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  posted on 1/27/2004 at 07:57 PM
With warren being in mule and p&f, and touring with the dead, and Derek being in dtb, and marc doing his salsa stuff, and im prertty sure oteil is in some side band, when do they have time to pracitce, dereks goin to a bunch of places now, a monmth beofre the beacon run, warren will be in cali soon with the dead, not only when does abb have time to practice, but what about all these other bands lkike p*fand ddtb, and the dead etc????

 

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  posted on 1/27/2004 at 08:08 PM
Warren said that they try to get some good practice in but they take too many breaks and they stop for dinner and things like that. They're making time somehow. Yeah Oteil is in Frogwings. They all have stuff going on.

 

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  posted on 1/27/2004 at 08:13 PM
even if they can't get together too much, I'm sure they all have their own
discipline to keep themselves sharp. The evidence is that Warren, Derek
and Oteil keep sharp by keeping busy. I'm sure all will be turning their
focus on the ABB as March approaches.

Sound's like a job for "Hittin the Note" magazine to investigate.

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  posted on 1/27/2004 at 08:16 PM
Frogwings...are they still playing. If so, with Popper and Herring? Any tour info available?

 

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  posted on 1/27/2004 at 08:22 PM
Frogwings is no more. They haven't played in over 3 years or so. Too many projects with everyone in the band doing multiple things...

As far as rehearsing goes you are dealing with musicians that play on a VERY high level. The ABB can rehearse for a week and be pretty tight. Most of these bands have been playing this stuff for years so there is a lot of familiarity with the tunes and how they should be played. They just need to kind of fine-tune so to speak. Obviously if they are introducing new songs to the setlist these might need a little more work than the old faithfuls. Songs like Midnight Rider and Trouble No More may need Very little or No rehearsal whatsoever, they just tighten them up on stage...The Dead or Phil and Friends or The Mule...pretty much the same...hey, these guys are the best of the best, no need for endless amount of practice...

 
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  posted on 1/27/2004 at 08:25 PM
Oteil is in Oteil and the Peacemakers. Check out his site. If you like jazz/funk, you'll like the Peacemakers.

 

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  posted on 1/27/2004 at 08:30 PM
Oteil is also in Vida Blue. They just were here in DC.

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  posted on 1/27/2004 at 08:48 PM
They usually work together for about a week prior to the Beacon. You'd have to compare everybody's schedule to figure out exactly when. Gregg, Butch and Jaimoe probably don't have anything else musical on tap, and Warren, Oteil and Derek have their own bands. Marc could be doing session work or a number of things. Their first gig last year was in Florida before the Beacon. They didn't rehearse at all prior to that and it didn't seem to matter. Then they got together, rehearsed, and did the Beacon. The impression I get is that when they start rehearing, they can go for a pretty long time... they just don't do it over a long period of days.

 

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  posted on 1/27/2004 at 10:34 PM
Funny thing, though. I was watching a video (Thanks Clay), I believe of Beacon 01 or 02.
Gregg had the sheet music for Old Before My Time. Turned pages while singing the lyrics.

Several times during last year's tour, he scrambled some verses.

Too bad. As auto-biographical as the song seems, he doesn't sound familiar/comfortable with it.

 

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  posted on 1/27/2004 at 10:35 PM
Except on the album.

He nails the sucker there.

 

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  posted on 1/28/2004 at 01:31 AM
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Eventually, he had Dickey sing it.

And Dickey had trouble with it, too.

Old Before My Time is unusually wordy for an ABB song (just like Nobody Knows), maybe that's the problem. He used lyric sheets on many of the new songs during 2001 - I remember all the talk on the site about his reading glasses. I hope to see lyric sheets and glasses again this year, since that means new stuff.

 

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  posted on 1/28/2004 at 06:58 AM
In fact, Marley, I've been thinking how great it would be if they opened the Beacon run with a new song. Logistically, I don't see how it would be possible since so many of the principals are doing other projects, but it WOULD be cool, nonetheless.

 

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  posted on 1/28/2004 at 12:23 PM
Gregg is actually very good when it come to remembering lyrics. Yes he reads occasionally but that is usually with the newer songs when they are first breaking them out. Any singer forgets lyrics from time to time. I've seen Bob Weir mix up the lyrics to "Truckin" many times over the years and he has sang it hundreds of times. Its obviously harder than it looks, especially when you have a 35 year history with lots and lots of songs in your catalog.
 
