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  posted on 4/23/2012 at 07:14 AM
I'm surprised to see that no one's mentioned it yet, but what are the thoughts on Gregg from those who were there? I was up front and center both nights, and Gregg's appearance rattled the hell out of me when he finally was helped on stage Friday night an hour late. I saw him in Savannah in January, and that was not the same person who walked out Friday night. His voice sounded good, albeit more slowly paced and a breathless at times, but he was visibly trembling and was pale as a sheet and completely disoriented.

Every time he reached for a glass of water, I thought he was going to fall out of his seat, and clearly, they kept him offstage most of the time. When they started Blue Sky, he tried to get up to walk off stage and fell back into his seat. His arms were shaking terribly under the strain of just trying to get up.

Now, I'm not interested in "bashing" Gregg. I freaking love that man. It bothered me to see him in that shape in the same way it bothers me to see my father struggling with health issues. I've never felt such a bizarre range of emotions in my life while watching a show, and I'm still upset about it this morning.

But facts are facts. He's either very, very, very sick, or he's using some sort of prescription pain medication for his back that is affecting his ability not only to sing but even to move around. My impression was that the rest of the band was just as suprised as I was to see how bad off he was and that was the reason for the hour late start on Friday. The month rest from the Beacon hasn't done him any good. His health is much worse than he was then.

I find it hard to believe that this concert would have even happened had the other band members known how sick Gregg was.

So, the question is, do they continue to play dates going forward with Gregg in such a compromised position? Are they going to have Junior Mack, Jimmy Hall, and Susan on tour with them all summer to "fill in" for Gregg on most songs? I don't feel that it's fair to the band or to Gregg to do so. And I hope people don't bash me for asking these questions. The band has not addressed this issue. I choose not to ignore it and pretend that everything is fine. I'd like some honest opinions from those who were there.

 
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  posted on 4/23/2012 at 07:21 AM
Thx for the review, looking at Gregg at the Beacon i was totally in the same boat as u were at Wanee although he sounds worse now then in NYC. I could not help biut watch him through the show thogh, struggling at times, disoriented a bit, missing que's etc. I felt bad for him and it did effect me enjoying the show. the rest of teh band was great but that bothered me.

whatever you have to do Gregg, we will understand, get healthy.

 

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  posted on 4/23/2012 at 07:23 AM

 

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  posted on 4/23/2012 at 07:41 AM
Just enjoy his gift while he's able to share.

 

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  posted on 4/23/2012 at 07:57 AM
Sounds like a great time for a book tour.....

I hope he comes to his senses and cancels those dates. They are harder than people think. Take it easy,dude. As much as I like most of the recordings from the beacon this year, it's obvious he is struggling. There was a recent post of a great vid from the 2009 run and it's like night and day vocally and how he looks. The guy needs a break. It's either he's stubborn and doesn't want to let down the fans or it's like Garcia 94/95 and the organization just has taken on a life of it's own and needs to constantly feed the cash monster. I really don't see the ABB having the over head the Dead did. Especially with most of them doing fine on their own. I'm just an arm chair QB but I've been following this guy since I was a kid and there's been lots of ups and downs but the change from less than a year ago to now is alarming....



 

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  posted on 4/23/2012 at 08:17 AM
I'm also wondering how the book signing tour is going to go...funny you would mention garcia, a friend of mine was familiar with how that went & sees similarities in this situation, unfortunately. doesn't do anybody any good.
 
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  posted on 4/23/2012 at 08:39 AM
Gregg is a warrior.......people at Wanee told me he had his hernia surgery 9 days before Wanee - there is probably no way he should have been there - trying to sing after a hernia operation....

I hope he takes some time off and gets his strength back..........

 

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  posted on 4/23/2012 at 08:50 AM
Like I told people when I had my hernia repaired. It's minor surgery except when they're cutting on me. I don't know details about Greggs surgery. I can tell you I was still hurting for a couple of weeks at least, and more than one person was surprised at how "bad" I was looking. Gregg will be fine in a few weeks. He will do it his way because the music helps heal him.
 

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  posted on 4/23/2012 at 09:18 AM
Sadly, this is all about money. Too bad. I would hope Greggs health would be more important than a few dollars .

