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  posted on 5/3/2012 at 02:55 PM
Ok, here it is. Not only is this a musical travesty but it is also an insult to loyal Allman Brothers fans. First, Carolingians deserve an Evening with the ABB, something that has not been seen in some time. Second, if an Evening with is not feasible than I can think of slew of other bands in the Jam circuit that would serve better as an opening act (Rich Robinson would be my first pick). Finally, the current Lynyrd Skynryd is a faux band and should not even be mentioned in the same breath as the Legendary Allman Brothers Band. Skynryd's nightly templates combined with cheesy multimedia exploitation of the real LS and Molley Hatchet like guitar theatrics is as nauseating as it is insulting. One can excuse me of being elitist, snobbish and even toffe-nosed and my response would be "yes, I am guilty as charged!" The Allman Brothers are an intrical part of my life and if I'm going to travel great lengths and spend my well earned money, than I expect the best, and bringing baggage like LS along for the ride not only impacts my concert experience in a most negative but it will also vitiate the Brothers performance as well by not having a musically viable opening act. An act that would serve to inspire and raise the performance bar and leverage the Brothers into a higher level of musicianship, which Carolinians and the ABB faithful deserve.

 

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  posted on 5/3/2012 at 03:03 PM
I agree with scotty on this, skyryrd is useless. I saw the Texas shows in 04 when skynryd opened up for ABB, and you are right it is an insult to ABB. We never even bothered going in early to check them out, we continued to get in the right mindset is the lot. Skynryd also brings a crowd full of hillbilly goobers, that do not get the ABB Vibe......
 

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  posted on 5/3/2012 at 03:08 PM
As I stated in a another thread, if I have to do Charlotte, I'll be going in late. As in just before the ABB starts to play.

 

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  posted on 5/3/2012 at 03:30 PM
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Ok, here it is. Not only is this a musical travesty but it is also an insult to loyal Allman Brothers fans. First, Carolingians deserve an Evening with the ABB, something that has not been seen in some time. Second, if an Evening with is not feasible than I can think of slew of other bands in the Jam circuit that would serve better as an opening act (Rich Robinson would be my first pick). Finally, the current Lynyrd Skynryd is a faux band and should not even be mentioned in the same breath as the Legendary Allman Brothers Band. Skynryd's nightly templates combined with cheesy multimedia exploitation of the real LS and Molley Hatchet like guitar theatrics is as nauseating as it is insulting. One can excuse me of being elitist, snobbish and even toffe-nosed and my response would be "yes, I am guilty as charged!" The Allman Brothers are an intrical part of my life and if I'm going to travel great lengths and spend my well earned money, than I expect the best, and bringing baggage like LS along for the ride not only impacts my concert experience in a most negative but it will also vitiate the Brothers performance as well by not having a musically viable opening act. An act that would serve to inspire and raise the performance bar and leverage the Brothers into a higher level of musicianship, which Carolinians and the ABB faithful deserve.


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  posted on 5/3/2012 at 03:31 PM
Well the way Gregg has been playing, I wouldn't be surprised to see Skynyrd blow the Allmans away. Skynyrd still puts on a powerful performance. I'd take an allmans/skynyrd show over the allman/santana show anyday. Also there will be more skynyrd fans than allman fans there anyways.
 

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  posted on 5/3/2012 at 03:33 PM
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Well the way Gregg has been playing, I wouldn't be surprised to see Skynyrd blow the Allmans away. Skynyrd still puts on a powerful performance. I'd take an allmans/skynyrd show over the allman/santana show anyday. Also there will be more skynyrd fans than allman fans there anyways.
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  posted on 5/3/2012 at 03:48 PM
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Skynyrd still puts on a powerful performance.


"Still"...Hahahaha. By using that word, you are inferring that The Lynyrd Skynyrd that did all of the work in the 70s (so that this group of gravy train riders can "still' receive a paycheck) is "still" providing us with great music. I am laughing out loud at that!....This current group of players masquerading as LS is nothing more than a cover band, counting on the crowds ignorance for their pay. Good music or not, that is up to you...but these clowns are not "Still" putting on a powerful show. The legends who once accomplished that, are long gone....

To this lifelong fan, this looks like nothing more than an attempt to get more fans into the show......Money, money, money

 

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  posted on 5/3/2012 at 03:57 PM
maybe they want to see a Red State/Blue State rumble in the parking lot.

