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  posted on 5/3/2012 at 05:20 PM
Many WTF?! moments in here for me so far.

http://www.spin.com/articles/spins-100-greatest-guitarists-all-time?page=1

 

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  posted on 5/3/2012 at 09:06 PM
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Spoiler: They're not all actual guitar players

What, is Mike Lawler on the list?

 

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  posted on 5/3/2012 at 09:31 PM
What a **** ed up list!

 

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  posted on 5/4/2012 at 01:43 AM
Reading this list makes me want to check out some of the groups mentioned

 

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  posted on 5/4/2012 at 02:24 AM
OK just finished this and for what SPIN is this list doesnt surprise me at all. Also kind of refreshing not to see Hendrix at the top of the list.

 

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  posted on 5/4/2012 at 07:27 AM
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OK just finished this and for what SPIN is this list doesnt surprise me at all. Also kind of refreshing not to see Hendrix at the top of the list.


no it's not.

 

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  posted on 5/4/2012 at 07:48 AM
not that I agree, but it seems they were going for something a little different for this list

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To celebrate the new generation of shredders profiled in our May/June "Loud Issue," the SPIN staff decided to find some wheedle in a haystack, taking on the impossible task of ranking our favorite guitar players of all time. Traditionally, the "greatest guitarist" timeline begins with Robert Johnson magically conjuring the blues, nears perfection with Eric Clapton mutating it beatifically, and then ultimately reaches a boomer-baiting Rock and Roll Hall of Fame apotheosis with the free-spirited Jimi Hendrix shooting it into space like feedback-laden fireworks. For this list, we veer toward the alternative canon that kicks in with the Velvet Underground trying to erase that form entirely, making guitar solos gauche and using instruments as sadomasochistic tools for hammering out sheets of white heat.

As you will see, our list embraces outsiders, trailblazers, outliers, and Eugene Chadbourne playing a rake. We don't worship "guitar gods," but prefer our axe-wielders to be resourceful, egalitarian, flawed, and human. We're not drawn to Olympic feats of fleet-fingered athletics, unless they're used for unique and exploratory ends. We see the mewling histrionics of Jeff Beck as tyranny instead of catharsis. The name Derek Trucks is practically alien to us.


but i guess at least we know that spin is still around and a list like this being so "differnent" than the typical lists, is sure to bring views / comments.


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  posted on 5/4/2012 at 07:49 AM
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OK just finished this and for what SPIN is this list doesnt surprise me at all. Also kind of refreshing not to see Hendrix at the top of the list.


Why??

 

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  posted on 5/4/2012 at 10:40 AM
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OK just finished this and for what SPIN is this list doesnt surprise me at all. Also kind of refreshing not to see Hendrix at the top of the list.


Why??


It is challenging the notion that the best guitarists only came out of the 60s scene. Also I think Hendrix is aided by the myth of Hendrix but is it possible that others have taken what Hendrix did and expanded on it and became a better player then him? But then again look at who made the list so coming from Spin the list isnt all that surprising.

 

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  posted on 5/4/2012 at 11:36 AM
There have been a lot of great players since the 60's blooze scene so it's nice to see some of them get recognition.
 

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  posted on 5/4/2012 at 12:16 PM
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Spoiler: They're not all actual guitar players

What, is Mike Lawler on the list?


No but Jam Master Jay is on there and #100 "plays" a computer.

I was horrified by this list. Kurt Cobain at number 5? Greg Ginn from Black Flag? I listened to a lot of Black Flag in my 80's life and I never once thought he was good, let alone a "greatest of all time." I wasn't even sure he tuned his guitar before he played it. And Johnny Ramone? Really? I could see him on a list of influential guitarists, but best or greatest? He made the most of his skill set but he's still a pretty rudimentary player.

At least John McLaughlin and Kim Thayil made the list. It is a different perspective on things. Still, when I hear most of the players on their list I hear noise more than music. It's like being in an indie record store whilst they bombard you with the worst "underground" music they can find. There's a reason it's underground...

 

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  posted on 5/4/2012 at 03:23 PM
That list should be number one on the list of the worst of the top 100 guitar player lists.
SERIOUSLY !!!

 

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  posted on 5/4/2012 at 11:15 PM
People, Derek Trucks is No 5 on their list!!!!!!

