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  posted on 11/6/2012 at 11:26 PM
I said I would be the first to admit and here I am. I had thought that Romney would win this election handily based on what I knew about politics and history. I was wrong. Obama has ecked out a narrow victory. The polls turned out to be largely correct.

I will need to examine all the returns and the analysis in the coming days in order to understand WHY it came out this way. There are a lot of possibilities.

I think Romney is a fine man and would have been a good president and had a good chance of bringing the country back together. I think Obama is a deeply divisive figure who had a terrible first term. I hope he has a better second term.

Nobody should think that this is in any way a specific mandate for Obama's stewardship of either the economy or the world. It is a narrow victory in an obviously deeply divided country. Where we go from here I don't know but that will be for the future and I concede without hesitation that my call was very wrong. Obama will remain president.

 

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I said I would be the first to admit and here I am. I had thought that Romney would win this election handily based on what I knew about politics and history. I was wrong. Obama has ecked out a narrow victory. The polls turned out to be largely correct.

I will need to examine all the returns and the analysis in the coming days in order to understand WHY it came out this way. There are a lot of possibilities.

I think Romney is a fine man and would have been a good president and had a good chance of bringing the country back together. I think Obama is a deeply divisive figure who had a terrible first term. I hope he has a better second term.

Nobody should think that this is in any way a specific mandate for Obama's stewardship of either the economy or the world. It is a narrow victory in an obviously deeply divided country. Where we go from here I don't know but that will be for the future and I concede without hesitation that my call was very wrong. Obama will remain president.


Wow. Nothing like conceding defeat gracefully - or with class, the way Alex Castellanos said was what the GOP needed to do.

Whether you can accept it not, Doug, Romney lost. And all your "analysis' won't change that fact.

Sorry it is such a bitter pill for you to swallow. Maybe it will get easier with time.

But I doubt it.

 

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  posted on 11/6/2012 at 11:37 PM
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I said I would be the first to admit and here I am. I had thought that Romney would win this election handily based on what I knew about politics and history. I was wrong. Obama has ecked out a narrow victory. The polls turned out to be largely correct.

I will need to examine all the returns and the analysis in the coming days in order to understand WHY it came out this way. There are a lot of possibilities.

I think Romney is a fine man and would have been a good president and had a good chance of bringing the country back together. I think Obama is a deeply divisive figure who had a terrible first term. I hope he has a better second term.

Nobody should think that this is in any way a specific mandate for Obama's stewardship of either the economy or the world. It is a narrow victory in an obviously deeply divided country. Where we go from here I don't know but that will be for the future and I concede without hesitation that my call was very wrong. Obama will remain president.


Wow. Nothing like conceding defeat gracefully - or with class, the way Alex Castellanos said was what the GOP needed to do.

Whether you can accept it not, Doug, Romney lost. And all your "analysis' won't change that fact.

Sorry it is such a bitter pill for you to swallow. Maybe it will get easier with time.

But I doubt it.


It is a bitter pill to swallow. I hate the idea of Obama still being president. I'm not going to deny that. This was not a game for me or a sporting event. I am not looking forward to four years of attacking him every time he does something I hate. I think Romney would have been a good president. But I admitted immediately that my theory of the election was wrong. And I will of course accept the narrow judgment of the people as I presume the left did when Bush was elected. That's about the best I can do I'm afraid. At least we can agree the United States is willing to elect and then re-elect (narrowly) a black man.

 

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  posted on 11/6/2012 at 11:40 PM
And what you are forgetting is the same "house" that supposedly kept Obama from pushing his agenda, is still in place.......So while you can say Obama won, (hell I even call that one a while back) what have we as a nation really won....... Nothing but more gridlock IMO
 

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And what you are forgetting is the same "house" that supposedly kept Obama from pushing his agenda, is still in place.......So while you can say Obama won, (hell I even call that one a while back) what have we as a nation really won....... Nothing but more gridlock IMO


That could be avoided if the president, recognizing his narrow base of victory, modified his policies and acted on compromise as Clinton did. But I doubt he will.

Incidentally I MAY also be wrong about the thing I was certain of. That Romney would not win the popular vote and lose the electoral. That may still happen. I will have to re-examine a lot of what I thought I knew about American politics. We really are truly divided. Both parties ought to start thinking about how to expand their coalitions. This is not healthy in the long run for the country.

 

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  posted on 11/6/2012 at 11:44 PM
Romney refuses to concede. Pure class.

NOT.

