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  posted on 3/16/2012 at 10:15 PM
I have been going to the Beacon for over 13 years for Allmans shows. I rarely have had to scalp. However, tonight I scalped tix and am now sitting at home. We bought counterfeit tix outside the Beacon, just before the show started and was denied at the door. BEWARE: I bought them from a black gentleman named John in a black hooded Carhart sweatshrt. Turns out, him and his friend in a blue and white Nautica jacket were selling counterfeits. DO NOT buy outside the theatre. It ruined my husband's and my first concert night out in 2 years. The ticket guy at the Beacon had a stack of counterfeits he had collected, so we were not the only ones. My only tip is to try the box office or fans at the bars.
 
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  posted on 3/16/2012 at 11:26 PM
That sucks. You really do have to be careful though. I never buy from scalpers.

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  posted on 3/17/2012 at 12:53 AM
Not trying to sound racist or cruel, but really, how many black people have you seen at Allman Brothers shows through the years? You can pretty much be fully confident they aren't "fans" trying to sell their unused extras. Not to say the ABB doesn't have black fans, they do, but they are probably less than 1% of the fan base from what I've seen, and that is around the whole country.

Frankly, the Beacon should be responsible for keeping these scoundrels far away from the theater but no, they turn a blind eye to the open scalping that happens on the corners, as does the NYPD. Unless you're buying between the doors of the hotel and the doors of the theater, from some real fan who looks desperate to sell the one his friend flaked out on, you're best to pretty much hold on to your money least you be soon parted with it for no darn good reason. Especially on a Friday or Saturday night. Take that from a fan who has seen about 200 Beacon shows by a wide variety of artists in the past 11 years.

 

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  posted on 3/17/2012 at 02:11 AM
SO SORRY! That Sucks
 

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  posted on 3/17/2012 at 11:16 AM
One strategy I've seen used is for a couple to take one ticket and go in to make sure it's a good ticket. That person then calls or signals to the one waiting outside who pays for both tickets and goes in. If a seller is willing to do that (with money shown up front, of course), they probably are not selling fakes.

I bought a fake for Clapton at MSG once. It totally sucks.

 

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  posted on 3/17/2012 at 11:25 AM
w/o being racial as well,that same group of blk guys have been scalpin out front for yrs.i would think the police should be able to shut them down.they act like they ard looking for tix but only to resale,really sucks,plus not cheap, what also stinks is the brokers being able to buy up alot of tix before the fan clubs even get a shot.then they send in the scalpers,B/S

[Edited on 3/17/2012 by rongabbard]

 

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  posted on 3/17/2012 at 01:16 PM
Sorry this happened, indeed.

If the font is funny - the ticket is not real.

Other than that it should be VERY obvious they are fake.

[Edited on 3/17/2012 by Muledog]

 

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  posted on 3/17/2012 at 02:37 PM
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Not trying to sound racist or cruel, but really, how many black people have you seen at Allman Brothers shows through the years? You can pretty much be fully confident they aren't "fans" trying to sell their unused extras. Not to say the ABB doesn't have black fans, they do, but they are probably less than 1% of the fan base from what I've seen, and that is around the whole country.

Frankly, the Beacon should be responsible for keeping these scoundrels far away from the theater but no, they turn a blind eye to the open scalping that happens on the corners, as does the NYPD. Unless you're buying between the doors of the hotel and the doors of the theater, from some real fan who looks desperate to sell the one his friend flaked out on, you're best to pretty much hold on to your money least you be soon parted with it for no darn good reason. Especially on a Friday or Saturday night. Take that from a fan who has seen about 200 Beacon shows by a wide variety of artists in the past 11 years.


Glad you were not trying to sound racist or cruel, but I was offended by your implication that black guys are crooks. You might want to explain your views to your black friends, if you have any.

[Edited on 3/17/2012 by geedub]

 

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  posted on 3/17/2012 at 03:33 PM
Two years ago I went ticketless and there were only expensive tickets being sold by people who looked like non-fans (that is not racist, don't be silly). This one young lady was in tears after being denied entry, she had paid quite a sum.
I would strongly recommend not scalping outside the Beacon. Either try to get a ticket through the forums here or if you must scalp try stubhub.

 

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  posted on 3/17/2012 at 09:13 PM
Honestly. I have to say that the following is predominantly white. I know a few fans who are of color and I've seen a few. Not saying a person of color can't be a fan. There is a difference.

There was a recent article saying that rock music makes a person racist. That is poppy cock. Here's the article, see if you think I'm lying.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2110959/Does-listening-rock- make-racist-Five-minutes-Bruce-Springsteen-makes-students-favour-white-peop le-others.html


I've been to the Beacon a few hundred times in my life. Gov't Mule has a more integrated fan base than the ABB because Warren does soul music too. And that band still has a predominantly white following. Even the Grateful Dead had a predominantly white following, though they probably attracted a larger % of people of color than any of the "rock" Jam bands.

