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  posted on 4/27/2012 at 08:08 PM
So. I've been listening to him more this past week. I've had albums for years, but it never quite clicked for me. I still find his playing way too busy, but at the same time, i am digging it more than I used to.

However, his voice just isn't quite the trick. BUT, I hear potential there. Anyone else thing, a little concentration on his singing could go a long way for him.

I just think about the ridiculous leaps and bounds that Clapton has made with his singing . . .

 
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  posted on 4/27/2012 at 09:51 PM
I don't care for him, john mayer, or johnny lang. even kws. I just dont feel it, and ive heard it all before.

 

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  posted on 4/27/2012 at 09:55 PM
I like Joe's playing and singing. I admit his playing is a bit busy, but I don't mind that. His singing could use a little help. Not everyone is gifted in both areas. I'd be happy if I could do either one as well as he does.

 

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  posted on 4/27/2012 at 10:00 PM
He's got kind of a unique voice that works on some songs, but doesn't work on others. I can't put my finger on what it is about it, but sometimes it sounds ok and on other songs it just rubs me the wrong way.

It's funny with him, I've never liked any of his studio records, I don't know if they're over-produced or just something isn't there for me, but I really like him live. Haven't picked up the Beacon DVD yet, but DVRed what was on Palladia and listen to/watch the RAH show often.

 

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  posted on 4/27/2012 at 10:53 PM
I'm actually only just recently giving Bonamassa a listen... for his guitar skills, however, not really the singing.

I think Bonamassa has a strong voice. He belts it out, and I think he means business. But, again, it's not his singing I'm really interested in, so I kinda just wait till the guitar solos kick in. If his voice was as good as the guitar playing he'd be one of the greatest things since sliced bread.

Couple of tunes here from Bonamassa I think are quite good.
The bass player is a monster, by the way.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvrNG8nmdrI
Takin the Hit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUyA1_NGNI4
Blues Deluxe


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  posted on 4/27/2012 at 11:16 PM
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I admit his playing is a bit busy.


Agreed. I sometimes think his playing sounds a bit scripted. Technically?...he is amazing. But, imho, Kind of soul less...


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Not everyone is gifted in both areas.


True on dat, it is the ones who are that grab and hold our individual interest. Joe is not in that group.

 

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  posted on 4/27/2012 at 11:53 PM
I'm glad I'm not the only one that he just doesn't click with. There are bits and pieces that sound fantastic but as a whole there's just something lacking for me. .....maybe it's the sunglasses' ...

 

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  posted on 4/28/2012 at 02:21 AM
I like his playing, singing and songwriting. Also respect his huge output on CD and DVD.
But for me he never comes anywhere near the pure excitement i get from listening to the guitar work of Haynes, Trucks and Gallagher (and a whole bunch of others) or the lead vocals of Gregg Allman, Warren Haynes, Paul Rodgers (and again a whole bunch of others). I'm not sure what the reason is why it doesn't work for me completely but i always have the impression he is more focused on his sunglasses, jacket and hair and never goes into a sweaty frenzy like good old Rory Gallagher.

 

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  posted on 4/28/2012 at 08:40 AM
I was a fan of Joe's many years ago and bought lots of his cd's that I really enjoyed. Then I saw him live at a blues festival and was so turned off by his arrogance on stage that I haven't listened to him since.

 

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  posted on 4/28/2012 at 09:00 AM
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I was a fan of Joe's many years ago and bought lots of his cd's that I really enjoyed. Then I saw him live at a blues festival and was so turned off by his arrogance on stage that I haven't listened to him since.


I have never been to a live performance, but I have seen a lot of concert video (haven't stayed at a Holiday Inn Express though). What I first thought was arrogance, I believe is more "playfullness'. He plays along with the audience, giving them the "guitar god' they expect to see. I think he's just having fun. From what I have seen, what I have heard, and what he himself has posted in the forum on his website, he seems to be a very humble guy who will give credit where credit is due. In the past few years he has played a number of famous guitars, the Kossof and Moore Les Pauls, Gallagher's Strat and even the Gold Top that was touring with Derek Trucks. He seemed truly apperciative of the opportunity.