Poor little Mitt. Couldn't get his way and buy the Presidency. If he refuses to accept defeat, then it didn't happen.

In his sheltered world.

 

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Romney refuses to concede. Pure class.

NOT.

Poor little Mitt. Couldn't get his way and buy the Presidency. If he refuses to accept defeat, then it didn't happen.

In his sheltered world.


He should wait until the votes make it official. Remember Al Gore in 2000?

 

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  posted on 11/6/2012 at 11:46 PM
And since when is 274 electoral votes to 201 (and counting) a "narrow" victory?

Denial is a sad thing....

 

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  posted on 11/6/2012 at 11:49 PM
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That could be avoided if the president, recognizing his narrow base of victory, modified his policies and acted on compromise as Clinton did. But I doubt he will.



Of course he won't, he has no reason too. But he will be held in check for at least 2 years.....

 

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And since when is 274 electoral votes to 201 (and counting) a "narrow" victory?

Denial is a sad thing....


The vote is extremely narrow. There is a single point right now separating the two in Ohio and Florida and a number of other swing states as well. The popular vote is likely to be very narrow in the end. Yes a win is a win and Obama will remain president. But it is obviously narrow. Just as Bush's two elections were narrow.

 

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  posted on 11/6/2012 at 11:55 PM
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And since when is 274 electoral votes to 201 (and counting) a "narrow" victory?

Denial is a sad thing....


Nobody is in denial, except maybe Brofan. The vote was split essentially down the middle 50/50.

 

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  posted on 11/6/2012 at 11:56 PM
Doug it took balls to make the call to begin with, I thought to myself, he's lost his mind. But you're a man of your word and I admire that, thank you.
 

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  posted on 11/6/2012 at 11:57 PM
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Doug it took balls to make the call to begin with, I thought to myself, he's lost his mind. But you're a man of your word and I admire that, thank you.


I really thought it would come down that way and things seemed right on target until the Hurricane hit last week. I'm not sure what went wrong exactly but we will have time to explore that at leisure.

 

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  posted on 11/7/2012 at 12:00 AM
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And what you are forgetting is the same "house" that supposedly kept Obama from pushing his agenda, is still in place.......So while you can say Obama won, (hell I even call that one a while back) what have we as a nation really won....... Nothing but more gridlock IMO

True, and would have been just as true if Romney had been elected. As long as the House and Senate are controlled by opposing parties intent on obstructing each other little can change. Our nation is deeply divided and our federal government reflects that. We put them there.

The real loss by the Republicans tonight (and 2 years ago) is that they missed the opportunity to pick up seats in the Senate and the House because they continue to nominate Tea Party candidates who do not appeal to the general electorate. Christine O'Donnell, Sharon Angle, Ken Buck, Todd Akin, Richard Mourdock....sheesh. Imagine what the Senate might look like had electable candidates been put forth by the Republicans in the last 2 cycles. But instead the Tea Party and right-wing extremists have reeked havoc on the GOP. It's sort of ironic, the Tea Party was born out of opposition to Obama's stimulus and health care initiatives, but it turns out the Tea Party is the best thing that ever happened to Obama and the Democrats. I hope Obama can find a way to break the gridlock in his second term, but I can't see how it's going to happen.

By the way, dougrhon, I was correct. My candidate, Gary Johnson came in a respectable 3rd just as I predicted.

 

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And what you are forgetting is the same "house" that supposedly kept Obama from pushing his agenda, is still in place.......So while you can say Obama won, (hell I even call that one a while back) what have we as a nation really won....... Nothing but more gridlock IMO

True, and would have been just as true if Romney had been elected. As long as the House and Senate are controlled by opposing parties intent on obstructing each other little can change. Our nation is deeply divided and our federal government reflects that. We put them there.

The real loss by the Republicans tonight (and 2 years ago) is that they missed the opportunity to pick up seats in the Senate and the House because they continue to nominate Tea Party candidates who do not appeal to the general electorate. Christine O'Donnell, Sharon Angle, Ken Buck, Todd Akin, Richard Mourdock....sheesh. Imagine what the Senate might look like had electable candidates been put forth by the Republicans in the last 2 cycles. But instead the Tea Party and right-wing extremists have reeked havoc on the GOP. It's sort of ironic, the Tea Party was born out of opposition to Obama's stimulus and health care initiatives, but it turns out the Tea Party is the best thing that ever happened to Obama and the Democrats. I hope Obama can find a way to break the gridlock in his second term, but I can't see how it's going to happen.

