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  posted on 5/31/2012 at 09:20 PM
As alot of y'all know I'm a huge Black Crowes fan and ... have enjoyed all there records with the exception of ... Lions. I have been pretty vocal in my displeasure with the record. I found it harsh and dissonant. I've tried several times to get into it to no avail until ... recently. I put Lions on while working in the garage and somehow it clicked. It could be that I've become familar of with some of the tunes as they have been in steady rotation in the Crowes live sets i.e. "Soul Singing" and "Midnight From The Inside Out". Or it could be that I'm seriously jonesing for a Crowes fix. It's probably a little (make that alot) of both. Lions reminds me of Zep's Presence - very riff oriented with some cool sound clips inserted. The lack of a great guitar solo probably put me off because I thought they should have let Audley rip. Still do but ... I'm digging this record. So ... when I'm wrong, I admit it. Let it be known.

 

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  posted on 5/31/2012 at 10:26 PM
lions is my favorite crowes album
 

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  posted on 5/31/2012 at 10:38 PM
My wife loves that album but it is my least favorite Crowes album. I like about half the tunes & the other half sounds like filler to me. I do really like the By Your Side album & most Crowes fans don't dig that one but Southern Harmony & Musical Companion is my all time favorite of theirs!
 

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  posted on 6/1/2012 at 12:18 AM
It still is my least favorite BC release.

 

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  posted on 6/1/2012 at 12:39 AM
I remember digging it last time I heard it but it has been awhile. Did listen to Warpaint and Before the Frost today and those are great albums

 

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  posted on 6/1/2012 at 06:20 AM
I'm a pretty big Lions guy. Some great tunes "young man,old man" is my favorite. By your side is easily the worst crowes album ever;
1. Amorica
2. Three snakes and one charm
3. Warpaint
4. southern harmony
5. until the freeze.....before the frost
6. lions
7. shake your money maker
8. by your side

People are going to bash me for having southern harmony so low, but amorica and three snakes are just stranger and more unique to me. This is simply my list based on how I dig these albums today. But I love each of the first 5 albums on this list. I like lions alot, money maker is ok but I dont think the band found their place yet, and by your side sucks.

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  posted on 6/1/2012 at 06:59 AM
I'm a huge Crowes fan too.....I like Lions, don't love it, but it's got some great moments. Ozone Mama is a personal fav.

 

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  posted on 6/1/2012 at 07:05 AM
I have always liked Lions. I know it's not a favorite of many though, and I have been known to like artists and bands material that might be considered not they're strongest by the fans. Lay It All On Me is a very good song, nice production and great arrangement, very nice lush melodies.

I know they're last few Frost,Freeze,Warpaint are very popular among BC fans and
refered to being some of the best of they're releases.
I do agree and think the material is very good and ranks high in the catalog, but they are usually not my first choice when reaching for the Crowes.

I miss the boogie/rock and riff stuff they do. The last few are light on that, which is fine.
Rich is one of my fav's guitar players. Comes up with some great riffs/melodies for his songs. His solo stuff is some of my favorite also.
Chris is a little to "hippy dippy" for me at times.

I like the Nashville Sessions. which is a bootleg. It was released officially as The Lost Crowes which I did not like the mixing and production of that compared to the Nashville stuff. Did not sound as strong and cleaned up al little too much for me. During the late 90's and early 2000's they released some singles which have some pretty cool b sides and material that does not appear on the studio albums which is VERY GOOD!!! If anyone is interested I could help you out.

 

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  posted on 6/1/2012 at 10:20 AM
amorica and 3 snakes are great! i think the reason for that was a combination of the song vibe and tonality, and what marc ford brought to the table. audley freed was such a dramatic change, that i lost the crowes for a while. but with the addition of dickinson, they are band to the band i love.

also, chuck leavell added some great piano and b3 to the first album.

 

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  posted on 6/1/2012 at 10:49 AM
It's my least favorite as well. I stopped buying their albums after that one--until the recent stuff which is excellent in my opinion.
 
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  posted on 6/1/2012 at 11:25 AM
I don't like it much myself but few tunes like Soul Singing and Midnight From the Inside Out worked well live IMO.
 

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  posted on 6/1/2012 at 11:38 AM
Not my favorite crowes but it si still good.

They played some dates with Lenny Kravitz in support of that record.
those were some great shows.

 

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  posted on 6/1/2012 at 12:16 PM
They did small tour that summer with Oasis that I saw. Would have been much better with Lenny K. The Oasis show was also at Radio City Music Hall which really wasn't the best venue for the Crowes. They came back later to NYC for their own beacon run which was awesome. It was right after 9/11. They easily could of canceled. It was a very uplifting to me and the people i saw those shows with. If I ever meet any of the Crowes, I plan to thank them for that run....

looking back on the Crowes, I like that they have several different line ups. Much like the ABB and the Dead, you can take a similiar set list from say 92 / 97 / 2001 and 2010 and have a very different listening experience with each and while some are stronger than others as a whole, even the weaker years have interesting stuff going on for the true fan.

 

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  posted on 6/1/2012 at 12:20 PM
I agree. There are a number of Crowes songs that really had to grow on me. With all of the bands I really love, it often does happen that repeated listenings teach me what to appreciate in the songs that I do not like at first.

I found "Lions" harsh, unmelodic, ungroovy - I did not like the attempt to modernize. However, now I find some very cool things going on there.

I did NOT like "By Your SIde" when it came out - it sounded so overproduced, so sort of latter-day-Aerosmithy to me, too heavy on the back-up singers. However, that one has really grown on me also.

 

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  posted on 6/1/2012 at 01:30 PM
I really miss the Crowes.....hopefully this hiatus doesn't go on for too too long. I need my fix.

 

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My wife loves that album but it is my least favorite Crowes album. I like about half the tunes & the other half sounds like filler to me. I do really like the By Your Side album & most Crowes fans don't dig that one but Southern Harmony & Musical Companion is my all time favorite of theirs!


I love "By Your Side." It got me back on their team after "3 Snakes.." and "Amorica" which I have never gotten into. I was hooked by the rock & Roll revival of "Shake Your Money Maker" and "Southern Harmony..." then they made two, IMO, boring records. They shmoked too much weed and forgot how to rock. I agree that "Lions" is a bit like Led Zep's "Presence" and I'd bet it has to do with their work with Jimmy Page. I've always thought "Lions" was a Zeppish album in many regards and kept it in rotation at the Sam Goody store I was managing at the time.

 

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I agree. There are a number of Crowes songs that really had to grow on me. With all of the bands I really love, it often does happen that repeated listenings teach me what to appreciate in the songs that I do not like at first.

I found "Lions" harsh, unmelodic, ungroovy - I did not like the attempt to modernize. However, now I find some very cool things going on there.

I did NOT like "By Your SIde" when it came out - it sounded so overproduced, so sort of latter-day-Aerosmithy to me, too heavy on the back-up singers. However, that one has really grown on me also.


the me BY YOUR SIDE sounded like their R&B album

 
 


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