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  posted on 6/25/2012 at 07:00 AM
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Def Leppard are reportedly going to rerecord all of their hit singles after failing to reach an agreement to release the original tracks.


The band, who recently rolled out new versions of Pour Some Sugar on Me and Rock of Ages, will be giving other songs in their catalog the same treatment.


Singer Joe Elliott calls the move a “sensible business decision”, but admits trying to make accurate reproductions is difficult.


Elliott tells MTV Hive, “How can I put this politely? We were having a major disagreement with out ex record label about the digital rights for our back catalog. We couldn’t come to a mutual understanding that seemed fair for both sides. So we finally decided to rerecord all our hits. We started with Sugar and Rock of Ages and I think we did a pretty good job – but it’s hard work trying to recreate something you did 30 years ago."


Def Leppard's goal is to create “100% forgeries” of their original songs, and the singer insists it would be a mistake to try changing any aspect of the tracks.


“It’s not like a live version where everything a bit looser and you’ve got the ad libs, the longer guitar solos and the crowd in the background. We were very conscious of the fact that when people download our songs from iTunes they want it to sound like they remember it.


There’s nothing worse than being let down by an artist you love. There’s a guy called Andrew Gold – back in the seventies he had a song called Lonely Boy that’s just wonderful. When we were on tour it popped into my head, so I went to download what I thought was the original. I ended up getting a rerecording. It was like a crappy karaoke version.”


Elliott maintains it would be “pretty sad” to try reshooting videos to go with the new tracks. He says, “It’s easy to reproduce the sound and get it to match, but we can’t go in a time machine and get rid of the wrinkles. We are what we are. I’m 52; I’ll be 53 in a few months. It would be ridiculous.”



[Edited on 6/25/2012 by jszfunk]

 

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  posted on 6/25/2012 at 11:04 AM
Def Leppard sucked in 1983. What makes them classic now?

 

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  posted on 6/25/2012 at 11:19 AM
Twisted Sister did the same thing for the same reason. It's a shame the record companies can't come to an equitable deal on the originals.

They are classic now because lots of people really liked their pop-rock schmaltz and now the fans are older and bored by the crap on the radio so they look backward and remember the good old days of pouring sugar on each other and watching the night go up in smoke. Rock on.

 

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The 100 million albums they've sold might have something to do with it.

 

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  posted on 6/25/2012 at 12:52 PM
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Did they suck before 1983?

 

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  posted on 6/25/2012 at 12:57 PM
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Did they suck before 1983?


Well, yeah... They created a huge vacuous vortex when they formed.

I just remember that summer and that garbage was seemingly everywhere.

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  posted on 6/25/2012 at 01:00 PM
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Twisted Sister did the same thing for the same reason. It's a shame the record companies can't come to an equitable deal on the originals.




Winner, winner, chicken dinner.

Young band is just starting out, and they sign away a huge amount of their royalties just to get that record contract. (In this case I believe Mercury/Polygram, which I'm sure now someone else has those rights)

So while they get taken, for better or worse, in the first go around, the band and some of its songs, riding on the popularity of Broadway shows and movies, no longer thinks that split is right on their older material.
So they re-record the tunes, and get paid.
Good business decision versus the business decision they made 30 years ago.

 

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Twisted Sister did the same thing for the same reason. It's a shame the record companies can't come to an equitable deal on the originals.




Winner, winner, chicken dinner.

Young band is just starting out, and they sign away a huge amount of their royalties just to get that record contract. (In this case I believe Mercury/Polygram, which I'm sure now someone else has those rights)

So while they get taken, for better or worse, in the first go around, the band and some of its songs, riding on the popularity of Broadway shows and movies, no longer thinks that split is right on their older material.
So they re-record the tunes, and get paid.
Good business decision versus the business decision they made 30 years ago.


It's an old story yet it keeps happening.

How do I collect that chicken dinner?

 

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  posted on 6/25/2012 at 02:20 PM
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Winner, winner, chicken dinner.



How do I collect that chicken dinner?/


don't start any more metal threads

 

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Def Leppard sucked in 1983. What makes them classic now?


Did they suck before 1983?


Well, yeah... They created a huge vacuous vortex when they formed.

I just remember that summer and that garbage was seemingly everywhere.

[Edited on 6/25/2012 by alanwoods]


Just because you do not like a certain type or style of music that really does not mean it sucks. I am not really a Def Leppard fan at all. They're early stuff was pretty decent than all that " hair " stuff came in which I never cared for.

