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  posted on 6/14/2012 at 05:45 AM
So tonight I ventured down to my local tavern to watch the Colbert report and to have a few brews. As I'm paying up and readying myself for the walk home, a friend asks me if I want check out his latest score from one of the many local Medicinal pot dispensaries. "Sure" I reply. So myself and two others from the bar stroll outside and walk out behind the establishment. The joint is lit up and passed to me and after a moment or two I in turn pass it to the third gentleman in the group. He politely declines and then proceeds to fire up a Marlboro. I turned to him and asked, "You don't indulge?"... the answer came back, "No, I don't like the effects"... I had a moment to reflect on that one. Thinking to myself while waiting my turn, ....You do not like the effect?... but here you stand smoking tobacco...he must just enjoy the act of smoking. The joint was again passed my way and I in turn ......handed it off. but here he stands smoking tobacco, apparently just for the f of it...the pure pleasure of smoking, exactly what effect does he think cigarettes are currently having on his body? You don't smoke pot because you don't care for the "effects"....but you smoke tobacco?

Maybe it's because I've never smoked tobacco in my life, maybe it's because tobacco was directly responsible for the death of both of my parents.... Possibly because I can't stand the smell, or maybe it's because I was, where I was at that moment. Whatever. It was the logic used... it just escapes me.... I accept the fact that Tobacco is probably eroding certain parts of my well being, but I don't care for the effects of pot ....

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  posted on 6/14/2012 at 07:05 AM
i started when i was 15, im about to turn 31 and smoke about a pack a day. its just a physical/attachment/stress/habitual thing. it sucks, but i do enjoy it. i have been contemplating quiting, as i have never tried. i plan to quit cold turkey, but my old lady better be ready cause i will be a raging a** for a few days
 

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  posted on 6/14/2012 at 07:10 AM
i have also been debating quiting drinking, as i have drank heavily since i was about 15 and i have noticed yellowing in my eyes, that scare me about my liver health. im also thinking about giving up pill abuse diladed/colonopin/xanax and coke,all that s**t.....just everything at once.
just stick to natural stuff like pot/hash/shrooms .......did i share too much info,lol?

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  posted on 6/14/2012 at 09:28 AM
I finally quit cigarettes for good three months ago, I was a chipper. I quit the "habit" four years ago. Still love a good cigar with a scotch, bourbon or red wine once a week.

I loved the taste of a cigarette with a cup of coffee, and I loved the cigarette after eating. Not enough to keep doing it, though. Besides the obvious health risks, there's the cost factor and now the social shunning (which I think is an effective deterrent in its own right).

Logic? I'm not sure there's a blanket answer to that one. The history of tobacco use I think is quite fascinating, going back to perhaps thousands of years BC.

As to the situation you were in, it's clear where the guy was coming from, but you are right, it seems to make little logical sense.

 

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  posted on 6/14/2012 at 10:34 AM
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i started when i was 15, im about to turn 31 and smoke about a pack a day. its just a physical/attachment/stress/habitual thing. it sucks, but i do enjoy it. i have been contemplating quiting, as i have never tried. i plan to quit cold turkey, but my old lady better be ready cause i will be a raging a** for a few days


Quit now. The effects on your body are amazing. The rate at which your body corrects the damage done when you quit are likewise amazing, and are more pronounced depending on age and how long you smoked. Don't wait until they are putting the catheter in your femoral artery to make the decision.

 

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  posted on 6/14/2012 at 10:50 AM
I wish the "just starting" smokers could have spent some time with my mom during her last 4-5 years. She'd given it up a long time ago, but the long-lasting effects (empyhsema, congestive heart failure etc. ) - she couldn't walk 6 feet without gasping for breath. It will catch up to ya!

 

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  posted on 6/14/2012 at 11:39 AM
Its pretty crazy to start up with cigarettes. Nicotine is as addictive as Heroin. It is VERY hard to quit and you never stop craving it even if you do. The health effects are horrific. It is the single greatest factor, beyond genetics, in premature death. I have never smoked a cigarette. My father used to smoke two packs a day. He quit cold turkey thirty plus years ago and told me he still craves it today. Thank God he is alive and well but he has survived a bout of laryngal cancer and had to have his vocal chords removed.

 

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  posted on 6/14/2012 at 12:29 PM
I don't have any cravings. They got scared out of me along with the sh!t.

The sh!t eventually returned...

