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  posted on 9/25/2012 at 09:35 AM
I wholeheartedly agree with the assessment which follows by Sports Illustrated's Peter King. What do you go to a concert for?? I go for an audio and visual experience, take it home in my head and write about it. Write? Hell, only a geek would do such a thing, correct?


"Drove over to see Bruce Springsteen at the Meadowlands Wednesday night. Tailgated with our friends Jack and Karin, and a few others joined the parking lot party, including two women from near Sydney, Australia, celebrating their 50th birthdays this year by touring New York and New England and seeing Springsteen for the first time.

So the show starts. We're in an upper tier, last row. The fourth song is "Hungry Heart," which has the crowd going. The fifth song, "We Take Care of Our Own," is one of my new faves, from his latest album. I notice the four guys next me, maybe in their late 20s, all have their iPhones out, texting or reading email during the song. Next song: "Wrecking Ball." Now a few others, including the three people in the row in front of us closest to us, have their phones out. They're texting or reading. "Death to My Hometown" is next, and I look around, and it seems half the section is fooling around with phones.

We're such cellaholics. I get that. But outdoor concert events like this one, these are the nights where the experience should be enough to make you put away the phone (or at least stash it until you get in the bathroom), unless you're just writing down the setlist or something like that. If Steve Jobs were still here, I wonder whether he'd feel triumphant that the masses can't live without his invention for three hours, or despondent that the masses can't live without his invention for three hours."


 

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  posted on 9/25/2012 at 09:47 AM
Yes , Good God , can't people appreciate live music onstage ,
without looking down at their hands all evening ? How can you enjoy
the sound when your brain is processing other info at the same time ?
Sad state of affairs we have worked ourselves into . Technology .

 

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  posted on 9/25/2012 at 10:01 AM
Not surprising that your observations go along with the songs he was playing, while they are good songs, they aren't ones the general masses recognize/are there to see him play.

I unfortunately find myself doing this some lately, I saw Kid Rock from the 2nd row a few weeks ago and was taking pictures with my cell phone and putting them on Facebook/texting them to friends. That's a little different, but i still realized I was doing it at one point and put my phone back in my pocket for the rest of the show.

 

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  posted on 9/25/2012 at 10:15 AM
I still have a flip phone - giving me more internet access would be like giving heroin to a junkie

When my son was in college one of his first profs was an old timer; taught one of my best friends 30 years prior. He said that when kids get to have sex for the first time they would then text their friends to tell them - rather than begging for a repeat round. Sad what the internet has done to our way of life

 

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  posted on 9/25/2012 at 10:31 AM
Phone use by others does not even register on my concert annoyance meter. So long as someone is quiet and not puking near me, they can do their own thing. I saw a woman knitting at a Dead show once; thought that was dumb, but she was not bothering anyone.
 

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  posted on 9/25/2012 at 10:43 AM
Perhaps we should open a thread that deals with concert etiquette in general?

 

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  posted on 9/25/2012 at 11:03 AM
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Phone use by others does not even register on my concert annoyance meter. So long as someone is quiet and not puking near me, they can do their own thing. I saw a woman knitting at a Dead show once; thought that was dumb, but she was not bothering anyone.


I agree, I would much rather be near a texter than a drunk. But if they start talking on the phone then I get annoyed

 

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  posted on 9/25/2012 at 11:03 AM
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Phone use by others does not even register on my concert annoyance meter. So long as someone is quiet and not puking near me, they can do their own thing. I saw a woman knitting at a Dead show once; thought that was dumb, but she was not bothering anyone.


I never got that King was saying it was an annoyance to him personally. I DID get that he was saying he thought it was weird. And I agree with him.

 

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  posted on 9/25/2012 at 11:11 AM
Back in April I went to see Boz Scaggs at the "Belly-up Tavern" in Solana Beach. About ten minutes before Boz took the stage, his manager emerged from backstage and approached the mic. "Boz will be out in a few minutes and is excited about performing in front of this crowd" he said to rousing applause... "But Boz has one rule he is very firm on, He does not allow or appreciate taping or filming his performances...if we see a cell phone out during the show, we will assume this is what is happening. Our security people will confiscate your phone or device and erase it's contents, returning your device to you after the concert"..