There is alot of music I do not like , but I would not bash it by any means. I am not a Hendrix or Vaughn fan by any means and could carel ess if I ever hear any of they're music, but I know well enough those guys are some of the most influential talented guitar players to ever walk the earth. I try an be objective and open minded about things.
If the world just revolved around whirly twirly hippy dippy jam music it would be a boring place.

 

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  posted on 6/25/2012 at 10:12 PM
I loved the High and Dry album. very AC/DC sounding. After that they got more and more produced.

 

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  posted on 6/26/2012 at 08:39 AM
I always thought most Def Leppard songs were poor forgeries of better hard rock songs by better hard rock bands.

 

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  posted on 6/26/2012 at 08:48 AM
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The 100 million albums they've sold might have something to do with it.


LMAO! Yeah that might be it.

Def Leppard is one band that improved with replacements over the years. Vivian Campbell and Phil Collen are great guitar players. Was never a huge fan of the band but with those guys on board, they are very solid live.

It was the singing that I never really liked.

Phil Collen: "Cause We've Ended As Lovers" (Jeff Beck Cover)

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Vivian Campbell - The band that should have sold much more. Vivian started as the producer and joined the band. Real solid album but got caught near the end of hair metal and never got a fair shake. No hair metal here. The lyrics are deep and good. The guitar work is Vivian's best IMO. They broke up after a while but get together occasionally for some gigs and a rumored album that never happens. My second favorite Vivian album is his blues solo album. "In 2005, he also released a solo album called Two Sides Of If, which features cover versions of his favourite blues tunes and one original blues song. It features two of Rory Gallagher's well known songs, "Messin' with the Kid" and "Calling Card". It also features ZZ Top's Billy Gibbons guest appearing on the songs "Like It This Way" and "Willin' For Satisfaction", and Joan Osborne guest appearing on the song "Spoonful". The album also features drummer Terry Bozzio."



Riverdogs 2004-08-21 San Diego "I Believe"

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Riverdogs - Whisper

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I have the original Riverdogs CD and at least one live show, I think it was radio broadcast. Good solid rock. Not hair metal at all. I first heard of Rory Gallagher because of Viv. He mentioned Rory in an interview in Guitar For The Practicing Musician back in the mid 80's. I was a youngster with no knowledge of the Irish Werewolf and the record stores near me had no Rory. It took several years to find some (at a garage sale of all places) and I've been hooked on Rory ever since. Thanks Viv!

 

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Before 'Pyromania' and all of the commercial hype Def Leopard were a much different band, a lot more heavy. I saw them open up for Ozzy Osbourne on Osbourne's first post Black Sabbath tour and the members of DL were 17 and 18 years old and they kicked @ss. After 'Pyromania came out and they got all of that commercial success they changed completely into the hair bubble gum band they have been ever since. Same type of thing happened to Twisted Sister who were a super hard and heavy band for years until they hit commercial pay dirt with the 'We're Not Gonna Take It' crapola.

 

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I have the original Riverdogs CD and at least one live show, I think it was radio broadcast. Good solid rock. Not hair metal at all. I first heard of Rory Gallagher because of Viv. He mentioned Rory in an interview in Guitar For The Practicing Musician back in the mid 80's. I was a youngster with no knowledge of the Irish Werewolf and the record stores near me had no Rory. It took several years to find some (at a garage sale of all places) and I've been hooked on Rory ever since. Thanks Viv!


Viv has good taste with Rory and Gary Moore as his idols.

The first Riverdogs album is solid from start to finish. I also have a CD sampler sent to radio stations of them doing the album unplugged at various radio stations across the US. All the tunes hold up well unplugged also.

I will always be thankful to Def Leppard for actually getting Gary Moore on this side of the Atlantic to open some shows. Poor bastards had to follow Gary and Ian Paice nightly.

 

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I have to dig out Riverdogs now and listen to it. It's been years. I love getting ideas for listening from this forum.

 

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I have to dig out Riverdogs now and listen to it. It's been years. I love getting ideas for listening from this forum.


Vivian's solos and guitar work on this album are so good. Much better and well rounded than anything before, it caught me off guard a bit when it came out. Has been a constant in rotation ever since. He has told me on a couple of occasions to watch for another one day. Many rumors and get togethers over the years but glad I didn't hold my breath.

 

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