The guys at the corner aren't fans, and there are plenty of white guys selling there too. So beware and look around for 20 minutes before you buy.

I told you where to buy. Between the doors of the hotel and the doors of the theater. That is where a fan feels safe to sell their extras (besides the bar). The Beacon doesn't allow the scalpers to sell in that location between the doors. Scalpers are still able to walk up and down the block. It is a free country right. They walk by and try to talk to people standing there. They will tell you lets go over here, away from the doors where the theater is. So observe for a while and say no the first 5 times your asked. You will see who the pushy seller is and who is the fan who got stiffed by a friend or two.

Real fans sell at cost without the fees to get rid of the ticket. Most sell at a little lower just so they don't have to stand there and sell a ticket.

Hot ticket, be careful. ABB on a Saturday night, esp St Patty's day, tough ticket. Most times otherwise and depending on the band, there are plenty of extras. Believe me the scalpers are laughing at the people who buy as fools, no matter the color.


I'm not afraid to use the word black. I've lived in NYC my whole life and know plenty of all kinds of people. And have lived in an interracial city my whole life. Project your own guilt elsewhere.

And ps, I don't care if you perceive what I say as racist or not. LOL. I know what I'm about!!! I don't come to internet boards to find out what I'm about. And I'm from a tough outer borough and really, I couldn't care less if what I said does sound racist. LOL.



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  posted on 3/17/2012 at 09:19 PM
w/o being racial as well,that same group of blk guys have been scalpin out front for yrs.i would think the police should be able to shut them down.they act like they ard looking for tix but only to resale,really sucks,plus not cheap, what also stinks is the brokers being able to buy up alot of tix before the fan clubs even get a shot.then they send in the scalpers,B/S

[Edited on 3/17/2012 by rongabbard]

You got that right!!!


Out of towners - don't come to the shows without a ticket. It is as simple as that. And I mean if you don't live in the 5 boroughs you should probably heed my warning for a Friday and Sat night for the ABB, especially when they're playing for fewer days than usual.

Yes us five borough people, we don't usually get fooled and can tell who is a scalper or not. (Oh wait I'm grouping all out of towners into one lot of people who can't tell a scalper when they see one.) Unless you're from perhaps the upper east side and prep school educated. LOL... Oh wait, I'm being a class-ist now. LOL.

Sorry, just amusing myself, playing with words.





[Edited on 3/18/2012 by roboto]

 

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  posted on 3/17/2012 at 10:01 PM
I have to say one last thing.

I probably underestimated the proportion of blacks in the fan base. They ABB has been an interracial band in a genre of music (rock music) that doesn't usually attract blacks. It's very odd too because the music is blues based music. Even the Black Keys had a predominantly white audience. Much higher than the older bands, but still I would say the fan base is still predominantly white.

Not sure why that is.

I'll love to hear some black rock musicians talk abut what's it's like to play to largely white audiences.

[Edited on 3/18/2012 by roboto]

 

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  posted on 3/17/2012 at 11:25 PM
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I have been going to the Beacon for over 13 years for Allmans shows. I rarely have had to scalp. However, tonight I scalped tix and am now sitting at home. We bought counterfeit tix outside the Beacon, just before the show started and was denied at the door. BEWARE: I bought them from a black gentleman named John in a black hooded Carhart sweatshrt. Turns out, him and his friend in a blue and white Nautica jacket were selling counterfeits. DO NOT buy outside the theatre. It ruined my husband's and my first concert night out in 2 years. The ticket guy at the Beacon had a stack of counterfeits he had collected, so we were not the only ones. My only tip is to try the box office or fans at the bars.


This happens at least 200 times per night, on average.

This is not new news, you should have known better.

Sorry to be harsh, but this topic has been highlighted repeatedly on this site for at least 4 years.

Wake up people!

 

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  posted on 3/18/2012 at 10:23 AM
(Sorry to be harsh, but this topic has been highlighted repeatedly on this site for at least 4 years.)
doesnt matter that its been beat into our heads,there's always gonna be people who want to go to a show w/o a ticket.and some scumbag will take advantage of that,keep getting the word out who to look for and who to lookout for,,,

 

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  posted on 3/18/2012 at 07:01 PM
I don't think you were being racist and just for the record, some of my best friends are Allman Brothers fans.

 

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  posted on 3/18/2012 at 08:46 PM
So sorry that happened to you. If you do choose to scalp, never exchange money without taking the ticket to the box office or admittance people first...if the scalper won't agree to do it, you can bet that ticket is bogus. And I know of the scalpers to which you refer...been there for years...I wouldn't buy a subway token from them.

 

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  posted on 3/18/2012 at 10:32 PM
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So sorry that happened to you. If you do choose to scalp, never exchange money without taking the ticket to the box office or admittance people first...if the scalper won't agree to do it, you can bet that ticket is bogus. And I know of the scalpers to which you refer...been there for years...I wouldn't buy a subway token from them.
Yup. That guy even had the same Nautica jacket that he was wearing last year.