 

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  posted on 5/3/2012 at 04:03 PM
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I'd take an allmans/skynyrd show over the allman/santana show anyday.


If Carlos and some of his people ever get a hold of you; you're history , dude.

 

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  posted on 5/3/2012 at 04:10 PM
Jeez..........bitch about them not playing the south, then bitch about who opens for them.
 

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  posted on 5/3/2012 at 04:25 PM
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Jeez..........bitch about them not playing the south, then bitch about who opens for them.


Thank you! I was thinkin' much the same thing. Also, I saw Skynyrd open for ABB in May 2005 in the Savannah Civic Center. The Allmans put on a fantastic show that night, and I watched Lynyrd Skynyrd beforehand and it didn't bother me a bit.

You know what you're gonna get with LS. If you don't like it, stay in the parking lot and have a good time. I agree w/ you purists that this LS is nowhere near the 70's LS and that this incarnation might not even qualify as an incarnation of Skynyrd. Still, I found it very easy to put all that aside and tapped my foot to some decent Skynyrd before witnessing the majesty of the Allman Brothers Band.

(I do think we got lucky with that show, though. They were co-billing on that tour, and IIRC they were alternating the headlining role. If I had to watch the Allmans open for Johnny Van Zant and friends, I might not have stayed for the whole thing.)

 

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  posted on 5/3/2012 at 05:16 PM
So long as Gregg does not do Freebird again, I'm fine w/ it.

I am actually somewhat curious about this LS version, the same way I was when the ABB opened for DMB. Not curious enough to see a stand-alone show, but it won't kill me to give it a listen while there.

Can you imagine the cheesy radio ads? Get the guy who does the supercross ads:
"One night only. A southern rock showdown! It. Will. Be. AWESOME!"

Still glad Moe. opens in Atlanta though. More glad that I get to see the ABB at all, twice.

 

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  posted on 5/3/2012 at 05:30 PM
Definitely conflicted. On one hand, the ABB may not have too many more shows. On the other hand, I attended a LS/ABB pairing in 2004. The ABB played a short, relatively listless greatest hits show. Not much incentive to drive several hours and buy tickets if not getting 2 1/2 hours of inspired ABB.
 
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  posted on 5/3/2012 at 05:32 PM
"I'd take an allmans/skynyrd show over the allman/santana show anyday."

I very much doubt we have anything in common when it comes to music, except the Allman Brothers I guess, since you are on this site.

I prefer Santana over 70s Skynyrd, much less the current version of the band. I have never owned a Skynrd album, and I probably have 20 Santana albums.

I realize there is some overlap between the two fanbases, and I genuinely hope that people who are fans of both bands have a great time at these shows. I'll probably stick with Atlanta.

 
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  posted on 5/3/2012 at 05:59 PM
Lighten up folks - go and have a good time. So what if Skynyrd isn't the LS of yesteryear, big deal. Rossington was an original, Rickey Medlocke goes way back, and Johnny Van Z. has been in the band as long as Warren's been in the Bros. I would prefer the ABB / Santana pairing, and just bought tickets for Darien Lakes, but LS being on the bill for that show wouldn't have deterred me. Call me the breeze baby. At least you won't have to listen to 90 minutes of noodling from Bloe.

 

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  posted on 5/3/2012 at 06:26 PM
All of the original Skynyrd band albums are quite good. I used to have them all and don't remember a bum track. I've seen the current lineup (well, mostly as I think three of them have since died and been replaced... which is slightly creepy when I think about it...) of Skynyrd twice and the first time I remember being ok, the second time three years later was truly insulting. They've really taken over the redneck white trash corner of the market. The original band was like a frickin' machine who could draw a very diverse crowd, and what they have become now...meh. It's not worth it.

BUT then you are lucky to be getting a show at all unlike some of us *clears throat*, so really you shouldn't be too upset. If it were me, I'd go and watch both and just be glad to be seeing some live music. It's the best.


 

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  posted on 5/3/2012 at 06:48 PM
Except for the year Otell's and Derek's bands opened for ABB in Charlotte I've not really cared who opens.
When LS opened in 2004 it was the largest crown I have seen at Verizon for a Brothers concert. Skynyrd brought a lot of fans that stayed for ABB. You can hear the crowd reaction throughout the concert CD. Not a bad set list. I'll sit through LS to hear another concert like this.

