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  posted on 5/15/2012 at 07:40 AM
Hard to believe it's been that long!!! !!!!

Good stuff on here. Has some of my fav ABB outro jams on Back Where it All Begins and
No One To Run With.

I guess if you think about it we have only had one other studio release since then. And that was 9 yrs ago.....




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  posted on 5/15/2012 at 07:43 AM
oops!!
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  posted on 5/15/2012 at 07:48 AM
And hittin the note really does not compare...

WIAB is probably the last true ABB release we will ever hear

 

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  posted on 5/15/2012 at 08:22 AM
18 years ???? wow. I remember being so excited to buy it on the day it came out at Ralph's records in Scranton, PA......

I saw the 4/1/94 show at the beacon and was blown away by all the new stuff. The great new stuff !!! I knew this record would be a monster. Before 4/1/94 , the last show I saw was summer 93 when Dickey missed a bunch of shows. Those shows were memorable in their own way but I wondered where they were heading. They turned on dime. Dickey was really playing out of his mind that year. I listen to the tapes and think Gregg's voice sounds better this decade but overall 94 was an amazing year for the ABB. Warren and Woody... Just through the roof.

Gonna spin this one today. Man did that CD get played non stop that summer......

 

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  posted on 5/15/2012 at 10:32 AM
Great album. I remember exactly where I was the moment No One To Run With debuted on the radio. I pulled my care over to the side of the road and loved every second of it. I thought it has some classic songs that only enhance the ABB cannon (as does Hittin The Note, IMO).

After Dickey was arrested and missed the second half of the summer 1993, the future of the ABB was definitely in question. This album coming out by the following May was a big deal. I'm going to crank it up tonight.

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  posted on 5/15/2012 at 11:03 AM
It came out on my b day ,which was very cool. I think if I remember correctly they did a radio interview show that day for that album where they talked about it and played some tracks off the disc.

I do agree that I think that is the last " true" sounding ABB release we will eve hear unless DB, joins again.

 

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  posted on 5/15/2012 at 11:07 AM
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And hittin the note really does not compare...

WIAB is probably the last true ABB release we will ever hear

I concur.

 

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  posted on 5/15/2012 at 12:28 PM
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18 years ???? wow. I remember being so excited to buy it on the day it came out at Ralph's records in Scranton, PA......

I saw the 4/1/94 show at the beacon and was blown away by all the new stuff. The great new stuff !!! I knew this record would be a monster. Before 4/1/94 , the last show I saw was summer 93 when Dickey missed a bunch of shows. Those shows were memorable in their own way but I wondered where they were heading. They turned on dime. Dickey was really playing out of his mind that year. I listen to the tapes and think Gregg's voice sounds better this decade but overall 94 was an amazing year for the ABB. Warren and Woody... Just through the roof.

Gonna spin this one today. Man did that CD get played non stop that summer......


Ralph's Record City. That brings back memories. The tall guy that worked there turned me on to a ton of great blues. Last time i saw him he was working at Borders before it closed. Never got his name.

I love Back Where It All Begins and the title track to this day is one of my favorite ABB songs. I remember writing in Warren's solo as solo of the year to Guitar World. He captured my imagination with that one for sure. Gregg's voice is amazing on "Temptation Is A Gun." You hear the inner struggle he battled his whole life in that song.

 

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  posted on 5/15/2012 at 02:15 PM
Wow, time flies...And I am also of the mindset that BWIAB is the last true Allman Brothers Band studio album we will get. Some very classic music, the Summer of '94 tour was very inspiring to me. Loved both shows I saw, wish I could've seen more. And yeah, as jkf said, it got the h@ll played out of it that summer. "Lord, it sends chills up and down my spine"

 

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  posted on 5/15/2012 at 02:20 PM
For my ears, Warren's solo on Back Where It All Begins is as definitive as Chuck's on Jessica. Particularly Walnut Creek '94.

Apparently Warren also had Who To Believe and Rocking Horse at the ready for this album as well. Would love to hear the full Dickey/ Warren treatment on those.

 

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For my ears, Warren's solo on Back Where It All Begins is as definitive as Chuck's on Jessica. Particularly Walnut Creek '94.

Apparently Warren also had Who To Believe and Rocking Horse at the ready for this album as well. Would love to hear the full Dickey/ Warren treatment on those.


I'd like to know who sang on the ABB recording of Rockin' Horse if they did one. I'm wondering if it was Gregg since he's listed as a co-writer.

Non-Warren versions of Where It All Begins bother me because the guitar players don't use any of Warren's phrases from the solo and for me at least, they are key to the song.

 

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  posted on 5/15/2012 at 06:15 PM
To me, BWIAB is kind of like Springsteen's Darkness At The Edge Of Town. At the time the ABB were an unstoppable force as a live band, but the studio versions pale in comparison to the live stuff. Second Set basically made BWIAB irrelevant, at least to me, and I doubt I've listened to it all the way through since Second Set came out.

There is some great stuff on there, but also some songs like Everybody's Got A Mountain To Climb that I could do without. Just my opinion.

Definitely a great moment in time for the band, though, and I consider the song Back Where It All Begins to be the last truly great Dickey Betts song.

 
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  posted on 5/15/2012 at 06:28 PM
2nd Set is pretty much always in the CD player in my guitar room. Hands down it is my favorite CD to jam along with.

 

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  posted on 5/15/2012 at 08:01 PM
That is one great album. So much good playing, good writing.
 

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  posted on 5/15/2012 at 08:40 PM
I heard Fillmore East a few times when my dad was playing it in the car. I though Whipping Post was alright, but really wasn't into that kind of music yet.

