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  posted on 5/30/2012 at 08:48 AM
29 May 2012

The Allman Brothers Band hasn’t put out an album of new tunes since 2003?s Hittin’ the Note, but the group apparently is finally considering returning to the studio in the coming months. The Southern rockers have a relatively busy 2012 schedule planned in celebration of the 40th anniversary of their classic album Eat a Peach, but founding Allmans drummer Butch Trucks tells ABC News Radio he believes that “by the time this year is over, there’ll be a lot of new material.”

For his part, however, Trucks isn’t very enthusiastic about The Allman Brothers recording a new album in the traditional sense.

“I know [frontman] Gregg [Allman] and [guitarist] Warren [Haynes] really want to go back to the studio [but] I never liked the studio in the first place,” he admits. Trucks also points out, “It costs us more to make a CD than we can recoup in the sales, so it’s really not cost effective.”

He adds, however, “If we’ve got a lot of new material and everybody wants to do [a new record], then, fine, I’ll do it.”

Meanwhile, Trucks has his own idea about how The Allmans might go about putting together a collection of new tunes.

“I kind of like the concept of, if we get a lot of new material this summer, next year we…record everything [during our annual residency at New York City's] Beacon [Theatre],” he suggests. “Then [we] take it into the studio and let Gregg redo all the vocals or whatever, and come out with kind of a hybrid live-studio album. It would be cost effective and a hell of a lot more fun.”

In the meantime, The Allman Brothers Band is gearing up for a series of U.S. summer shows that begins with a July 21 appearance at the All Good Festival in Thornville, Ohio. As previously reported, The Allmans also have a number of co-headlining gigs lined up with Santana during late July. Log on to AllmanBrothersBand.com to find out all the details about the group’s upcoming concerts.

Copyright 2012 ABC News Radio

http://www.classichitsandoldies.com/v2/2012/05/29/butch-trucks-says-new-all man-brothers-band-music-is-on-the-horizon/

 

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  posted on 5/30/2012 at 08:48 AM
I'll take a wait and see approach on this one

 

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  posted on 5/30/2012 at 09:32 AM
I take all that to mean that Butchie has no desire to go into a studio to record a new album. It just ain't gonna happen.
 

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  posted on 5/30/2012 at 09:38 AM
Well, the first job on Butch’s busy schedule should be working on the refunds for the Wanee shows that didn’t happen. What Butch did was intentionally screw fans and he seems in no hurry to apologize and pay them back.

The fact is Butch has no other projects and so he has to create some form of relevance. Hence a cd that has little chance of making him any money to repay those he screwed.

I would like to see him get Moogis back up with a proper management team. Keep a small percentage and bring in people who know what they are doing and stay out of their way. Many of the fans screwed would be happy to take free subscriptions to the Beacon shows and this would be one way of settling the debt. Butch can always claim credit for inventing it and that should be enough to keep him busy.

Personally I think the frustration over Moogis was what precipitated the misplaced strong reaction against HTN.

 

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  posted on 5/30/2012 at 10:01 AM

Butch Trucks says New Allman Brothers Band Studio Music is too much work.

"Music is a business", Trucks repeats. Drumming costs money. Each beat needs to be accounted for. If I beat my skins on the road, it doesnt make sense to do it all over again in a studio. Its just too much work moving my drums from the van to the studio, setting them up, and then having to break them down again. "All Dickey used to do was carry in his guitar case" Trucks fumed. I have cymbals, rides, and big bass drums."

 

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  posted on 5/30/2012 at 10:12 AM
At least he left the door open to it happening. What's more encouraging is the notion of new material being available. How they release it is secondary to me...
 

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  posted on 5/30/2012 at 10:28 AM
Clearly Butch doesn't enjoy the studio process, but the idea that the band doesn't specifically shine in the studio is crazy. Just in the "latter years" songs like No One To Run With, Old Before My Time, High Cost of Low Living, Firing Line, Back Where It All Begins never sounded as crisp and tight live as they did in the original studio versions. And the originals were not stiff, I assume because they recorded mostly live in the studio with overdubs later.

Old Before My Time is downright haunting in the original studio version, but never really worked live.

Where It All Begins and Hittin The Note both had a great energy to them while being "studio" (live in the studio + overdubs) creations.

The band also seems have a bit more of necessary editor when playing in the studio, too, which I believe is a good thing.

In the early years, the sound on Melissa, Blue Sky, Midnight Rider from the original studio versions was magical and never quite replicated on the stage (mostly due to the layering of extra tracks/parts in the studio).

I think the only times the studio really held them back were on parts of Win Lose or Draw and the entire Arista albums. Not sure where Butch gets the idea that the band doesn't capture a great sound as a studio band.

 

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  posted on 5/30/2012 at 10:45 AM
Dickey will contribute and play. Go ahead and laugh. Lots of people will buy. Lots. So of course it won't happen. Dickey can record his parts and send a fax when he's done mixing.
 

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  posted on 5/30/2012 at 10:55 AM
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Butch Trucks says New Allman Brothers Band Studio Music is too much work.

"Music is a business", Trucks repeats. Drumming costs money. Each beat needs to be accounted for. If I beat my skins on the road, it doesnt make sense to do it all over again in a studio. Its just too much work moving my drums from the van to the studio, setting them up, and then having to break them down again. "All Dickey used to do was carry in his guitar case" Trucks fumed. I have cymbals, rides, and big bass drums."


When is this quote from? Because is Butch trying to say that the Allman Brothers don't/can't/won't use a studio that already has a drum set in it? And if not, they don't have people to carry that crotchety old man's drums in for him?

And as usual, he still can't stop himself from saying Dickey's name. It's just hilarious how bitter he is.