1. Don't Want You No More
2. It's Not My Cross To Bear
3. Trouble No More
4. Midnight Rider
5. Woman Across The River
6. Come and Go Blues
7. Wasted Words
8. Done Somebody Wrong
9. Worried Down With The Blues
10. Every Hungry Woman
11. Dreams
12. In Memory of Elizabeth Reed
13. Statesboro Blues
14. Revival
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  posted on 5/3/2012 at 08:13 PM
Big fan of the '70s Skynyrd here. IMO, One More from The Road is one of rock's all-time great live albums. Call Me The Breeze, T for Texas and Crossroads off that albumshowed that the real Skyyrd knew how to play the blues too.

The 1987 Tribute Tour that included Artimus, Gary, Ed, Leon and Billy was an electric show. Saw it back to back nights at the Omni. That band had every right to call themselves Skynyrd and even they add "Tribute" after the band name at the time. They've honestly mostly disapointed me since then. And now that's it's down to just 1 original member in Gary plus Ronnie's brother (but without much of voice left and it was never as good as Ronnie's), I cannot for a second take them seriously. Their new music is so much formula.

I bet the ABB w/Moe would have sold well across the Carolinas. ABB/Moe/Rich Robinson certainly would have. No great need to package them with Skynyrd, but yeah, maybe it adds a few more people than a jam-band, roots rock proposed package.

 

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  posted on 5/3/2012 at 08:28 PM
Seems to me like when the ABB plays a double bill, the biggest difference in the amount of time the Brothers play is they don't do the extended drum set.

Your mileage may vary.

 

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  posted on 5/3/2012 at 09:04 PM
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Seems to me like when the ABB plays a double bill, the biggest difference in the amount of time the Brothers play is they don't do the extended drum set.

Your mileage may vary.


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  posted on 5/4/2012 at 02:30 AM
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Definitely conflicted. On one hand, the ABB may not have too many more shows. On the other hand, I attended a LS/ABB pairing in 2004. The ABB played a short, relatively listless greatest hits show. Not much incentive to drive several hours and buy tickets if not getting 2 1/2 hours of inspired ABB.


I would enjoy seeing an Allmans/Rotting corpse of Skynyrd show for the most part, but that would be a concern. Would the ABB tailor their set for a Skynyrd crowd if a sizable % of the audience was there for Skynyrd? I would be uncomfortable if I thought that was the case.

 

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  posted on 5/4/2012 at 06:49 AM
"Sweet home, Alabama
play that dead band's song
turn those speakers up full blast
play it all night long"

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I think I caught 5 shows from the last ABB/Skinny Lenny tour. IMHO - a modern-day Skynnyrd has more in common with Toby Keith than the Allman Brother's Band.

The best argument $-wise is that they put butt's in seats. In interviews (circa the last time around for the two bands), Gregg stated that , "this is a fan's dream...". If that's the case, I gotta stop eating rich foods too near to bed time.

It's their (ABB) call, but I think the ABB fans for the most part have a pretty sophisticated musical pallette. I'll leave it at that.

One poster (Patrick?) mentioned that if Skynnyrd opens, by the time the ABB comes out it's like 7th inning at Yankee Stadium - move up in seating assignment because a lot of the LS fans vacate. This story reminds me of the Huntsville show (Jack subbing for Derek).

We had EXCELLENT seats - 3rd row, right in front of Gregg. When we came in, there were a couple sitting in our seats -Skynnyrd fans. Did we call the local pest control company? NO!!! We let them occupy our seats during the Skynnyrd set while we went outside ... to throw rocks! We came back in, they thanked us and we resumed our seats.

I'm building bridges, people.


edited: mispelled "band's". RB

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  posted on 5/4/2012 at 07:18 AM
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So what if Skynyrd isn't the LS of yesteryear, big deal.


That is the whole point, it is not Lynyrd Skynyrd at all. In any shape or form.....Not in vocals, lead guitar work, keyboards or percussion.

Be honest with the people who by tickets. market this for what it is, not what it once was.

 

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  posted on 5/4/2012 at 07:37 AM
Man who cares who plays with them as long as they are playing. All this, I want the perfect show is just ridiculous in this economic environment. LS and ABB will fill the halls in the south regardless of alligence that is the goal of the people putting up the money to put the show on.

If ya dont like LS, dont' go see em! Pretty simple in my view.

 

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  posted on 5/4/2012 at 08:47 AM
I think you need to consider the market. I saw the first two shows they played in 2004, Charlotte & Raleigh. Skynyrd played first both nights. Huge crowd to start. Skynyrd finished and the places pretty much cleared out.

 

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