 

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  posted on 3/19/2012 at 10:46 AM
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Sorry this happened, indeed.

If the font is funny - the ticket is not real.

Other than that it should be VERY obvious they are fake.

[Edited on 3/17/2012 by Muledog]


Not true. Fake tickets in NYC can look *very* real

 

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  posted on 3/19/2012 at 12:46 PM
I might add that this year on the big electronic ad board they were repeatedly running a warning on scalping tix outside the show. Its obvious that there was so many scalped fakes that the management of the Beacon tried to tell all in and around the venue. All ya had to do was look up an read!!

Another way to find out for sure is to take the scalper up to the box office and have the attendent scan the tickets to determine if they are real or not. If the scalper won't go then it is likely the tix are fakes. Ive done it before and the Beacon people are happy to help as these people truly are long a ticket they can't use.

 

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  posted on 3/19/2012 at 08:45 PM
Couldn't you have asked one of the many police officers hanging outside to try and find this douche and arrest him? If they have time to arrest someone for smokin' a little weed outside (stupid idea to do this by the way - smoking outside I mean), then they should be able to help you get your $$$ back. For sure this loser was still hanging out in the area.

Also, I am surprised there is not some sort of scanner (scammer) ap you could get on your phone that would scan the barcode on the ticket and tell you good or bad. If I was a smarter person, I might pursue this idea, but I am not. Maybe someone else will work on it.

 

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  posted on 3/20/2012 at 10:22 AM
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Not trying to sound racist or cruel, but really, how many black people have you seen at Allman Brothers shows through the years? You can pretty much be fully confident they aren't "fans" trying to sell their unused extras. Not to say the ABB doesn't have black fans, they do, but they are probably less than 1% of the fan base from what I've seen, and that is around the whole country.

Frankly, the Beacon should be responsible for keeping these scoundrels far away from the theater but no, they turn a blind eye to the open scalping that happens on the corners, as does the NYPD. Unless you're buying between the doors of the hotel and the doors of the theater, from some real fan who looks desperate to sell the one his friend flaked out on, you're best to pretty much hold on to your money least you be soon parted with it for no darn good reason. Especially on a Friday or Saturday night. Take that from a fan who has seen about 200 Beacon shows by a wide variety of artists in the past 11 years.


Glad you were not trying to sound racist or cruel, but I was offended by your implication that black guys are crooks. You might want to explain your views to your black friends, if you have any.

[Edited on 3/17/2012 by geedub]


What implication, he merely provided a description of the person who sold him the ticket. If the person had been Asian or a Latino, he would have described the person that way, because just saying a man with a black hoodie is pretty non descript, too many people fit that description. If the person had distinguising characteristics, he could have mentioned those, but apparently nothing was obvious that he could mention other than what the man looked like, what he was wearing and the name he used.

 

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  posted on 3/20/2012 at 10:35 AM
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So sorry that happened to you. If you do choose to scalp, never exchange money without taking the ticket to the box office or admittance people first...if the scalper won't agree to do it, you can bet that ticket is bogus. And I know of the scalpers to which you refer...been there for years...I wouldn't buy a subway token from them.


Since the box office and admittance people will tell you if the ticket is real or not then that is the easiest way not to get ripped off. Just tell anyone offerring to sell you a ticket you need confirmation that the "resale" ticket is valid. Don't use the world scalping. As the people at the box office window 'could you please confirm this re-sale ticket(s) is/are valid for tonight's show?

Simple. Those selling phony tickets will not want to let you do it, that's one way you will know. When they tell you, look man I don't want to get caught selling the ticket etc. etc. you say I don't want to get caught being ripped off. Stand up for your rights.

 

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  posted on 3/20/2012 at 10:40 AM
If possible, try to buy a ticket from someone who looks like an Allman Brothers fan, basically someone who looks like you. On Saturday night 3/17 my friend Gary (the self-proclaimed "Mayor of Strawberry Fields") really wanted to get into the show. He did not have a ticket, and did not have money to buy a ticket. So, Gary stood in front of the Beacon Theater saying, "Miracle, miracle!" Gary had on jeans, a jean jacket and a Jerry Garcia t-shirt. After about a half hour of "Miracle, miracle" someone walked up to him and GAVE him a ticket to the show. A $150 ticket for free!!! Gary's miracle worker Saturday night was dressed in jeans and wearing a Greatful Dead t-shirt. Allman Brother fans are usually down to earth, good people. If they are selling tickets they sell them for face, or sometimes less (sometimes alot less) By the way, Gary seat Saturday night was in the 10th row, center orchastra
 

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  posted on 3/20/2012 at 12:53 PM
I'm a younger fan, and I've scalped many times before the shows. I've done the one friend goes in one friend waits outside thing a few times but other than that no problems. Why is this year any different?
 
 


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