that matter.

Correct me if I am wrong Jon but were you not the person defending using cellphones at shows and said you would continue? Those cellphones bug me more than some guy spilling beer and affects far more people. karma is a bitch.

What is missing from society is the ability to understand what bothers others even if it doesn't bother us. Those people rambling next to you really don't know they are doing something wrong and will get defensive if told to stop. Same with the drunk who thinks it is a big party and everyone is or should be as drunk as them. The cellphone flipper also.

 

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  posted on 12/3/2012 at 09:40 AM
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  posted on 12/3/2012 at 10:05 AM
The most respect I saw at a show was an acoustic Hot Tuna. The crowd was so silent that you could've heard a pin drop! Everybody was there for the music.

At Eddics Attic in Atl, the MC will tell you up front that the place is all about listening to the music and talking will not be allowed. He says if you want to talk, go out to the smoking area which has a live feed of the show. "Smokers love to talk, go talk to them" he says.

At another Hot Tuna show people for some reason were dropping their beer bottles. It really annoyed the acoustic vibe of the band and Jack addressed the crowd between songs and asked everyone to go ahead a drop their bottles and get it over with. Hundreds of bottles dropped; none breaking. Once it was over the band played. Next time I saw them at the same venue, all drinks had to be poured into red dixie cups - guess the band had a rider in their contract. It was great.

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  posted on 12/3/2012 at 10:16 AM
I find the price of concert tickets the most rude thing of all, and that's the primary reason I don't go to many shows anymore.

Maybe at $100 per ticket with fees people do feel like they can do what they want as they feel they paid for the right to do so...I'm not saying that's right either, but...

I do agree that integrating cameras into cell phones changed a whole lot of things about modern society in general.

 

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  posted on 12/3/2012 at 10:21 AM
personally I dont much care about phones but I do really care about people talking as if they are in their living room and of course people banging into me and spilling things on me etc and then giving me an annoyed stare or worse when I ask them to please stop and be considerate....I have had so many people say to me "hey man,its a concert"...as if that entitles them to hit people and spill beer on them etc......I also find it amazing when 99% of the crowd is sitting for a show and some idiot or idiots insist on standing ruining the view of everyone behind them and causing a scene....if everyone is standing its one thing but if everyone is seated,stay in your seat for crying out loud!
 
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