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  posted on 3/14/2012 at 11:00 AM
With the 40 yrs since its release, there has been a lot of talk about EAP of late. It got me thinking about why I never seem to share the same level of enthusiasm for that album that many do. Of course, I really like it, but I've always been a bigger fan of the first three records. At first, I thought that it's because it just isn't as bluesy and Ain't wasting Time No More is not among my favorite ABB songs. And I prefer the live versions of Les Brer in A Minor. But I think the real reason is that I started buying up ABB albums in the early nineties when I was in college. At that time, I purchased "The Fillmore Concerts" that included more songs than the original Fillmore release. So, long before I owned EAP, I had heard those versions of Mountain Jam and One Way Out! And of course, I had the "evening with" releases that were new then, and had lots of familiarity with Blue Sky and Melissa already. Anyway, I just think that acquiring that record was a bit anti-climactic the way I came to it. And I really love the first album
Regardless, I hope they do play it in its entirety this weekend for any lucky enough to be there!

[Edited on 3/14/2012 by Vanistheman]

 
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  posted on 3/14/2012 at 11:12 AM
I heard LAFE first, then got EAP when it first came out, then "Beginnings", the repacked compilation of the first two albums. EAP was so wonderful to me at that time, though not on quite the same level as LAFE. Blue Sky jumped on me and has never left. I think one reason it doesn't rank quite as high as FE with me is the reason you mentioned about it not being as bluesy. Still not too shabby though.

 

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  posted on 3/14/2012 at 11:32 AM
I look at EAP as two separate records; the continuation of LAFE and the new songs. Even that has songs with Duane and songs w/o Duane. That is why despite being a great record to listen to there is no cohesion as a whole
 

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  posted on 3/14/2012 at 11:39 AM
EAP is magical....it's transitional.....It's beautiful and it can be sad in it's own right. It shows the direction the band was gonna take even with Duane. Blue Sky and Stand back are both hints at a totally new direction. The second half of Mtn Jam is some of the most compelling music I came across at that time in my life. It showed a band that had deep roots and a pure understanding of all American music. Ain't wasting time no more shows the strength of the people in the band and the ability to take tragedy and use it for art and a release of all the emotions that people go through after a huge loss. I put EAP up there with any album I've ever owned...a masterpiece

 

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  posted on 3/14/2012 at 12:19 PM


I love this album, even if it just contained the studio music;

Ain't Wasting Time No More
Les Brers In A Minor
Melissa
Stand Back
Blue Sky
Little Martha

Man, those tunes alone make one hell of an album.

 

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  posted on 3/14/2012 at 12:34 PM
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EAP is magical....it's transitional.....It's beautiful and it can be sad in it's own right. It shows the direction the band was gonna take even with Duane. Blue Sky and Stand back are both hints at a totally new direction. The second half of Mtn Jam is some of the most compelling music I came across at that time in my life. It showed a band that had deep roots and a pure understanding of all American music. Ain't wasting time no more shows the strength of the people in the band and the ability to take tragedy and use it for art and a release of all the emotions that people go through after a huge loss. I put EAP up there with any album I've ever owned...a masterpiece


In a sense we are saying the same thing in two different ways - a bridge - vs - two records

 

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  posted on 3/14/2012 at 01:02 PM
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I look at EAP as two separate records; the continuation of LAFE and the new songs.


Agreed. This recording was my intro to the Brothers and will always be my fave.

'Nuff said.

 

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  posted on 3/14/2012 at 01:59 PM
EAP was my 1st ABB record, acquiring it at the ripe old age of 11. I was familiar with AFE because of an older neighbor friend, but cut my teeth on EAP. Melissa and Little Martha are two of my favorites, although they do make me feel a little melancholy. Mountain Jam, especially on CD in its 33 minute entirety, is really hard to beat. It's a be all, end all jam. Although some of the studio tracks on EAP don't have any Duane licks in them, I feel like AFE and EAP are on equal ground. To me, the sound noticeably changed with Brothers & Sisters. Just my opinion, though.