 

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  posted on 4/23/2012 at 09:22 AM
Listening this morning to 4.21 show. Gregg sounds pretty good. Better than night before. No doubt he could use some time off but the combo of his love of playing/opportunities w/new album and book keep him out there. If hernia issue not in picture would probably be more concerned. That said, hopefully after book tour he is off until Allmans July dates though sure GAF will slip some dates in that window. God bless him and the band.

 

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  posted on 4/23/2012 at 09:32 AM
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Sadly, this is all about money.


that is why it is called the "Music Business"

 

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  posted on 4/23/2012 at 09:59 AM
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Listening this morning to 4.21 show. Gregg sounds pretty good. Better than night before. No doubt he could use some time off but the combo of his love of playing/opportunities w/new album and book keep him out there. If hernia issue not in picture would probably be more concerned. That said, hopefully after book tour he is off until Allmans July dates though sure GAF will slip some dates in that window. God bless him and the band.


I wouldn't be so sure about the GAF dates, man. Hearing it on the radio isn't the same as seeing it, and even people 50 yards back didn't see what I saw. Gregg would have to be out of his mind to schedule solo dates right now. And he does indeed to appear to be out of his head. He needs freaking rest/treatment badly. The notion that he could stand up front and center with a guitar in hand and lead his solo band is completely ludicrous unless he makes a 180 degree change immediately. I don't see how he could sign autographs for more than a few minutes.

Maybe the hernia problems will heal quickly, but the man can barely stand or sit right now. I'm not trying to be dramatic, but I'm telling you that he's in bad shape.

 
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  posted on 4/23/2012 at 10:01 AM
It is very disturbing to read this... I hope it is all related to his recent hernia surgery and that his recovery will swift and speedy.. He has had a rough few years...

 

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  posted on 4/23/2012 at 10:20 AM
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And he does indeed to appear to be out of his head. He needs freaking rest/treatment badly.


Was not there, so obviously not have same sense as you who witnessed. What are you suggesting by treatment?

 

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  posted on 4/23/2012 at 10:21 AM
I went to the Beacon this year because I am pretty sure Gregg is not going to be able to handle much more. Don't know if it's his managers or if he just wants to continue playing, but he's in such poor health, somebody needs to hold him down and make him rest.
I don't care if I never see him perform again. After all he's given us over the years, he deserves to sit back and relax.
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  posted on 4/23/2012 at 10:31 AM
I was up close for both nights in Wanee also. I saw the same thing. I honestly thought I would get on my computer this morning to news that I just saw the last Allman Brothers show. That is how shocked I was about Greg's condition. We spent the drive home yesterday wondering if the Allman Brothers would play Wanee next year. I came to the same two speculative conclusions: either meds that caused him to be disoriented or he was very sick. I didn't realize he just had surgery. That could explain it.

A few observations:

- They messed up more on Friday night than any other time I have seen them. (I admit you notice more things when you are close to the action like I was.)

- After watching Greg on Friday and for a few songs on Saturday, I was very worried when he came out to sing Needle and the Damage Done. I thought I was about to witness a disaster. I was wrong. Greg delivered a very emotional performance on that song. Unbelievable!

- They looked more prepared for Greg's condition on Saturday night. I thought they looked surprised on Friday when Greg would mess something up, but they looked ready for it on Saturday.


I love the Allman Brothers and had a great time at Wanee. I would rather see a few songs with a sick Greg than no Allman Brothers at all. I hope Greg gets to feeling better.

 

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  posted on 4/23/2012 at 10:50 AM
Was at Wanee

1st night ABB reminded me of rudderless ship. Ship still good but no plan B when captain is having problems. They threw everybody onstage. It alarmed me. I wanted to leave early...something I'd NEVER felt before. Many around me DID leave.

2nd night there was definitely more of a plan. Threw more folks onstage but to me it wasn't the ABB. As someone said earlier it was the Allstar Allman Band. I left because I was upset at all the implications for the future. Saw many others leaving too. Band and all performers were still fabulous but I was feeling very emotional....

Gregg himself has said that when he is home and supposed to be healing, he feels worthless and that he should be doing something. That is why he was performing a mere 6 mos after liver replacement, I imagine the it is the same mindset here.

Gregg has shown he's made of very strong stuff. But everyBODY need to take time to heal. I hope he does this. He must be driving his doctors and family crazy. Rigorous book tour not good idea at this time.