Then one day, I heard "Nobody to Run With" on the radio. Thought that song was AWESOME. When it was over the DJ said it was the Allman Brothers Band. That weekend, I went to the mall and bought my first ABB album . . . "Where it All Begins."

Love that album.

 

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To me, BWIAB is kind of like Springsteen's Darkness At The Edge Of Town. At the time the ABB were an unstoppable force as a live band, but the studio versions pale in comparison to the live stuff. Second Set basically made BWIAB irrelevant, at least to me, and I doubt I've listened to it all the way through since Second Set came out.

There is some great stuff on there, but also some songs like Everybody's Got A Mountain To Climb that I could do without. Just my opinion.

Definitely a great moment in time for the band, though, and I consider the song Back Where It All Begins to be the last truly great Dickey Betts song.


Of bands that actually improvise live, I almost always prefer live versions to studio versions, but interestingly enough, I have always preferred the album versions of this song to the live versions I've heard. (One other song that immediately jumps to mind is "White Room". Never can quite capture the studio magic of that tune.)

 

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  posted on 5/15/2012 at 09:03 PM
Way before the era of the internet and instant dowloads, listening to the fm radio on the way to work, and the morning drive dj just raving about it and playing NOTRW. Still remember it like yesterday, even the time of day and spot on the highway and where I was heading. Weird.

 

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  posted on 5/16/2012 at 12:06 AM
Was always a fan growing up, but this release was what really hooked me. A new release that was as good and strong as this album was made me realize this band was just as much about the today and now as they were about the then and past.

I loved this album then and it along with Eat A Peach are the only studio releases from the band I play with any regularity. One of my favorites for sure. I still have it on cassette and still play that as well (have cassette player in one of the Jeeps).

 

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  posted on 5/16/2012 at 06:50 AM
Dickey song writing credits

Where It All Begins

"Back Where It All Begins"- Betts
"No One to Run With"- Betts, John Prestia
"Change My Way of Living" -Betts
"Mean Woman Blues" -Betts
"Everybody's Got a Mountain to Climb" -Betts


Shades of Two Worlds

"Bad Rain" -Betts, Haynes
"Nobody Knows" -Betts
"Desert Blues" -Betts, Haynes
"Midnight Man" -Betts, Haynes
"Kind of Bird" -Betts, Haynes


Seven Turns

"Good Clean Fun" (Gregg Allman, Dickey Betts, Johnny Neel)
"Let Me Ride" (Betts)
"Low Down Dirty Mean" (Betts, Neel)
"Shine It On" (Betts, Warren Haynes)
"Loaded Dice" (Betts, Haynes)
"Seven Turns" Betts
"True Gravity" (Betts, Haynes)


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  posted on 5/16/2012 at 07:55 PM
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Dickey song writing credits

Where It All Begins

"Back Where It All Begins"- Betts
"No One to Run With"- Betts, John Prestia
"Change My Way of Living" -Betts
"Mean Woman Blues" -Betts
"Everybody's Got a Mountain to Climb" -Betts


Shades of Two Worlds

"Bad Rain" -Betts, Haynes
"Nobody Knows" -Betts
"Desert Blues" -Betts, Haynes
"Midnight Man" -Betts, Haynes
"Kind of Bird" -Betts, Haynes


Seven Turns

"Good Clean Fun" (Gregg Allman, Dickey Betts, Johnny Neel)
"Let Me Ride" (Betts)
"Low Down Dirty Mean" (Betts, Neel)
"Shine It On" (Betts, Warren Haynes)
"Loaded Dice" (Betts, Haynes)
"Seven Turns" Betts
"True Gravity" (Betts, Haynes)


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That's a pretty good run right there!

 

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  posted on 5/16/2012 at 09:56 PM
Yes it is, and how many of these are played live?
None -- few anyway
I love the ABB -- even if they have disavowed their post-EAP studio catalog in favor of becoming a cover band...

 

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  posted on 5/16/2012 at 11:15 PM
Good lord was it really that long ago? I was working third shift, WBCN used to play the "long song of the night" at 4am. BWIAB was a staple. I've never heard a version that doesn't get me up and dancing (badly)

 

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  posted on 5/17/2012 at 04:15 AM
Boy they sure take their time on releasing new albums. Just wish they would bring out something new and original. If they aren't going to release a cd,how about selling downloads off this website. Many bands do that.
 

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  posted on 5/17/2012 at 08:17 AM
My favorite of the Sony years.

Bought it the day it came out. Loved it, loved it, loved it
Still do and I still pull it for a listen.

The '94 tour was one of the best for me.



 

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  posted on 5/17/2012 at 08:40 AM
I agree on the prior 2 posts. They should make those shows available for download. I am not sure why they do not though. It would be nice after the show has been up for awhile to just pick the songs you wanted.

The "94" tour was in they were hitting it big and during that time I think it's when there popularity kinda picked up during this era. The whole hippy dippy jam band scene was kinda rising up.
I saw them that summer on the HORDE tour with Sheryl Crowe, Blues Traveler and BHTM.

This is the setlist from that show. Dickey had guests Dave and David Lyle come out and perform. Very cool. I also remember Woody came out with this Dr Suess hat on,pretty funny!!


Deer Creek Noblesville,Ind 7-15-1994

1. Sailin' 'Cross The Devil's Sea
2. Statesboro Blues
3. Blue Sky
4. All Night Train
5. Change My Way of Living
6. The Same Thing
7. Soulshine
8. Seven Turns
Instrumental version of My Window Faces The South, a swing tune w/Dave & David Lyle
9. Midnight Rider
10. Temptation Is A Gun
11. Jessica
12. Back Where It All Begins
13. In Memory of Elizabeth Reed
14. One Way Out
15. Whipping Post

 

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