 

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  posted on 3/14/2012 at 02:01 PM
I never thought of it quite that way, but you're right that it's not a very bluesy album. I'd thought of it as being mellow. The only blues songs on the album are the live versions of One Way Out and Trouble No More. The post-Duane tracks (other than Les Brers) have some hints at the country influences that were going to come out in the next few albums, and Little Martha and Blue Sky fit in with that direction, too. Stand Back has more of a funk sound and so does Les Brers, in a different way.

 

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  posted on 3/14/2012 at 02:07 PM
I think I still remember where the 8-track changed tracks in Mountain Jam.....in Berry's solo.
 
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  posted on 3/14/2012 at 02:52 PM
Man I have been listening to the Live from the Sirius studios "Re-creating " classic albums. Eat a Peach with the new line up. I can't get enough of it.

Just love it

 

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  posted on 3/14/2012 at 02:54 PM
It's my favorite ABB album and it stands a logical companion to the Fillmore. As much as I love the Fillmore record and I do put that as the best live album ever, I think Melissa and Blue Sky put EAP over the top in terms of capturing the flip side of the balls out blues of the ABB which is that almost dreamy lazy southern vibe that you don't get on the Fillmore but see hints of in the first 2 records.

How's that for a run on sentence ?

I was familiar with the Dreams box set and the Fillmore album in 89. I was in high school and there was a lot of buzz about the first beacon run but I was more into the Who and Stones tours that year. I missed that first one but my friends raved about it. Anyway, I didn't really know EAP but my friend had the shirt with the iconic truck on the front and shroom on the back. I knew I had to get the CD.

So there was this party on the other side of town I was walking to. You had to cross the main strip to get there and there was CD store on the way, so I stopped in and bought it and kept it in my pocket. This was when the CD's where in those long boxes to prevent theft. Some printer made a fortune in that era for sure. I digress....

Anyway, I had this CD in my jacket all night at this typical Long Island parents weren't home party. Beer, girls etc... It was great but I couldn't wait to hear the full EAP and I knew putting it on at a party wouldn't do. So I got home real buzzed up and put on the head phones like the kid in the Dazed and Confused movie and it was like a whole new world opened up. Standard radio classic rock faded away and it was all ABB all the time for a long time with a smattering of Grateful Dead and Little Feat.

I always wanted to know what the jam was at the end of Fillmore East's Whipping Post and low and behold there it was ! MOUNTAIN JAM in all it's 33 minute glory. Holy crap !! "2, 3 , 4 !!" back into the melody after Berry's solo. I almost couldn't take it. Who the hell where these guys and why was i just hearing this now ?

Then the album just kept going after the peak of the end of MJ. Blue Sky was a favorite from the Dreams box set but to hear it close out the album with Little Martha in this context was amazing.

As someone else said, the sadness is in the ABB story is all there along with the triumphs of 71. It's really the whole enchilada of the first phase of the ABB to me.

This carried on into 7 turns and seeing them for the first time in 90 and never looking back. I'm sure there are kids discovering this record the same way I did. Maybe on the I-pod now but the music and vibe is still the same. The soul of the music carries through and stands the test of time like few other records i know.


 

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  posted on 3/14/2012 at 04:10 PM
Great thread with Goldtop's being the stand out among equals IMHO.

 

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  posted on 3/14/2012 at 07:58 PM
I really like Greil Marcus's assessment of Eat a Peach (written, I believe, around 1978):

"The endless boogie didn't wear out, but it was stopped in its tracks. Following the violent deaths that broke the band, one noticed the reveries, guitarists' bids for peace of mind: the after-the-rain celebrations of Blue Sky, and the ageless, seamless face of Little Martha, front-porch music stolen from the utopia of shared southern memory."

 

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EAP is magical....it's transitional.....It's beautiful and it can be sad in it's own right. It shows the direction the band was gonna take even with Duane. Blue Sky and Stand back are both hints at a totally new direction. The second half of Mtn Jam is some of the most compelling music I came across at that time in my life. It showed a band that had deep roots and a pure understanding of all American music. Ain't wasting time no more shows the strength of the people in the band and the ability to take tragedy and use it for art and a release of all the emotions that people go through after a huge loss. I put EAP up there with any album I've ever owned...a masterpiece


A fantastic post. Very well written.