By the way, dougrhon, I was correct. My candidate, Gary Johnson came in a respectable 3rd just as I predicted.


I said a week ago after posting an article about major CEOS demanding that taxes be raised in order to reduce the deficit that the GOP's Achilles heel was their knee-jerk refusal to even DISCUSS increasing revenue and being more beholden to Grover Norquist than the American People.

I stand by that statement.

 

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And what you are forgetting is the same "house" that supposedly kept Obama from pushing his agenda, is still in place.......So while you can say Obama won, (hell I even call that one a while back) what have we as a nation really won....... Nothing but more gridlock IMO

True, and would have been just as true if Romney had been elected. As long as the House and Senate are controlled by opposing parties intent on obstructing each other little can change. Our nation is deeply divided and our federal government reflects that. We put them there.

The real loss by the Republicans tonight (and 2 years ago) is that they missed the opportunity to pick up seats in the Senate and the House because they continue to nominate Tea Party candidates who do not appeal to the general electorate. Christine O'Donnell, Sharon Angle, Ken Buck, Todd Akin, Richard Mourdock....sheesh. Imagine what the Senate might look like had electable candidates been put forth by the Republicans in the last 2 cycles. But instead the Tea Party and right-wing extremists have reeked havoc on the GOP. It's sort of ironic, the Tea Party was born out of opposition to Obama's stimulus and health care initiatives, but it turns out the Tea Party is the best thing that ever happened to Obama and the Democrats. I hope Obama can find a way to break the gridlock in his second term, but I can't see how it's going to happen.

By the way, dougrhon, I was correct. My candidate, Gary Johnson came in a respectable 3rd just as I predicted.


Oh no doubt, Harry Reid had already came out and said that he had no intentions of working w/ Romney had he won. So my hopes never were high to begin with..... I thinks as the numbers are finalized, we will see that things are as they have been for the last 4 years, split right down the middle.

 

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  posted on 11/7/2012 at 12:18 AM
I hate to gloat but I told you so. This is two times in a row that the Republicans offered up nothing but far right wing crazies and or moderate candidates willing to flip their core convictions all the way to the far crazy right to get the GOP nomination. Two times in a row it hasn't worked. Romney came off as a complete phony and coreless candidate and that didn't fly with Independent voters like myself. I want a President with convictions who stands for something and doesn't waver on every whim to please the crowd in front of him. Romney just flip flopped his way out of the race. Nobody knew what he really stood for?????

I give him credit for creating the illusion that he won that first debate which made the race a lot closer. However, once that unedited behind closed doors video of Romney dissing 47% of Americans came out all of the nails went in the coffin. I think that even rubbed a lot of the non 47% people the wrong way and tilted them back to Obama.

In the end I see a President that had a mixed bag first term partially his fault and partially out of his hands due to Congressional obstructionism. For me he did a decent job with the incredibly huge mess he was handed. Had the Republicans offered up a more centrist or moderate candidate I and many other Independents may have jumped sides. But I bet next time the GOP do the same thing again and go just as far or further to the right or they will once again for the third time in a row make a moderate candidate flip himself and become a phony candidate and they will lose again unless we do not continue to slowly recover economically.

 

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  posted on 11/7/2012 at 12:23 AM
In a divided country, either winner would have been divisive.

Remember, for a very long time, Romney was not even the most popular Republican candidate among Republicans. I mentioned a few weeks back that it was not too long ago that he was too liberal for most Tea Party types - he invented Obamacare! - and comes off as about authentic a supporter of guns as John Kerry.

His Mormonism made plenty of evangelicals nervous, and overall, Joseph Smith is not a trusted household name.

He started to get better at projecting a more natural, human feel at the end, but he had shot himself in the foot by seeming stiff, out of touch, manufactured, for far too long.

Fact-checking did not help him. He served up plenty of bogus statements that were used against him.

The 47% comment seemed emblematic; that was not the language of a guy who would unite America.

People's association of venture capitalism with profit-over-people also killed him. That is not "saying that capitalism is bad" or that "people hate success"; those are bogus oversimplifications of the very real fact that many Americans feel screwed by the moves that plenty of companies have made in the past few decades, moves that have gotten more and more publicized.

Plenty of top execs, in banks and corporations, keep making self-serving decisions that cost a lot of "little people," whether employees or stockholders or pension holders, quite a bit. Romney looked and sounded like someone who stepped right of the news stories about Enron or Goldman Sachs execs who made great profit at the expense of others. And yes, that image can lead to bogus oversimplifications and the demonization of corporate America, but that is the zeitgeist that undid Romney in many voters' minds.

