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  posted on 7/3/2012 at 09:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc2xvEa4Qw0&feature=related

 

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  posted on 7/3/2012 at 11:15 PM
I remember when that movie came out. The local rock station had a midnight premiere showing. Everyone had cases of beer and dope everywhere. Crazier than regular concerts. People staggering out of the theater the next morning. This version of Sabbath had better nights but it still rocks.

 

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  posted on 7/4/2012 at 01:55 PM
Love Dio on the songs he penned with Sabbath but never liked the way he sounded on the classic Ozzy Sabbath stuff.

 

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  posted on 7/4/2012 at 02:23 PM
Yeah. Dio had that great melodramatic quality like a Shakespearean actor. He was too colorful to do Ozzy's material, which had a grittier feel. I love ' em both with their own Sabbath stuff.

 

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  posted on 7/5/2012 at 08:52 AM
Never cared for this line up doing older Sabbath material either. Dio was one thing, but Appice gave the music his usual stamp of playing behind the others and it doesn't click well. IMHO

 

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  posted on 7/5/2012 at 10:11 AM
Ha Hah ! This is great. I love Neon Knights and Dio's theatrics. Looking back how parents thought these guys were out to turn their kids into devil worshippers is pretty funny.

I can just imagine how fun this show must have been. Nassau 80. The LI dirt bags ( Hey I'm one of them, but was only 6 years old at the time) must have been going crazy. I don't know how that building is still standing....

 

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  posted on 7/5/2012 at 01:25 PM
I guess I am in the minority, I liked hearing DIO
sing the old Ozzy stuff. Gave it a little different flair
and feeling I guess.

So what about Gillan singing the Sabbath stuff?


 

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  posted on 7/5/2012 at 01:37 PM
Actually I thought Ian Gillan was better at singing the Ozzy stuff than Dio but ironically I didn't care at all for any of the Gillan original Sabbath material.

 

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  posted on 7/5/2012 at 02:21 PM
Watching the video now. I wish Dio would shut up during Iommi's solo on "Neon Knights." That's why lead singers should have to play an instrument.

 

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  posted on 7/5/2012 at 03:09 PM
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So what about Gillan singing the Sabbath stuff?




I think Gillan did a great job singing the original Sabbath stuff except for one huge flaw (imo), the need
to extemporaneously scream during the instrumental/riffage sections of the tunes.

Other than Children of the Grave, he sounds really good when he's singing Ozzy's stuff, both the slow things like Black Sabbath, as well as the faster stuff like Supernaut.
But on a tune like War Pigs, the vocal is great, but what's up with the howling and yelping between the verses? ruins it imo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9GAChUcczs

Just to put another spin on this, while I thought Gillan sounded quite good on the Ozzy era material, being relatively high pitched/a bit "thin" for lack of a better word.
I thought Ian was pretty weak on the Dio era stuff, and didn't have the mid-range power (amazingly enough) to do justice on those tunes.
Imo, shows just how great a vocalist the late RJD truly was.

As for the Born Again stuff, I dug 1/2 of it, although I wasn't much for the sound of it (kind of a dull throb with jagged edges of Iommi guitar occasionally cutting above the mix) and would love to hear Iommi try to play "Trashed" live.

 

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  posted on 7/5/2012 at 05:05 PM
I have only heard a few boots of Ian with Sab, I could not say for sure. I liked Born Again , good stuff. I am partial to Gillan, big Purple fan.

How about Halford with Sab
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-4BthN-TjA&feature=related

Iommi and Gillan WHO Cares Project(Ian Gillan, Tony Iommi, Lord, Newsted, McBrain, Lindstroem)
Out Of My Mind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2vxQApPg40

Trashed -2007 version from Gillans solo album,Iommi on guitar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpyahm3RmVA

Zero the hero
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwoT9_StEfY


In for The Kill-Sab with Glenn Hughes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPCuwXXgMzc

Black Moon -Sab with Tony Martin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0138tjgCkIA


Born to lose-Sab with Ray Gillen-quality is not the greatest, but this guys had some pipes,RIP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bPfdWWQJ68

Slipping Away Live
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkTKzaKPIjM

..Just thought these were pretty cool!!
JON LORD - Soldier Of Fortune
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RbJLyD17GQ&feature=related

Child InTime
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NO3QRlqzFk&feature=related

Pictures of Home
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0n0kwsXGh9g&feature=related

 

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  posted on 7/7/2012 at 07:13 PM
Ray Gillen sure did have some great pipes. I need to track down some of his stuff.

I believe the remastered version of 7th Star from afew years back had a live disc with Gillen.

 

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  posted on 7/7/2012 at 07:19 PM
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Ray Gillen sure did have some great pipes. I need to track down some of his stuff.




Badlands and Sun Red Sun are some of his other stuff.

I saw Sabbath w/ Ian and it was bad @$$. The Stonehenge stage set was so Sabbathy

 

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  posted on 7/7/2012 at 07:37 PM
I saw his first show with Sabbath at the New Haven Colleseum. At first we wondered why Glenn Hughes sounded so good! Triple bill with Anthrax and wasp.
 
 


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