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  posted on 5/4/2012 at 06:55 AM
today is the 42nd anniversary of the kent state massacre. i was named for one of the students killed. sad day in history
 
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  posted on 5/4/2012 at 07:21 AM
I thought of that this morning, too.

 

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  posted on 5/4/2012 at 07:36 AM

 

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  posted on 5/4/2012 at 07:37 AM
Another city; another town
Another puppet; another clown
Another war to end all wars
In 2012 we thank our banker overlords

 

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  posted on 5/4/2012 at 08:42 AM

 

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  posted on 5/4/2012 at 11:02 AM
A sad day in our nations history have we really learned from it?

 

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  posted on 5/4/2012 at 12:36 PM
It was August of 1971 and I was on vacation with my family. I was 12 years old at the time. My uncle Steve lived in New Orleans and had come upon a bad streak, was strung out, and disappeared for a while. His sister, my Mom, decided to talk my Dad into making a swing down to New Orleans to try and find him and see how he was doing. At the time my uncle was a full-blown hippy who was making a living by being a pool shark when not working for the railroad and his personal phone was a phone booth on a street corner that many people in the neighborhood used. You would call down there and ask whoever answered the pay phone if Steve was around, they would go find him, and that is how it worked.

My parents were pretty straightlaced. Make that completely straight. One of the biggest fights I had with them happened when I was in 5th grade in 1969 when I wanted to buy a pair of brightly colored 'flaired' jeans. They thought that 'flaired' jeans would lead to bell-bottom jeans, and they were trying to stave off my hippy aspirations with no success. My Dad was also in the Army National Guard, high and tight. The music at the time was vibrant and diverse. You could hear everything from Jimi Hendrix to George Jones on AM radio at the time, with Percy Sledge and The Doors thrown in as well. FM radio was fast becoming a force on the scene, depending on what city you lived in. The times that we live in now are historic. But, there is none of the electricity and buzz that surrounded those late 60s and early 70s times, and the music that came out new makes these modern times pale in comparison.

On the way down to Louisiana in 1971 we stopped at a KOA campground, and I remember seeing "Magic Carpet Ride" by Steppenwolf on the juke box in the game room. That was unusual for a family campground jukebox, believe me, as Sinatra, the Lettermen, and maybe an old pre-hippy Beatles song would be the choices. We camped a lot and I remember banners across some campground entrances that stated plain as day, 'No Hippies Allowed." A lot of the other kids were not hip to "Magic Carpet Ride," and I must have played it 6 times with myself being the only one in the room. It was still a bit of an underground movement then, and you have to remember that The Doors, for example, never sold a million albums until long after Morrison died. And then, of course, it all fizzled out when the scene went corporate by 1975-76 and even the so-called "Underground FM' radio stations went to a play list (No more playing of the entire live version of "Whipping Post" or "Echoes" by Pink Floyd) and the advent of Disco turned clubs that offered live bands into dance floors fueled by DJs and record players.

Anyway, we got to New Orleans in our family camper and found our way through the city to meet up with my uncle. My uncle was smart enough not to have us drive into the part of the city he was living in, so we met at a campground on the outskirts of the city. He showed up and entered the camper, looking like the hippy that he was. Later in the night, after my parents and my uncle caught up on family matters, the politics of the day crept into the conversation. I will never forget this all long as I live. It finally dawned on my uncle that my Dad was living in Ohio and was in the National Guard, who were the ones that shot dead those four college kids up at Kent State the previous year. My uncle's demeanor changed instantly, as he questioned my Dad about what happened, and the conversation became immediately heated.

It got to the point that my uncle basically threatened my Dad over Kent State, and my Dad was frantically trying to make the point to him that he was in the West Virginia National Guard, and not the Ohio National Guard. And, that was true, as after we left West Virginia and moved down river to Ohio for a better life, he stayed a member of the WV Guard and would make the car trip back to do his one weekend a month commitment. My uncle said to my Dad that if he had anything to do with or was near the Kent State shootings in any way that he would have kicked his a$$ right then and there.

Needless to say, while we were supposed to stay in New Orleans for a couple of days, my Dad decided to leave the next morning. He wanted to keep his kids exposure to the radical hippy world to a minimum, as he could tell we were soaking up everything my uncle said, and to not get his establishment a$$ kicked either. So, we saw our uncle one last time the next morning as we left town, and my brother and I talked to him about music, Steppenwolf, and so on. He took us both aside and said, 'There is one band that you need to hear and that is the Allman Brothers Band." When we came back home, we eventually talked my Mom into letting us buy "Live at Fillmore East" and it blew our minds and the ABB journey began.

But the Kent State shootings were the real deal, four unarmed college kids gunned down by the State, basically. Some say the NG heard a shot on campus somewhere, some say that a troublemaker did set off a firecracker or the like which triggered everything else. Bottom line- gunned down. And Ohio Governor Rhodes was forever unapologetic about the murders. Crazy times.

 

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  posted on 5/4/2012 at 01:05 PM
American league Cy Young winner, former Cubs and present White Sox color analyst Steve Stone was very good friends with one of the victims,,Sandy Scheuer. I heard a radio interview with him about 4-5 years ago and he struggled to keep his composure and nearly broke down a couple times while describing his relationship with her and learning of her death (He was a year out of school and pitching in the minors at the time of the murders). Obviously the murder still had a profound impact and left a very deep scar in his soul.

 

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  posted on 5/4/2012 at 01:28 PM
Allison Krause
Jeffrey Miller
William Schroeder
Sandra Scheuer

never forget...

 

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  posted on 5/4/2012 at 01:50 PM

 

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  posted on 5/4/2012 at 02:00 PM
A horrifying day in American history.. I remember it well.. My deep deep condolences to the family and friends of the slain victims... So so sad...

 

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  posted on 5/4/2012 at 03:23 PM
I play this EVERY year on this day....

OHIO

Tin soldiers and Nixon coming,
We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drumming,
Four dead in Ohio.

Gotta get down to it
Soldiers are gunning us down
Should have been done long ago.
What if you knew her
And found her dead on the ground
How can you run when you know?

Gotta get down to it
Soldiers are gunning us down
Should have been done long ago.
What if you knew her
And found her dead on the ground
How can you run when you know?

Tin soldiers and Nixon coming,
We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drumming,
Four dead in Ohio.

 

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  posted on 5/4/2012 at 03:42 PM
a very dark blot in american history
 
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  posted on 5/4/2012 at 08:48 PM
A sad day indeed
 
 


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