I do not see Obama as the uniter either. He is an aloof Harvard teacher. He is black. He has a foreign-sounding name. He is more of a rhetorician than a plain speaker. He slammed "God and guns." He seems as out of touch with as many of the "common man" as Romney does, but in different ways.

Again, I do not know who could unite a divided country right now. It ain't Obama, but I saw little that suggested that Romney could be that guy either. When the smoke clears, I think many Republicans will see that too.

 

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And what you are forgetting is the same "house" that supposedly kept Obama from pushing his agenda, is still in place.......So while you can say Obama won, (hell I even call that one a while back) what have we as a nation really won....... Nothing but more gridlock IMO


That could be avoided if the president, recognizing his narrow base of victory, modified his policies and acted on compromise as Clinton did. But I doubt he will.

Incidentally I MAY also be wrong about the thing I was certain of. That Romney would not win the popular vote and lose the electoral. That may still happen. I will have to re-examine a lot of what I thought I knew about American politics. We really are truly divided. Both parties ought to start thinking about how to expand their coalitions. This is not healthy in the long run for the country.


He already has modified and tried to reach across the aisle but you have to have somebody to work with. Obama pissed off his own party on more than a couple of decisions he made including the last extention of the Bush tax rates. They obstructed even on issues the Republicans had previously supported as to not give Obama positive credit for anything. All of the Obama positives he created on his own and with just a small modecom of compromise his positives could have and should have been much better. Well, McConnel, Boehner and company didn't get their election time four years ago wish of their goal to make Obama a one term President. Wonder if they will continue to obstruct because if they do they will be the ones getting voted out in two years.

 

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  posted on 11/7/2012 at 12:33 AM
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In a divided country, either winner would have been divisive.

Remember, for a very long time, Romney was not even the most popular Republican candidate among Republicans. I mentioned a few weeks back that it was not too long ago that he was too liberal for most Tea Party types - he invented Obamacare! - and comes off as about authentic a supporter of guns as John Kerry.

His Mormonism made plenty of evangelicals nervous, and overall, Joseph Smith is not a trusted household name.

He started to get better at projecting a more natural, human feel at the end, but he had shot himself in the foot by seeming stiff, out of touch, manufactured, for far too long.

Fact-checking did not help him. He served up plenty of bogus statements that were used against him.

The 47% comment seemed emblematic; that was not the language of a guy who would unite America.

People's association of venture capitalism with profit-over-people also killed him. That is not "saying that capitalism is bad" or that "people hate success"; those are bogus oversimplifications of the very real fact that many Americans feel screwed by the moves that plenty of companies have made in the past few decades, moves that have gotten more and more publicized.

Plenty of top execs, in banks and corporations, keep making self-serving decisions that cost a lot of "little people," whether employees or stockholders or pension holders, quite a bit. Romney looked and sounded like someone who stepped right of the news stories about Enron or Goldman Sachs execs who made great profit at the expense of others. And yes, that image can lead to bogus oversimplifications and the demonization of corporate America, but that is the zeitgeist that undid Romney in many voters' minds.

I do not see Obama as the uniter either. He is an aloof Harvard teacher. He is black. He has a foreign-sounding name. He is more of a rhetorician than a plain speaker. He slammed "God and guns." He seems as out of touch with as many of the "common man" as Romney does, but in different ways.

Again, I do not know who could unite a divided country right now. It ain't Obama, but I saw little that suggested that Romney could be that guy either. When the smoke clears, I think many Republicans will see that too.




Very thoughtful analysis....I think you are right on with many of those points.

 

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In a divided country, either winner would have been divisive.

Remember, for a very long time, Romney was not even the most popular Republican candidate among Republicans. I mentioned a few weeks back that it was not too long ago that he was too liberal for most Tea Party types - he invented Obamacare! - and comes off as about authentic a supporter of guns as John Kerry.

His Mormonism made plenty of evangelicals nervous, and overall, Joseph Smith is not a trusted household name.

He started to get better at projecting a more natural, human feel at the end, but he had shot himself in the foot by seeming stiff, out of touch, manufactured, for far too long.

Fact-checking did not help him. He served up plenty of bogus statements that were used against him.

The 47% comment seemed emblematic; that was not the language of a guy who would unite America.