Prayers all round for this situation....

 

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  posted on 4/23/2012 at 11:11 AM
A toughie all around, that's for sure -- I can't believe anybody would want Gregg to be signing books if his health/appearance would leave people upset & bummed out -- on the other hand signing books is less taxing than playing music so...

IMO Gregg's gotta tell himself that, no, not financial necessity or even music itself, is worth one's health -- playing isn't helping, my brother -- rest & rejuvenation are the only options -- you can do without the book tour bro -- love ya, & when you get to feeling better, we want ya back at the Flynn in Vt!

 

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  posted on 4/23/2012 at 11:12 AM
I'm sorry the performances didn't go as everyone hoped. I sure sounds like Gregg needs to give himself some time to rest due to his recent medical issues.

If he still wants to perform and get out and about when he's up to it, great! If he decides he's had his share and he's done with performing, great! All the power to him either way!

 

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  posted on 4/23/2012 at 11:25 AM
I'm going to try to pick my words wisely. And this is just one guy's opinion.

I love Gregg. And I love Dickey. Both have brought great joy to my journey through planet earth, in a number of ways. I very much want it to be well with them, want them to be happy.

I also have a great love for the Allman Brothers Band. Duane Allman's band. And I believe both Gregg and Dickey should be held to the same standard musically. As I remember it, the original fax to Dickey had to do with something temporary, till he could be back musically to the standards of The Allman Brothers Band. Before things deteriorated into lawyers and legal actions.

I think the same standard should be applied to Gregg. Hopefully, some R&R will fix him right up. I sure hope so. But no more Allman Brothers Band shows till he's able to perform at that level.

I think the book signings might be just the right thing for him--assuming he doesn't over-do it. He probably doesn't need too much time to sit around the house and ponder.
Then, when he's feeling better, some GAF shows. And, hopefully, when he's strong again, more with the full band.

I don't want to see the Allman Brothers Band lower its standards, become some kind of retro fair circuit act. I don't want them to be remembered like this by younger folks.
Ali should be remembered like he was against Foreman and Frasier. Some only saw him fight Larry Holmes, never got the concept of who Ali was.

I love the band, love its members. The health of each is paramount, and much more important than the band. The time has come, after receiving the Lifetime Achievement Award, to step back and think about the last 43 years, the present, and the future.
Money should be the last consideration at this point, imho.

 
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  posted on 4/23/2012 at 11:28 AM
He just had surgery. I'm sure anything described above is related.

 

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  posted on 4/23/2012 at 11:57 AM
I listened to the performance via Sirius Deep Tracks, and while Gregg sounded weak on "Needle and the Damage Done," I thought he sounded pretty good on the ABB tunes he sang. As far as the band is concerned, I thought they sounded like they were kicking some @ss. I particularly liked the versions of "Rocking Horse" and "Southbound."
 

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  posted on 4/23/2012 at 12:02 PM
I too heard that he just had surgery and I suspect he feels bad about missing Wanee a few years ago and decided to play as much as he could manage. I was listening on Sirius XM too he could be heard laughing between songs and seemed to be in good spirits. Aside from travel, book signing shouldn't be too bad for him, but the dude needs rest from singing. He pulls it from deep inside and his body just can't handle it right now. He's a trooper but he needs to take care of himself first.

 

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  posted on 4/23/2012 at 12:29 PM
Saturday night, listening on Sirius, it was obvious Gregg was struggling; he flubbed his vocal cue on the first song he sang, Come and Go Blues, and in general sounded weak.

I was saying that night to a friend that I really believe this is what would be the best thing for Gregg right now: Take at least a month off and check into a holistic medicine facility or spa. The kind of place where he would get natural treatment every day for most of the day: Massages, steam baths, chiropractic care, possibly acupuncture, herbal teas and natural food. I'm sure Gregg can afford it. I think this would do great things for him from three angles: 1. His back problems. 2. Liver cleansing. 3. A relief from the pressure of the music biz. PLEASE Gregg, for your own good, DO IT. We want to listen to you for many more years. LOVE YA MAN!! -Rob

 

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  posted on 4/23/2012 at 02:27 PM
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I don't want to see the Allman Brothers Band lower its standards, become some kind of retro fair circuit act. I don't want them to be remembered like this by younger folks.


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