Well the show starts and there was not a phone to be seen in the crowd......... awesome

if only more artists would take this approach!

 

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  posted on 9/25/2012 at 11:12 AM
To digress, if only slightly:

I've been reading where certain municipalities want to outlaw large-sized sodas - citing it as symptomatic to our nations growing obesity problem.

Just the other day, there was a newspaper article about the brand new I-Phone (not sure which version as it is still early in the day ). The article was accompanied by a photo of the first guy to get the new phone. The guy was obviously at least 40 pounds over weight. There he was - just beaming with his new toy. I could not help but notice that most of the crowd in the photo behind him in line to get the same phone also appeared overweight. Yeah. Blame it on the Coke!

One of the funnier things that I've seen lately was a video of a guy at a baseball game getting beaned by a foul ball as he was texting away. Here's a guy that evidently paid good money for primo seats (right next to the home team dugout) who found some need to text while at the game.

Like Brock, I don't let the use of the cell phone ruin my concert experience - UNLESS the guy/gal finds the need to give his friends at home a detailed play-by-play account of every facet of the show. I mean, if they cared - why didn't they pony up for a ticket?

 

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  posted on 9/25/2012 at 11:19 AM
I've heard from a couple of different sources that these shows in the Meadowlands were not very inspired and in one concert goer's words, "fvcking boring". Maybe that's why a lot of people were on their phones.

 

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  posted on 9/25/2012 at 11:20 AM
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So the show starts. We're in an upper tier, last row.


I think I would do the same if I was sitting in the last row of the upper section in a stadium!
And if I had a smart phone.

What's worst is when you do have good seats and people in front of you are constantly holding phones up snapping pics and vids.
You're watching the show through the viewfinders of all the phones.



And back to stadium shows = STADIUM SHOWS SUCK!

 

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  posted on 9/25/2012 at 11:20 AM
... and by the way - of all the "concert calls" that I have gotten over the years - I don't thing I've ever been able to distinguish exactly which song is being played. Cell phones just don't seem to be the best medium for audio broadcast. I do appreciate the call, though.

 

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  posted on 9/25/2012 at 11:28 AM
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Back in April I went to see Boz Scaggs at the "Belly-up Tavern" in Solana Beach. About ten minutes before Boz took the stage, his manager emerged from backstage and approached the mic. "Boz will be out in a few minutes and is excited about performing in front of this crowd" he said to rousing applause... "But Boz has one rule he is very firm on, He does not allow or appreciate taping or filming his performances...if we see a cell phone out during the show, we will assume this is what is happening. Our security people will confiscate your phone or device and erase it's contents, returning your device to you after the concert"..

Well the show starts and there was not a phone to be seen in the crowd......... awesome

if only more artists would take this approach!


That's standard procedure for the Ramble's at Levon Helm's barn. It makes for a much nicer concert experience.

 

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Back in April I went to see Boz Scaggs at the "Belly-up Tavern" in Solana Beach. About ten minutes before Boz took the stage, his manager emerged from backstage and approached the mic. "Boz will be out in a few minutes and is excited about performing in front of this crowd" he said to rousing applause... "But Boz has one rule he is very firm on, He does not allow or appreciate taping or filming his performances...if we see a cell phone out during the show, we will assume this is what is happening. Our security people will confiscate your phone or device and erase it's contents, returning your device to you after the concert"..

Well the show starts and there was not a phone to be seen in the crowd......... awesome

if only more artists would take this approach!


That's standard procedure for the Ramble's at Levon Helm's barn. It makes for a much nicer concert experience.


That was also how Neil's solo shows in '10 went. The ushers were all over anyone who so much as raised a cellphone. Do not think they took them away, but probably would have kicked them out after the first warning. Neil would not even permit his stage setup to be photographed in the afternoon when we toured the Ryman. That's Neil, and I have no problem w/ the artist dictating show behavior.

