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  posted on 4/4/2012 at 07:15 PM
....they just showed him being driven in a golf cart at the Miami - St. Louis opener on ESPN and I didn't even recognize him. He is very thin and hunched over - he stayed in the cart and I'm not even sure he can stand. And the Parkinson's tremors are very difficult to watch. He was shaking so violently that he almost couldn't even HOLD the ball they gave him. I was shocked at his appearance. I knew he was ill but I had seen photos where he looked almost fit after doing stretching exercises with a trainer. He doesn't look anything like that man.

I have a lot of admiration for him to have the courage to be seen in public but that was one of the saddest things I've ever seen. He truly is a mere shell of his former self. I'd have to say after seeing his appearance tonight that unfortunately I don't think he will be around much longer.

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  posted on 4/4/2012 at 07:33 PM
Good post -- Muhammad looked not very well in photos from Joe Frazier's funeral -- he's given the world so much -- his concern & activism for equality first of all -- secondly, 1964-67 -- his prime -- he was beautiful to watch in this period -- for speed, grace, confidence, athleticism etc etc -- no one was like him. He was as dominant in boxing then, as Sandy Koufax was in baseball from 1962-66
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  posted on 4/4/2012 at 07:41 PM
Agreed, I was shocked the way he looked. I didn't think he was doing that bad but now that I think of it, it's been awhile since I've seen pics of him.

Man, he was fun to watch in his prime. And those Ali-Frazier fights, legendary.

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  posted on 4/4/2012 at 07:47 PM
One of my childhood heroes, much to my parents' dismay.

Took a sh!t-ton of courage to do what he did refusing the draft.

It saddens me to see the shape he's in now.

 

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  posted on 4/4/2012 at 08:57 PM
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One of my childhood heroes, much to my parents' dismay.

Took a sh!t-ton of courage to do what he did refusing the draft.

It saddens me to see the shape he's in now.



"I ain't got nothin' against those Vietcong!"

Lost the best years of his career for standing up for what he believed in. Nowadays you NEVER see a celebrity turn down a dollar to stand on principle.

You're right, Ron, he took a TON of sh!t for his stance. Remember this wasn't long after '68 and the rise of the Black Panthers and Black Power. White America was scared sh!tless of Ali and Black Muslims in general. He was a very hated man among a majority of the country and obviously most servicemen, which is completely understandable. All the more reason to respect him for putting it all on the line.

When I was a kid I didn't like him at all, thought he was a loudmouthed (which he was, the best ever) a$$hole, and I was probably, at a deeper level, afraid of him because I didn't understand him at all. As I got older, though, I really began to appreciate his skill, his charisma, his sense of humor, his incredible way if manipulating the media, all of that. He truly was Bigger Than Life - but when he lost to Frazier in the Fight Of The Century that brought him down to earth for me and made him seem human. Before he almost seemed supernatural. I mean, for MANY years he was the most recognizable human on Earth. And he became a great ambassador for the US around the world in his later years.

If there was anyone for whom the term "They broke the mold" fits better than anyone else, it's Muhammed Ali. There's never been anyone like him. And there never will be again.

 

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  posted on 4/4/2012 at 09:24 PM
"It's just a job. Grass grows, birds fly, waves pound the sand. I beat people up." Muhammed Ali


I've got this quote on my wall at work. It makes me chuckle....and it makes people think twice when stopping by.

 

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  posted on 4/4/2012 at 09:35 PM
I was always a huge Ali fan when i was younger but later in life after reading several articles the more I learned about the way Joe Frazier went to bat for Ali to get him reinstated in boxing then Ali turned around and humiliated Frazier calling him all those names that Frazier did genuinely feel betrayed by him , it turned me off quite a bit.

 

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  posted on 4/5/2012 at 03:25 AM
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I was always a huge Ali fan when i was younger but later in life after reading several articles the more I learned about the way Joe Frazier went to bat for Ali to get him reinstated in boxing then Ali turned around and humiliated Frazier calling him all those names that Frazier did genuinely feel betrayed by him , it turned me off quite a bit.


He apologized to Frazier recently and I believe they buried the hatchet.

I never liked his calling Frazier a "gorilla" - I was a Smokin' Joe fan before I was an Ali fan and rooted for him in the FOTC - but I always thought it was part of the hype.

Ali made Joe millions that he wouldn't have made without him and he also enhanced his own standing in boxing history by beating Ali. And surviving The Thrilla In Manila. I know Ali said Frazier was the toughest fighter he ever fought after that fight. Pretty good compliment from a guy who rarely gave any back then.

Muhammed Ali today is not the same man he was in in like, 1971. Neither am I. I said and have said a lot of stupid, thoughtless things in my life that I wish I hadn't said. Most of us have and regret it. I'm not going to judge him - he's done a ton of work for charity and I think overall he's done more good than bad.

 

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  posted on 4/5/2012 at 08:19 AM
one of the greatest athletes of all time for sure and I loved watching him fight but after watching an HBO special about the thriller in Manilla and the way he behaved and treated Joe Frazier I lost a lot of respect for him.Also he allowed himself to be used by the nation of Islam and in retrospect his personal behavior outside of the ring from my perspective leaves much to be desired.Another example of why we should stick to appreciating athletes and entertainers for their skills and stay away from the hero worship of the performer as an individual.
 

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  posted on 4/5/2012 at 09:07 AM
Ali changed my life. His athleticism, sense of the moment, and determination were unequaled, and his willingness to put it all on the line for what he believed changed my view of life. He will always be the champ.

I was sleeping in school when I heard the bell ring
I heard that sound and I ain't been the same
A voice on the breeze, radio waves
Opened my mind to the light of day

I've seen the changes you wanted for me
I carried the ball and I died for the team
And when I revived it seemned so unreal
The hate in your eyes when I turned down the deal

You wanted a soldier with a heart cold as ice
You're anger roared when I said, "That ain't right."
You wanted to hound me, but I wouldn't run
Faith will never trade flowers for the gun

I've got a heart as big as the sun
You must be crazy if you think that I'd run
I took it to the heart on the day I believed
You live your life by what you take it to mean

You wanted a soldier with a heart cold as ice
You're anger roared when I said, "That ain't right."
You wanted to hound me, but I wouldn't run
Faith will never trade flowers for the gun


 

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  posted on 4/5/2012 at 01:15 PM
Todays Supreme Court would have never backed Ali rights.

A Great man with the courage of his convictions.
I well remember the hatred he endured for doing the right thing by following his conscience.

I admired him for that as much as his command of the Boxing Ring.

 

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