People's association of venture capitalism with profit-over-people also killed him. That is not "saying that capitalism is bad" or that "people hate success"; those are bogus oversimplifications of the very real fact that many Americans feel screwed by the moves that plenty of companies have made in the past few decades, moves that have gotten more and more publicized.

Plenty of top execs, in banks and corporations, keep making self-serving decisions that cost a lot of "little people," whether employees or stockholders or pension holders, quite a bit. Romney looked and sounded like someone who stepped right of the news stories about Enron or Goldman Sachs execs who made great profit at the expense of others. And yes, that image can lead to bogus oversimplifications and the demonization of corporate America, but that is the zeitgeist that undid Romney in many voters' minds.

I do not see Obama as the uniter either. He is an aloof Harvard teacher. He is black. He has a foreign-sounding name. He is more of a rhetorician than a plain speaker. He slammed "God and guns." He seems as out of touch with as many of the "common man" as Romney does, but in different ways.

Again, I do not know who could unite a divided country right now. It ain't Obama, but I saw little that suggested that Romney could be that guy either. When the smoke clears, I think many Republicans will see that too.


Romney was definitely not the Republicans top choice but the one out of a terrible field that they thought could beat Obama. This election wasn't about anyone's love for Romney and I don't see how anybody could truly think he was a strong candidate in any way. This election was about the right's extreme hate of Obama that started long before he ever took office as President. They hated him then, they hate him now, and they will hate him tomorrow and would cast their vote for probably just about anyone who opposed him.

 

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I hate to gloat but I told you so. This is two times in a row that the Republicans offered up nothing but far right wing crazies and or moderate candidates willing to flip their core convictions all the way to the far crazy right to get the GOP nomination. Two times in a row it hasn't worked. Romney came off as a complete phony and coreless candidate and that didn't fly with Independent voters like myself. I want a President with convictions who stands for something and doesn't waver on every whim to please the crowd in front of him. Romney just flip flopped his way out of the race. Nobody knew what he really stood for?????

I give him credit for creating the illusion that he won that first debate which made the race a lot closer. However, once that unedited behind closed doors video of Romney dissing 47% of Americans came out all of the nails went in the coffin. I think that even rubbed a lot of the non 47% people the wrong way and tilted them back to Obama.

In the end I see a President that had a mixed bag first term partially his fault and partially out of his hands due to Congressional obstructionism. For me he did a decent job with the incredibly huge mess he was handed. Had the Republicans offered up a more centrist or moderate candidate I and many other Independents may have jumped sides. But I bet next time the GOP do the same thing again and go just as far or further to the right or they will once again for the third time in a row make a moderate candidate flip himself and become a phony candidate and they will lose again unless we do not continue to slowly recover economically.


Pretty tough to win when you are caught behind closed doors demonizing 47% of the nation. That's a lot of electoral votes. Possibly the stupidest political move - and at THE worst possible time - EVER.

Especially when the jerk that said it reminds many of that 47% of the guy who put them out on the street. And then enriched himself after bankrupting the company they once worked for.

Spin it any way you want, GOP. I wouldn't trust Romney as far as I could throw him. And neither would any of the auto workers in Michigan that Willard would have gladly thrown under the bus and STILL continues to repeat, over and over like a broken record, that he was right and Obama was wrong. As I said before, denial is a sad thing. but SOME people learn from their mistakes. And some don't.

Obviously he was surrounded by a lot of WELL - PAID Yes men who only told him what he wanted to hear.

BTW, GREAT post, sixty8.

And I agree too - I wasn't sold on voting again for Obama. But Romney's 47% gaffe (and people make fun of Biden?) made the choice VERY easy. There was NO WAY IN HELL I would cast my vote the guy who said that. And any working person who did would have gotten what he deserved. Unfortunately so would everybody else who didn't deserve it.

 

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  posted on 11/7/2012 at 12:51 AM
Well Doug, it looks like I was incorrect as well. Obama did a lot better than I thought We were both wrong.

I didn't expect him to win Florida or Virginia, and right now it looks like he will win both. Even without Ohio, Virginia, or Florida, he would still be President with 271 electoral votes. I didn't think he would have that much cushion to work with.

I'm particularly annoyed that Obama had to go and win the popular vote and ruin my dark horse prediction that Romney would win the popular vote, but Obama would win the electoral vote. Jeez Obama, couldn't you have eased off a little bit to make me look like a genius? Thanks for nothing!