 

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  posted on 6/14/2012 at 12:52 PM
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Its pretty crazy to start up with cigarettes. Nicotine is as addictive as Heroin. It is VERY hard to quit and you never stop craving it even if you do. The health effects are horrific. It is the single greatest factor, beyond genetics, in premature death. I have never smoked a cigarette. My father used to smoke two packs a day. He quit cold turkey thirty plus years ago and told me he still craves it today. Thank God he is alive and well but he has survived a bout of laryngal cancer and had to have his vocal chords removed.


That is not true for everybody. I smoked cigarettes twice in my life, between the ages of 13 and 15 and again between the ages of 25 to 27. The second time I had to quit due to spinal fusion surgery and haven't touched a cigarette since. It was hard for me for about a month but somewhere along the way I went from craving them to being repulsed by them. That repulsion has lasted to this day and I can't stand to be around anyone smoking cigarettes. Totally disgusting. So not everyone continue to have cravings after they quit Doug. I know other ex smokers who feel the same way I do.

 

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  posted on 6/14/2012 at 01:03 PM
I smoked for thirty years. Quitting was easy, did it hundreds of times. Staying quit was a different story. I would always crave a smoke, especially when I smelled one. Last time I smoked was 6 years ago (seven in October!). Was able to quit cold turkey after some friends of mine "prayed over" me. Say what you will, I never had a craving after that, and from that moment on the smell of cigarettes has totally repulsed me. If you smoke, find a way to quit now!

 

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  posted on 6/14/2012 at 01:21 PM
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Its pretty crazy to start up with cigarettes. Nicotine is as addictive as Heroin. It is VERY hard to quit and you never stop craving it even if you do. The health effects are horrific. It is the single greatest factor, beyond genetics, in premature death. I have never smoked a cigarette. My father used to smoke two packs a day. He quit cold turkey thirty plus years ago and told me he still craves it today. Thank God he is alive and well but he has survived a bout of laryngal cancer and had to have his vocal chords removed.


That is not true for everybody. I smoked cigarettes twice in my life, between the ages of 13 and 15 and again between the ages of 25 to 27. The second time I had to quit due to spinal fusion surgery and haven't touched a cigarette since. It was hard for me for about a month but somewhere along the way I went from craving them to being repulsed by them. That repulsion has lasted to this day and I can't stand to be around anyone smoking cigarettes. Totally disgusting. So not everyone continue to have cravings after they quit Doug. I know other ex smokers who feel the same way I do.


The last few years, I was a chipper. I could have one a day, or none for several days, then 10 during a good evening of beverages. My wife would joke, "Apparently, you only smoke on the weekends?"

 

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Its pretty crazy to start up with cigarettes. Nicotine is as addictive as Heroin. It is VERY hard to quit and you never stop craving it even if you do. The health effects are horrific. It is the single greatest factor, beyond genetics, in premature death. I have never smoked a cigarette. My father used to smoke two packs a day. He quit cold turkey thirty plus years ago and told me he still craves it today. Thank God he is alive and well but he has survived a bout of laryngal cancer and had to have his vocal chords removed.


That is not true for everybody. I smoked cigarettes twice in my life, between the ages of 13 and 15 and again between the ages of 25 to 27. The second time I had to quit due to spinal fusion surgery and haven't touched a cigarette since. It was hard for me for about a month but somewhere along the way I went from craving them to being repulsed by them. That repulsion has lasted to this day and I can't stand to be around anyone smoking cigarettes. Totally disgusting. So not everyone continue to have cravings after they quit Doug. I know other ex smokers who feel the same way I do.


The last few years, I was a chipper. I could have one a day, or none for several days, then 10 during a good evening of beverages. My wife would joke, "Apparently, you only smoke on the weekends?"


That was Rose's goal. She wanted to be able to smoke at parties and other social gatherings and only then. It never worked. After quitting she would always go back to a pack-a-day after the 'social' experiment.

Breast cancer stopped that. She hasn't smoked for 4 years and is cancer free.

 

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  posted on 6/14/2012 at 03:33 PM
Congrats to all those who've quit smoking. May you continue to be empowered!

 

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  posted on 6/14/2012 at 03:39 PM
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Congrats to all those who've quit smoking. May you continue to be empowered!


True dat!

 

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  posted on 6/14/2012 at 03:59 PM
I had the last one ever on St. Patrick's Day. Lit one, took exactly one drag, exhaled, looked at it and said out loud "I don't want this anymore." Threw it away, threw away the few I had left in the pack.

The weirdest thing is that I really haven't wanted one since. On Memorial Day I was at a party surrounded by smokers and it didn't faze me one bit.