 

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  posted on 4/28/2012 at 12:14 PM
I think he has matured into an excellent singer. http://youtu.be/sjch3LAAGoQ Ballpeen Hammer (Acoustic)


IMHO, Joe is better than anyone else playing right now. Derek is great at slide, but he just doesn't have the range of styles that Joe does. Both are the top players however. The 2 best young guitar players out there right now.


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  posted on 4/28/2012 at 01:28 PM
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IMHO, Joe is better than anyone else playing right now. Derek is great at slide, but he just doesn't have the range of styles that Joe does. Both are the top players however. The 2 best young guitar players out there right now.




I don't care if he is a better player, I don't care if he is able to play every single style of music that there is, I'll start listening to him the day his playing moves me the way Derek's does. (or at least the day he gets closer to being able to move me.)

 

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  posted on 4/28/2012 at 02:08 PM
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IMHO, Joe is better than anyone else playing right now. Derek is great at slide, but he just doesn't have the range of styles that Joe does. Both are the top players however. The 2 best young guitar players out there right now.


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  posted on 4/28/2012 at 02:47 PM
Not enough soul in is playing and singing for me. He is a very good technician though.
 

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  posted on 4/28/2012 at 02:49 PM
To my ears Joe doesn't have any depth or substance to his playing. He is the Joe Satriani of the blues.
Both are very technically proficient, but lack that certain something that makes me want to come back, except occasionaly, to see if I get it yet. I don't.
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  posted on 4/28/2012 at 04:38 PM
Davey is great too. What's he been up to?
 

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  posted on 4/28/2012 at 09:37 PM
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So. I've been listening to him more this past week. I've had albums for years, but it never quite clicked for me. I still find his playing way too busy, but at the same time, i am digging it more than I used to.

However, his voice just isn't quite the trick. BUT, I hear potential there. Anyone else thing, a little concentration on his singing could go a long way for him.

I just think about the ridiculous leaps and bounds that Clapton has made with his singing . . .
Personally, I think he is the worst of the best guitarists out there. The guy seems to have to try too hard for me. He also seems to think that he is God's guitar playing gift to the world. Talented, but not my style.

 

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  posted on 4/28/2012 at 11:15 PM
I don't know. Joe is amassing quite a following. I have never seen him live but he is playing at the Murat this Saturday night and we are going to try to get some decent seats that are kicked back in by ticketbastard. if we don't score anything good, then it is off to the balcony for us on this one. The show seems to have sold quite well and it could very well sell out by Saturday.

I find the critiquing of Joes playing from fans on this site to be very interesting. It makes me wonder if people really realize how spoiled (lucky) we are as fans to have two of the greatest guitarist in the world playing for the ABB in Derek Trucks and Warren Haynes? Two world class musicians in every sense of the word. I would say that if Joe is the worst of the best, well, that is still pretty damn good. Too bad he can't live up to the lofty standards set by Mr. Haynes and Mr. Trucks, but then again, who can?

For a second tier guitarist, he sure is getting strong dollars for his tickets? The cheapest ticket in the house is $65 and the next level is $85. I would say it will be intersting to see who sells more tickets, the TTB or Joe Bonamassa at the Murat. The TTB play here in about a month. I can already tell you that Joe has outsold The Warren Haynes band who played to what I would call an average crowd at The Murat last year. Of course, ticket sales are not a measure of ones talents.

Hopefully we will get some good seats and maybe I will get a pic or two. I will try to get one of him with his sunglasses off . I will try to post a review in a somewhat timely fashion. Interestingly, all I have on Joe is the Beacon and RAH dvd's.

 

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  posted on 5/5/2012 at 02:24 PM
He's an international success.