 

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  posted on 5/4/2012 at 11:21 PM
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OK just finished this and for what SPIN is this list doesnt surprise me at all. Also kind of refreshing not to see Hendrix at the top of the list.


Just as refreshing to see John Fahey in the top 10...

 

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  posted on 5/7/2012 at 01:13 PM
I think it's kind of sad that some folks cannot acknowledge other guitar players outside the inner sanctum of 1960's era blues players. What is wrong with a list trying to give some credit to other innovators? Do people really think that no one has come along since then who can play a guitar? Or maybe do something different which is also good?

Maybe a closer look might yield a new band worth checking out. You never know...

Some of their picks are head-scratchers even to me, but the point (I'm sure) was to get people talking and to shine the spotlight in a different direction (for a change!!).



 

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  posted on 5/7/2012 at 07:35 PM
I can see leaving Hendrix off a list of 100 Greatest Guitarists (because he's too obvious and hey anyway there's a world outside of those 60s guitar gods) in the same way that Miles Davis should be left off any 100 Greatest Jazz Artists list - right?
 

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  posted on 5/7/2012 at 07:36 PM
As for including Dave Navarro but not Jimmy Page, come on now - Jane's Addiction is a great band that borrows from Led Zeppelin pretty darned obviously.
 

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  posted on 5/7/2012 at 08:23 PM
Well, there's a whole crop of great guitar players from the 30s-50s who never even make the more traditional lists. I suppose this is more a of a post-1960's and 1970's rock guitarist list with a few marginal earlier artists typically left off of these lists.

Does anyone really need another list with Hendrix and Page on it? Really? Most of SPIN magazine's readers probably weren't even alive when these guys were around. I was not and I like to see my generation represented in the way the previous generation likes to be recognized. Fair?

And the 1970's era lists typically leave off many great players who don't have the same name recognition as a Clapton or a Beck. So I feel mostly they are a popularity contest.



 

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  posted on 5/7/2012 at 08:34 PM
I was not around when Hendrix was playing either. However, to cite Billy Corgan as one of the top 100 greatest seems kinda silly. Does he do anything Hendrix did not do, really?

They cite Robert Fripp and Tony Iommi, and King Crimson and Black Sabbath started around the same time Zepp did.

It's a hipster list; I get it. I'd prefer to see the list called 100 Underrated Guitarists or something. But I do understand that SPIN is a hipster production. I have plenty of friends who toe the hipster line. They cannot let themselves like something that is considered popular or mainstream, even if they actually do like it.

And that is the point I was making. Kim Thayil and Dave Navarro are on the list - both borrow VERY VERY heavily from classic rock, but they re-packaged themselves as alternative. If George Thorogood had painted his fingernails black and gotten picked up by college radio as an ironic classicist, even if he played the exact same licks, he would be number one on this list.

 

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  posted on 5/7/2012 at 10:17 PM
Folks wouldn't dig much on my Top 100 list either....WHY ? Because it's mine

 

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  posted on 5/7/2012 at 10:22 PM
I hear ya. Would you leave Bonham, Bruford, and Baker off your top 100 drummers list because they're too obvious?
 

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  posted on 5/7/2012 at 10:41 PM
Shall I make up a list of all the artists Clapton, Beck, Page, Hendrix, Duane, Keith, Gilmour, etc borrowed from and then cite these "imitators" as not worthy of a spot on said list? I guess this is pointless to discuss really.

 

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  posted on 5/8/2012 at 10:17 AM
I was more appalled at the inclusion of a guy who "plays" turntables on a list of guitarists. That tells you what their mindset is. You just can't do an "Alltime" list and leave of the guys who shaped modern guitar. Sure some of these guys are really great guitar players, but are they best of alltime? not really, but these lists are subjective anyway. Spin certainly puts a different, er, um, "spin" on things...

It seems like they picked noisy guitarist and those who preceded them in noise for a lot of the list though.

 

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  posted on 5/8/2012 at 02:17 PM
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OK just finished this and for what SPIN is this list doesnt surprise me at all. Also kind of refreshing not to see Hendrix at the top of the list.


Just as refreshing to see John Fahey in the top 10...


I thought the same thing when i saw it. Was shocked to see his name. Love his stuff.

 

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