All kidding aside, I really think Hurricane Sandy was the tipping point. Doug made some good points about how undecideds usually break late for the challenger, but I think Christie's praise and Obama's leadership in a time of crisis made this an exception to the rule, and a lot of undecided voters broke for Obama.

Just heard that Romney has called Obama and conceded. It's officially over, and Obama will never run for office again, so hopefully Republicans can get over their obsession with defeating him and focus that energy on something more positive.

 
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I hate to gloat but I told you so. This is two times in a row that the Republicans offered up nothing but far right wing crazies and or moderate candidates willing to flip their core convictions all the way to the far crazy right to get the GOP nomination. Two times in a row it hasn't worked. Romney came off as a complete phony and coreless candidate and that didn't fly with Independent voters like myself. I want a President with convictions who stands for something and doesn't waver on every whim to please the crowd in front of him. Romney just flip flopped his way out of the race. Nobody knew what he really stood for?????

I give him credit for creating the illusion that he won that first debate which made the race a lot closer. However, once that unedited behind closed doors video of Romney dissing 47% of Americans came out all of the nails went in the coffin. I think that even rubbed a lot of the non 47% people the wrong way and tilted them back to Obama.

In the end I see a President that had a mixed bag first term partially his fault and partially out of his hands due to Congressional obstructionism. For me he did a decent job with the incredibly huge mess he was handed. Had the Republicans offered up a more centrist or moderate candidate I and many other Independents may have jumped sides. But I bet next time the GOP do the same thing again and go just as far or further to the right or they will once again for the third time in a row make a moderate candidate flip himself and become a phony candidate and they will lose again unless we do not continue to slowly recover economically.


Pretty tough to win when you are caught behind closed doors demonizing 47% of the nation. That's a lot of electoral votes. Possibly the stupidest political move - and at THE worst possible time - EVER.

Especially when the jerk that said it reminds many of that 47% of the guy who put them out on the street. And then enriched himself after bankrupting the company they once worked for.

Spin it any way you want, GOP. I wouldn't trust Romney as far as I could throw him. And neither would any of the auto workers in Michigan that Willard would have gladly thrown under the bus and STILL continues to repeat, over and over like a broken record, that he was right and Obama was wrong. As I said before, denial is a sad thing. but SOME people learn from their mistakes. And some don't.

Obviously he was surrounded by a lot of WELL - PAID Yes men who only told him what he wanted to hear.

BTW, GREAT post, sixty8.

And I agree too - I wasn't sold on voting again for Obama. But Romney's 47% gaffe (and people make fun of Biden?) made the choice VERY easy. There was NO WAY IN HELL I would cast my vote the guy who said that. And any working person who did would have gotten what he deserved. Unfortunately so would everybody else who didn't deserve it.


After reading posts like these two, I return to the exact same question. If it's been mishandled so badly and the GOP is as futile as the drama queens crack it up to be, how the hell did Romney win HALF the votes in this election? Can you explain that?


 

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  posted on 11/7/2012 at 01:08 AM
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Well Doug, it looks like I was incorrect as well. Obama did a lot better than I thought We were both wrong.

I didn't expect him to win Florida or Virginia, and right now it looks like he will win both. Even without Ohio, Virginia, or Florida, he would still be President with 271 electoral votes. I didn't think he would have that much cushion to work with.

I'm particularly annoyed that Obama had to go and win the popular vote and ruin my dark horse prediction that Romney would win the popular vote, but Obama would win the electoral vote. Jeez Obama, couldn't you have eased off a little bit to make me look like a genius? Thanks for nothing!

All kidding aside, I really think Hurricane Sandy was the tipping point. Doug made some good points about how undecideds usually break late for the challenger, but I think Christie's praise and Obama's leadership in a time of crisis made this an exception to the rule, and a lot of undecided voters broke for Obama.

Just heard that Romney has called Obama and conceded. It's officially over, and Obama will never run for office again, so hopefully Republicans can get over their obsession with defeating him and focus that energy on something more positive.


The tea party should hang themselves as this is proof that obstructionism is not what the American people want. The country has moved to the center not the far left and the far right should open their eyes and realize that we are not a "white" country anymore. There are many cultures here now that have say.

The GOP should take a good look inward a realize they spent 4 years making nothing happen but to see the American public tell them this is the direction we want to go. So compromise should be re-invented so we as a country can now move forward at a pace we deserve and not at the hand of a few crazies bent on destruction of our society to prove their incompetent and prejudical values

 

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