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  posted on 3/14/2012 at 11:09 PM
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I think I still remember where the 8-track changed tracks in Mountain Jam.....in Berry's solo.


HA! Me too!

What a mind-altering experience......!

 

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  posted on 3/14/2012 at 11:10 PM
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It's my favorite ABB album and it stands a logical companion to the Fillmore. As much as I love the Fillmore record and I do put that as the best live album ever, I think Melissa and Blue Sky put EAP over the top in terms of capturing the flip side of the balls out blues of the ABB which is that almost dreamy lazy southern vibe that you don't get on the Fillmore but see hints of in the first 2 records.

How's that for a run on sentence ?


Excellent.

 

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  posted on 3/15/2012 at 08:53 AM
I love EAP. to me it's on the same level as the other first 3 lps and possibly brothers and sisters as well. I played my hi-fidelity vinyl copy with the new speakers 2 days ago and it blew me out. The depth and dynamic of bo bass playing is incredible! Les Bres, Blue Sky and Stand Back sound marvelous. I remember when i was 12 or 13, spent a few weeks in england to learn the language (i'm italian) and went to every record shop to buy a copy for my father. Couldn't find it in the end...
Bought a cd copy myself 3 or 4 years ago. Duane's solo on MJ brought a smile of pleasure on my face. I think that solo is truly one of the best things DA ever played or recorded, something that cheers me up everytime i'm down or tired.
The only minor issue is that it's more of a compilation of different material, rather than a complete body of work. But as was pointed out before, it's a transitional album, very well put together and compiled. Can't really place it at number 1,2, 5, 6 of my personal chart, it's just perfect at the given time and place.
Still sounds very fresh today, plenty of mileage left in it for the younger generations to discover and enjoy.

 

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  posted on 3/15/2012 at 09:33 AM
i very much enjoyed reading your post tammars
 

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I really like Greil Marcus's assessment of Eat a Peach (written, I believe, around 1978):

"The endless boogie didn't wear out, but it was stopped in its tracks. Following the violent deaths that broke the band, one noticed the reveries, guitarists' bids for peace of mind: the after-the-rain celebrations of Blue Sky, and the ageless, seamless face of Little Martha, front-porch music stolen from the utopia of shared southern memory."


Interesting since Blue Sky and Little Martha were recorded before any violent deaths broke the band.

 

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  posted on 3/15/2012 at 12:10 PM
Eat a Peach has an interesting symmetry. 3 original songs were recorded before Duane's Death and can logically be seen as where the Band was going in terms of an evolving sound, Blue SKy, Stand Back and Little Martha (I think Gregg did the vocal track for SB after Duane's death but Duane plays on it) 3 original songs were recorded after Duane's death. Two were written in response to his death, Ain't Wasting Time No More and Les Brers in A Minor and one was an old song but a favorite of Duane's which they likely were planning to record anyway, Melissa. And three were live tracks with Duane, Mt. Jam, Trouble No More and One Way Out. Of course Mt. Jam is practically an album by itself.

 

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  posted on 3/15/2012 at 01:56 PM
EAP is freeking off the charts good ..... will always be so just the way it is somethings just are plain good and EAP is one of them.
 

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  posted on 3/15/2012 at 02:58 PM
By itself the gatefold album cover for EAP has provided hours of enjoyment.

 

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  posted on 3/15/2012 at 03:01 PM
I think EAP is an excellent album but if there was one allman song I wouldnt miss if i never heard it again it would be melissa....everytime they play that song live i cringe,dont know why but it just bores me in a way few allman brothers songs do
 

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I think EAP is an excellent album but if there was one allman song I wouldnt miss if i never heard it again it would be melissa....everytime they play that song live i cringe,dont know why but it just bores me in a way few allman brothers songs do


Well, considering that for many casual fans it is their favorite, you are definitely in the minority....

 

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