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  posted on 1/28/2004 at 12:35 PM
I remember reading somewhere that people were amazed that Garcia could sing every lyric to a song like Vision of Johanna (Dylan tune with a lot of words ) and not mess up once and then screw up Casey Jones or something, songs he's been singing for years....

 

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  posted on 1/28/2004 at 01:02 PM
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Warren said that they try to get some good practice in but they take too many breaks and they stop for dinner and things like that.


Someone correct me if I'm mistaken, but that's a quote from the Beacon DVD and Warren was referring to that being the case during the last part of he and Woody's initial stint with the band back in the 90's... I don't think he's referring to how it is with the current lineup...


 

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  posted on 1/28/2004 at 01:03 PM
Agreed.

 

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  posted on 1/28/2004 at 01:47 PM
For the most part the ABB are good with their lyrics. For a long time, I never understood what Gregg was singing anyway

Bob Weir is absolutely notorious for screwing up lyrics. He does it now, and he did it way back when.

Garcia was always pretty good, except near the end of his life, where even teleprompters couldn't help.

 

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  posted on 1/28/2004 at 03:57 PM
There's a point in "The Deepest End" where Warren has no idea what the words are to "Sweet Leaf" so he stalls by playing a solo and has Matt do a solo also until the lyrics are found. Some pretty good improvisation !

 

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  posted on 1/28/2004 at 04:59 PM
When the Mule did Eminence Front in Lawrence Ks. a couple of months ago, Warren stalled on the lyrics towards the end of the song. I have a Kansas City show where he talks about finding the lyrics to a song on the Internet just that day. Tina and I were at that show as well, and he didn't bother to try and flub through it, he read the lyrics off a sheet.

 

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Warren said that they try to get some good practice in but they take too many breaks and they stop for dinner and things like that.
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Someone correct me if I'm mistaken, but that's a quote from the Beacon DVD and Warren was referring to that being the case during the last part of he and Woody's initial stint with the band back in the 90's... I don't think he's referring to how it is with the current lineup...


Correct...

If you watch The DVD it is clear that Warren was talking about The Dickey/Warren/Woody era when he mentioned the difficulty the band had about rehearsals and/or recording sessions from that time. In other words it was a struggle back then - probably another sign that things were starting to go sour even that far back in time. They clearly mention on the DVD how smoothly the HTN sessions went and that they had a blast making the record/CD and really got down to business with no distractions or power trips. Sounds refreshing to me...
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  posted on 1/29/2004 at 02:27 AM
In late 2002, I saw Gov't Mule do Wasted Time and I've Got Dreams to Remember for the first time ever, and Trampled Underfoot for the second time... I think Warren used lyric sheets for all three songs.

 

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  posted on 1/29/2004 at 09:06 AM
So he is mortal....hmmmmm

 

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  posted on 1/29/2004 at 01:58 PM
I'm sure ABB members have come to know eachother's riff so well that they don't need a great deal of practice!! After all aren't they regarded as one of the greatest JAM bands of all time!!! I did, however, carefully select March 20th as my target date for tickets at the Beacon....not only because it is a Saturday night when most everbody's psych is peaking, but also because the band will have been through the first two performances and will doubtlessly have discussed between them the stong points and weaker ones.

This is my first post on this marvelous website and March 20th will be my first time to the Beacon. I've not been able to find a website that can tell me about the Beacon Theatre. Can anybody tell me the address of one??? If not, what is the seating capacity of the place???

Can't tell ya'll how excited me and farmgirl are about this trip coming up to the Big Apple for the Big Show!!!

 

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  posted on 1/29/2004 at 03:43 PM
Welcome Farmboy! I don't think there is a Beacon website. But it holds in the neighborhood of 3,000 people.

 

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  posted on 1/29/2004 at 03:46 PM
I think the seating capacity for the Beacon is about 2800.

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I'm sure ABB members have come to know eachother's riff so well that they don't need a great deal of practice!! After all aren't they regarded as one of the greatest JAM bands of all time!!!

Don't let them hear you say that, they hate being called a jamband. You need to practice even if you improvise a bunch- you have to stay tight.

 

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