 

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  posted on 6/14/2012 at 04:04 PM
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I had the last one ever on St. Patrick's Day. Lit one, took exactly one drag, exhaled, looked at it and said out loud "I don't want this anymore." Threw it away, threw away the few I had left in the pack.

The weirdest thing is that I really haven't wanted one since. On Memorial Day I was at a party surrounded by smokers and it didn't faze me one bit.


its called a moment of clarity or a miracle. Drunks get'em too and put down the drink for good. Congrats!

 

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I had the last one ever on St. Patrick's Day. Lit one, took exactly one drag, exhaled, looked at it and said out loud "I don't want this anymore." Threw it away, threw away the few I had left in the pack.

The weirdest thing is that I really haven't wanted one since. On Memorial Day I was at a party surrounded by smokers and it didn't faze me one bit.


its called a moment of clarity or a miracle. Drunks get'em too and put down the drink for good. Congrats!
Good for you, Jerry! I had my moment of clarity back in February and haven't touched one since. I haven't been around smokers much since and have had a few cravings (usually tied to especially stressful work days) but I haven't picked up since that last cig. It is a tough habit to break, IMO. But I don't ever want to go back.

 

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  posted on 6/14/2012 at 04:31 PM
Is a moment of clarity and being sick of doing something the same thing?

 

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Is a moment of clarity and being sick of doing something the same thing?
Yep - sometimes ... (I personally can recall some moments of clarity that did not involve things I was really sick of doing ... )

 

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  posted on 6/14/2012 at 09:01 PM
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The last few years, I was a chipper. I could have one a day, or none for several days, then 10 during a good evening of beverages. My wife would joke, "Apparently, you only smoke on the weekends?"


Thats how I am. I enjoy a smoke after the kids go to bed, out on the deck, I solve problems at work, come up with landscaping idea's for my yard, vacation plans, etc.

Beers and smokes just go together and you meet all the intersting folks outside a bar in the smoking area.

Maybe when he says he doesn't enjoy the effects he means the effects of the weed as in maybe he gets paranoid, uncomfortable, etc.?

I haven't smoked weed or hash since I could buy beer at age 19. Never really enjoyed smoking dope.

 

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  posted on 6/14/2012 at 09:58 PM
I do smoke weed but after the last few days of having a severe summer cold I have decided to stop using until I get a vaporizer which is far better on the lungs. Right now with the massive coughing I have been doing I don't crave smoking anything. Between the sore throat and the hernia problem I still have I feel like my chest is gonna pop out of me like in the movie 'Aliens'!!!

 

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  posted on 6/14/2012 at 10:38 PM
Haven't smoked weed since the mid 70's, tried a few different pills, but never really cared for the effects, never did coke or heroin, occasionally drink a glass or two of wine or a beer...but can't give up the damn cigarettes.

I've had by-pass surgery on the arteries in my groin and one carotid artery by-pass, which is now totally blocked again and can't be fixed. My doctors tell me that heredity has played a part in the arterial disease, but that smoking is the primary cause.

I'm 57 and have been smoking since I was 13. I've quit a few times, once for eight months, but always go back to it.

I totally understand drug addiction as I'm definitely addicted to cigarettes, yet the strange thing is, the times I quit, I quit cold turkey and didn't really have a difficult time with it.

I know I will make up my mind to quit again at some point, the main problem seems to be when that point in time will be.

Congrats to all of you who've been able to kick the habit and remain free of it.


 

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  posted on 6/15/2012 at 07:23 AM
someone told me once ''You don't give up cigarettes they give you up''. too true. tobacco is the worst drug and I have given up every one of them but still crave the 'baccy...

 

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  posted on 6/15/2012 at 07:47 AM
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I do smoke weed but after the last few days of having a severe summer cold I have decided to stop using until I get a vaporizer which is far better on the lungs. Right now with the massive coughing I have been doing I don't crave smoking anything. Between the sore throat and the hernia problem I still have I feel like my chest is gonna pop out of me like in the movie 'Aliens'!!!


i recommend the vaporizer, besides the preparation time. but i am a fan, you get nothing but the good stuff when you vaporize, put on a good record, dim the lights and and just evaporate .............plus you can use them in hotel rooms

 

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  posted on 6/15/2012 at 08:25 AM
I quit 30 years ago using acupuncture. Tried it on a whim and it worked for me the first time I tried. I've had a couple of friends pass on from lung cancer recently, hitting the age where it catches up.

 

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