I know a judge that, if your cell rings in his courtroom, will take it away and run over it w/ his car!

 

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  posted on 9/25/2012 at 11:55 AM
I don't really like Wilco but here's Jeff Tweedy talking about it at a show..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ScUwlhmuo8

The cats out of the bag IMO for better or worse. I enjoy a text from a friend who's at a show that I'm not at and I send out a concert text or two but it's pretty out of hand. That's different than someone lost in face book in the middle of a sick Dreams going on.

I've gotten good at blocking out talkers and cell phone people from annoying me at shows but between that and the uptight security that is the norm at most shows these days, I find myself going to less and less performances.

Movies are different though. They've been ruined by cell phones and the inconsiderate public. Haven't been to a movie in two or three years. Hollywood sucking also contributes though.

I'd rather have people texting at the shows then in their car on the way home though but the same person who is spending the show doing it is probably doing it while driving. What happened to people's brains to make them think every e-mail or text must be instantly read or responded to ?



[Edited on 9/25/2012 by tommars]

 

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  posted on 9/25/2012 at 12:11 PM
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To digress, if only slightly:

I've been reading where certain municipalities want to outlaw large-sized sodas - citing it as symptomatic to our nations growing obesity problem.

Just the other day, there was a newspaper article about the brand new I-Phone (not sure which version as it is still early in the day ). The article was accompanied by a photo of the first guy to get the new phone. The guy was obviously at least 40 pounds over weight. There he was - just beaming with his new toy. I could not help but notice that most of the crowd in the photo behind him in line to get the same phone also appeared overweight. Yeah. Blame it on the Coke!



So, iPhones make you fat?

 

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  posted on 9/25/2012 at 12:12 PM
I go to the movies at least once a week. Most theaters now run a short video before the movie starts asking patrons to turn off their phones during the movie. I also attend symphony shows. A cell phone there will generally result in a very kind usher taking you by the arm and leading you to the front door.

What ever happened to common courtesy and respect of fellow patrons of a show who have PAID MONEY to enjoy the event without distraction?

 

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  posted on 9/25/2012 at 12:16 PM
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Back in April I went to see Boz Scaggs at the "Belly-up Tavern" in Solana Beach. About ten minutes before Boz took the stage, his manager emerged from backstage and approached the mic. "Boz will be out in a few minutes and is excited about performing in front of this crowd" he said to rousing applause... "But Boz has one rule he is very firm on, He does not allow or appreciate taping or filming his performances...if we see a cell phone out during the show, we will assume this is what is happening. Our security people will confiscate your phone or device and erase it's contents, returning your device to you after the concert"..

Well the show starts and there was not a phone to be seen in the crowd......... awesome

if only more artists would take this approach!
that might be tough to enforce at a springsteen show with 80,000 people.

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To digress, if only slightly:

I've been reading where certain municipalities want to outlaw large-sized sodas - citing it as symptomatic to our nations growing obesity problem.

Just the other day, there was a newspaper article about the brand new I-Phone (not sure which version as it is still early in the day ). The article was accompanied by a photo of the first guy to get the new phone. The guy was obviously at least 40 pounds over weight. There he was - just beaming with his new toy. I could not help but notice that most of the crowd in the photo behind him in line to get the same phone also appeared overweight. Yeah. Blame it on the Coke!



So, iPhones make you fat?


I-Phones, video games, television and even (gasp) internet sites! They're all good, but they tend to take people away from former past times like walking, hiking, playing softball or basketball. You can disagree if you want, but I can see the results in my own extended family! I have consumed a lot of large sodas in my time, but I believe strongly in keeping physical recreation a part of my lifestyle. I know many others who just can't find the time for such. They've texted me to say so!

 

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  posted on 9/25/2012 at 12:24 PM
Regarding Bruce at the Meadowlands, he'd be lucky if the worst that happened during the new songs was people taking out their phones. On his last tour when he was playing a large chunk of the new album, people were leaving in DROVES to go to the bathroom or get beer during the new songs. I'm not surprised at the lack of enthusiasm about the shows at the Meadowlands. Stadiums are a horrible place for a live show; it's why I avoid them entirely.