 

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  posted on 5/30/2012 at 10:58 AM
Must be a slow day at ABC News Radio if this is news.

No worries as Gregg has said often over the last ten years that he and Warren have some songs in the works. Don't let the fact that he only had one song for his album fool you. The man is a songwiting machine.

 

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  posted on 5/30/2012 at 10:59 AM
Recording live and then going into the studio to clean up tracks has been an option for many years.

And I dont see that happening

 

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  posted on 5/30/2012 at 11:30 AM
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Butch Trucks says New Allman Brothers Band Studio Music is too much work.

"Music is a business", Trucks repeats. Drumming costs money. Each beat needs to be accounted for. If I beat my skins on the road, it doesnt make sense to do it all over again in a studio. Its just too much work moving my drums from the van to the studio, setting them up, and then having to break them down again. "All Dickey used to do was carry in his guitar case" Trucks fumed. I have cymbals, rides, and big bass drums."


When is this quote from? Because is Butch trying to say that the Allman Brothers don't/can't/won't use a studio that already has a drum set in it? And if not, they don't have people to carry that crotchety old man's drums in for him?

And as usual, he still can't stop himself from saying Dickey's name. It's just hilarious how bitter he is.

sorry, this was a fabricated humorous attempt at making light of all the negativity from Butch about making a studio record.

 

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  posted on 5/30/2012 at 11:33 AM
Is Butch an accountant or a musician? Is it about the music or the money? I understand that you need to strike a balance between the two but at this stage in the game, you'd think that it would be more about the musical legacy you leave behind. And granted, that's already been cemented, but still don't you want to create?

Also, doesn't he have somebody to set the drums up and break 'em down? Drum Tech?

 

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  posted on 5/30/2012 at 11:56 AM
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Must be a slow day at ABC News Radio if this is news.

No worries as Gregg has said often over the last ten years that he and Warren have some songs in the works. Don't let the fact that he only had one song for his album fool you. The man is a songwiting machine.


This cracked me up!

 

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  posted on 5/30/2012 at 01:04 PM
A new ABB studio album?

My baby done take that train and gone...

 

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  posted on 5/30/2012 at 01:48 PM
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Lots of people will buy. Lots.


I seriously doubt that, don't think it would matter who plays on it. The brothers are becoming a novelty act, playing their old songs to audiences with greying, balding, sunburned noggins. We are the model for the existing fan base, talking about what once was and wishing for what will never be...

This music was and is the soundtrack to my life, but the band is rapidly fading in my rear view mirror...

 

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  posted on 5/30/2012 at 03:02 PM
Boy sorry Gregg and warren have to twist butch's arm. I am sure paul riddle or any other drummer would be salivating to play on the last ABB album. Big V I have seen a lot of younger people at the Bros shows in the past years so their not all old men going to the shows,the bros are and always will be the principle architects of Jamming sultry blues along as gregg is still around they can still swing your a$$ and blow your minds on a great night. But yes Big V they have turned into a novelty act and need some new music to refresh us the fans and themselves especially Gregg,Butch and Jaimoe.

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  posted on 5/30/2012 at 03:43 PM
Did someone really fall for the fake Butch quote? Or was the response an inside joke that went over my head?

BIGV - Interesting perspective. The Brothers have pushed some of the younger crowd away with who they have paired themselves with in the last few years (Further for example) and with high theatre ticket pricing. The crowd was younger on average just a few years ago.

But I will say this: The Brothers have been counted out multiple times before. This is a band that includes Derek Trucks. I say never say never. Glad at least Butch is discussing the idea. Sorry creating new music in the studio seems like a chore to him. Most drummers would do anything to be able to create something new with the likes of Jaimoe, Derek, Oteil et al.

 

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  posted on 5/30/2012 at 04:21 PM
So how is the music business profitable? If they can't recoup the cost of a cd....they're in trouble.
 

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  posted on 5/30/2012 at 05:14 PM
Sounds like laziness to me. The actual recording process could be done for next to nothing considering Derek has a studio of his own. The only costs would be advertising but that doesn't seem to be the costs that he's concerned with.
 

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  posted on 5/30/2012 at 05:25 PM
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So how is the music business profitable?

It isn't much anymore! Most real bands, (non American Idol types) make their best money gigging, and selling merchandise.

 

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  posted on 5/30/2012 at 07:36 PM
I like Butch's idea though I wish they would get that kind of thing together sooner rather than later. Still, it would be great if between now and then, they made a concerted effort to assemble some new original tunes and maybe some choice covers (ie "Blind Willie McTell" not "Into The Mystic," and "In A Silent Way" not "The Weight") and went through them, and then played them at The Beacon, and THEN released a life/studio record that did NOT contain any of the already-classic ABB tunes (unless they have radically re-worked them).
They could repair vocals etc. at Derek's studio.
Or just record "live" at Levon's barn. Why not?

 

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  posted on 5/30/2012 at 07:39 PM
Of course, I'm still hoping Butch just does another post on his blog!
 

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  posted on 5/30/2012 at 08:08 PM
Rather than writing new songs and recording a new album, which is NEVER going to happen, how about the band work up some NEW CANNED ANSWERS to the question as to whether there will be a new album! Been hearing the same yarn for 10 years now!

[Edited on 5/31/2012 by axeman]

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  posted on 5/30/2012 at 08:55 PM
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Sounds like laziness to me. The actual recording process could be done for next to nothing considering Derek has a studio of his own. The only costs would be advertising but that doesn't seem to be the costs that he's concerned with.


Hate to say it but you have no idea how this business works. The costs are far higher than you imagine and much more is involved than you think. Your plan sounds great for your buddy releasing his own CDs that he burns but not how the real world works.

 

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