He can be a little reserved on stage but I think it's more about anxiety than about being stuck up. I've been seeing him for a few years now and I think he gets more and more relaxed onstage as the years go by. He grew up in Utica NY so he doesn't have that rough and tumble affect the ABB fan base is more used to. He isn't stuck up. He's just a young man who never did anything else but play the guitar. He is smart and he is rather articulate and he talks to the audience. He doesn't just stand there. He wants people to listen to him so he doesn't let the audience get up and dance. I'm not thrilled about that, but I can see that it makes for a show focused on his performance. Instead of audiences drugging and drinking and yapping and bull sh*t like so many other bands have going on during a show. It is all what you're comfortable with and I try to be comfortable in all situations but none are perfect you know.

I like his growth as a performer. He used to sing in a much more "formally taught" way but now he sings from the heart so much more. It's like he has grown into his voice and he was always a great player. He is much more relaxed on stage than he was when I first saw him so if you haven't seen him in a while, and you want to hear some great playing (the best I've ever heard) give him a shot again.

Yes his tickets are expensive but he plays new material and he has a great band and he plays in wonderful venues. So I put up with the sitting even though I am not fond of that aspect of the show. All the rest, is gravy. I've never heard a guitar played more beautifully than by Joe Bonamassa. And I've heard many great players play.

 

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  posted on 5/5/2012 at 02:28 PM
He's going to be in the NY area in a few weeks. http://jbonamassa.com/tour-dates/ He only plays here once or twice a year. He tours the world extensively. He played three or four dates in the Soviet Union a few months ago. I was impressed by that.
 

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  posted on 5/5/2012 at 10:53 PM
I really like Joe Bonamassa. He comes to south Florida every December. We saw him the past two
years and I just bought tickets for next December. We have one of his CD's we play often.

Joe's voice is powerful and I think is guitar playing is pretty good. He is a showman and is sometimes playful with the audience. In appearance only, he reminds me of Roy Orbison. I love his dark clothes and
sun shades. He is a rock star!

Joe's December show, more than half tickets sold already. I think Joe plays with soul. Derek plays perfectly but with no soul. Also, Luther Dickinson is a soulful player, more than Derek. IMO, of course. I don't claim to be an expert, I just know what I like.

 

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  posted on 5/6/2012 at 08:32 AM
I like Joe, got his CD's and Ive been lucky enough to get to photograph his shows. (this is from his last London show where he played Rory's Strat)
He's a blues/rock guitar player in the "UK British Blues Boom" of the early 70's.. He's not a plaid shirt cowboy boot wearing Southern Rocker. He's an absolute showman and a brilliant guitar player.
He's not my favourite player.. that's Derek Trucks.
I also quite like the fact he pisses off the so called Blues Purists.


 

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  posted on 5/6/2012 at 11:07 AM
Like Joe B. or not, you have to dig his work ethic. Personally I like him. I've heard a couple of folks say that they preceive him as arrogant. However, by and large, the majority of folks find Joe very fan friendly and caring. He is also diverse. Witness the success of Black Country Commuion which I dig as well. Also folks tend to forget that Joe B. like Warren or Derek started out as a hot shot guitarist and he hasn't forgot that. Ironically that is my beef with the TTB. I personally go to see Derek and he just does a fill here and there in what I'd call otherwise mediocre pseudo funk/soul/ blues tunes.

 

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  posted on 5/6/2012 at 02:45 PM
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Derek plays perfectly but with no soul.


I have never heard anyone say that Derek's playing has no soul. Wow. Different strokes, I guess.


I just watched the RnR Hall of Fame induction of Freddie King. Billy Gibbons, Bonamassa, and Derek doing Goin Down. IMO Derek, and even Billy Gibbons, "out-soul" JB by leaps and bounds. I give you that Bonamassa is a technical monster. Dude has obviously put in the time on honing his technical abilities....and no doubt, lots of time in front of the mirror practicing his moves

 

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  posted on 5/6/2012 at 02:48 PM
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I personally go to see Derek and he just does a fill here and there in what I'd call otherwise mediocre pseudo funk/soul/ blues tunes.


Have you given them a listen lately?? I was not a TTB fan when I caught them at the band's birth, but Jeezus, they've come a long way. Derek has been taking charge in the live shows. They are definitely opening things up quite a bit as of late.

 
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