As for cell phones, what's more annoying than texting is when a ton of people have their phones up high to record the songs. It blocks the view of people behind them. I didnt want to see the show through the lens of their cameraphone. And the quality of these videos is always horrendous, so I dont know why they bother.

Drunkards are worse than texters also: had this drunk as hell couple in front of me at TTB on Saturday. They were "dancing" and the woman kept falling over.

 

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To digress, if only slightly:

I've been reading where certain municipalities want to outlaw large-sized sodas - citing it as symptomatic to our nations growing obesity problem.

Just the other day, there was a newspaper article about the brand new I-Phone (not sure which version as it is still early in the day ). The article was accompanied by a photo of the first guy to get the new phone. The guy was obviously at least 40 pounds over weight. There he was - just beaming with his new toy. I could not help but notice that most of the crowd in the photo behind him in line to get the same phone also appeared overweight. Yeah. Blame it on the Coke!



So, iPhones make you fat?


I-Phones, video games, television and even (gasp) internet sites! They're all good, but they tend to take people away from former past times like walking, hiking, playing softball or basketball. You can disagree if you want, but I can see the results in my own extended family! I have consumed a lot of large sodas in my time, but I believe strongly in keeping physical recreation a part of my lifestyle. I know many others who just can't find the time for such. They've texted me to say so!


I don't necessarily disagree completely, but to me lazy is lazy, no matter what one uses to justify making poor choices. No one ever talks about obsessive knitting making anyone fat. You either exercise or you don't. What you are doing instead of not exercising doesn't matter.

 

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  posted on 9/25/2012 at 02:40 PM
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To digress, if only slightly:

I've been reading where certain municipalities want to outlaw large-sized sodas - citing it as symptomatic to our nations growing obesity problem.

Just the other day, there was a newspaper article about the brand new I-Phone (not sure which version as it is still early in the day ). The article was accompanied by a photo of the first guy to get the new phone. The guy was obviously at least 40 pounds over weight. There he was - just beaming with his new toy. I could not help but notice that most of the crowd in the photo behind him in line to get the same phone also appeared overweight. Yeah. Blame it on the Coke!

So, iPhones make you fat?
Only when eaten and chased by 64 oz Coke.

Will admit to finding it silly when I see all the phones out at shows but that's just because I prefer to not watch my show through a cellphone viewfinder and like to keep my thoughts on the music happening before me. But to each their own ... as long as folks aren't obnoxious about it - interfering with other concert goers experience, who am I to say? If I didn't have a cellphone supplied to me for work on call I'm not sure I'd even have one ... and the one I have is a flip phone... not conducive to texting, etc.

 

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  posted on 9/25/2012 at 03:07 PM
I hate smart phones at shows, and especially at movies. People turning them on and off, with their bright screens in the dark is very distracting. I also don't understand why everybody has to record the whole show. I saw Bob Mould a couple of weeks ago, and some guy stood right in front of him in the front row and held his phone recording the entire show.

I was at a movie theater, and finally had to tell the girl in front of me to turn it off. You could see it was killing her to not check her texts. This was for Inception, where you had to pay attention........

I saw John Oliver in Madison last weekend, and people just couldn't wait to check their messages during the show - it is very distracting....

I just have a flip phone, and my only use at a show is to give Lee a concert call during Soulshine or Rocking Horse..........

 

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  posted on 9/25/2012 at 03:26 PM
I don't like it.
But I admit, I take a snapshot or two at a show if I'm close to the stage.
Having said that, I left the phone at home for a show this weekend.

I too, don't get the need to post sh*t to a Facebook page as its happening, or hold the phone up so someone can hear a particular song.
We've all had a friend thats done it, and what does it sound like? sh*t.
Considerate, but not necessary.

I've commented a couple times, when folks are checking texts or talking on the phone,
"you know, you're missing a pretty good show here" and I get the stare back like I'm the rudest MFer on the planet.....

 

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