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Author: Subject: Why Is Van Halen Touring?, Valerie Bertinelli Says It Is "Because Eddie Gets To Play With His Son"

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  posted on 3/12/2012 at 08:10 AM
http://www.eddietrunk.com/index.cfm/pk/view/cd/NAA/cdid/434186/pid/400512

Eddie Van Halen's ex wife, Hot In Cleveland actress Valerie Bertinelli, spoke with WRIF Detroit’s Drew and Mike show about the band and how her son, Wolfgang, is coping out on the road.


“Wolfie can definitely back up everything with his playing," she said. "You can’t deny that he is an excellent bass player and an excellent musician, his voice is amazing.”


She also addressed the issue that Van Halen fans are upset that founding bassist Michael Anthony is no longer in the band. “I loved Mike too, I thought he was a really nice guy, still do,” Bertinelli explains. “But the only way this tour is happening is because Eddie gets to play with his son Wolfie. Otherwise, this tour wouldn’t be going on, it really wouldn’t. This brings joy to Ed, and that’s what he wants to do now, just have fun playing. As great as Mike is, this wouldn’t be happening if Mike was still in the band.”


She also has a message “for any of the fans that are truly angry that Mike’s not in the band… at least they get to see a version of the band. You’re getting to see Dave and Ed and Al play together. I know I’m a little prejudiced but.. my son kicks ass! And Ed’s playing better than ever, you’ve gotta give him that.”


The actress also revealed that her son has been taking lots of vocal courses — “he does his homework!” — and got his high school degree just recently after missing much of the 11th grade due to being out on the band’s 2007/08 tour.


Did she have any words of warning for her former sparring partner David Lee Roth, about how to treat her child on the road? “No, Dave doesn’t need to have any words from me. He’s a grown man, he knows how to treat people. Everything with Dave is water under the bridge. I think he’s doing an amazing job. I run into him very infrequently, but when we do it’s always pleasant.”


As to why she’s so friendly with her ex and his bandmates: “With age comes wisdom, I guess. I always choose to look at the good side. These are really great people. This is my son. I just want him to be happy. And this is a dream come true for Ed.”



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  posted on 3/12/2012 at 08:32 AM
Interesting post; Valerie seems like a very cool lady. Thanks. I read an interview with her some years back about she and Eddie's breakup. She said the time had come, there was a lot of sex going on outside the marriage, and not just by Eddie; she said she screwed around just as much as he did. Not many women (OR men) would admit to that.

 

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  posted on 3/12/2012 at 10:02 AM
man..........when I was a pup. Valerie was the girl !


.............and Raquel was the woman

 

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  posted on 3/12/2012 at 11:11 AM
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man..........when I was a pup. Valerie was the girl !



Have you seen Valerie lately? She lost a lot of weight and is looking very, very hot these days.

 

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  posted on 3/12/2012 at 02:05 PM
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man..........when I was a pup. Valerie was the girl !



Have you seen Valerie lately? She lost a lot of weight and is looking very, very hot these days.


She was the girl then, but I always like Mackenzie Phillips more. New she'd be fun for a weekend in Vegas.

 

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  posted on 3/12/2012 at 02:36 PM
This should shut up all of the Michael Anthony supporters. Bottom line is without Wolfgang there would be no Van Halen and they are bringing it better than they have in decades right now. I say thank God for Wolfgang and the rejuvenation of his daddy!!!

 

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  posted on 3/12/2012 at 02:47 PM
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This should shut up all of the Michael Anthony supporters. Bottom line is without Wolfgang there would be no Van Halen and they are bringing it better than they have in decades right now. I say thank God for Wolfgang and the rejuvenation of his daddy!!!
Pete, while I agree that there might not be a tour now if it weren't for Wolfgang, to say that the MA supporters should shut up is a farce, because you can't deny that EVH gave him the shaft simply because he remained a friend of Sammy's after Sammy's split from the band. That's grade school bullsh!t to me, and despite the fact the band is as good as ever, it doesn't change what happened with Mike. He got screwed out of the band, plain and simple. It's no reflection on Wolfgang. He's developed a nice set of skills.

The band sounds great...but I'd rather see MA in the bass slot for old time's sake.

 

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  posted on 3/12/2012 at 03:06 PM
Michael Anthony got the boot not for just being friends with Sammy but for going on tour with him and playing Van Halen songs. They took that as a slap in the face and I can understand that. I don't think Michael Anthony got the shaft at all and if he did I think it was self induced. Nothing wrong with him touring with Sammy either but he had to know that Alex and Eddie wouldn't take kindly to him touring with Sammy who had been bad mouthing them. I like MA and wish him well but IMO he brought on his getting booted from VH himself. He sealed his fate when he decided to go on tour with Sammy playing Van Halen music.

 

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  posted on 3/12/2012 at 03:08 PM
I agree with BDOB on this. To me, Valerie is just describing the problem but presenting it as if she's explaining why we shouldn't be put off at the exclusion of MA in "the reunion". I think we all know that without Wolf that EVH would still be in a toothless, drunken stupor up at 5150 with a bottle of cheap Smoking Loon in one hand. And I think all of the MA supporters agree that the current situation is better than that alternative. On that point, I applaud Wolfie for getting his dad off his butt and basically saving his life. But that doesn't mean we still can't be a little bit pissed off at the Brothers (or EVH more specifically) for acting like a freaking 5 year old who takes his ball home when he starts losing the game. I mean, VH fans have basically waited 25 years for a reunion of the original lineup, and EVH can't even get that right.

And here's the thing. Everyone keeps talking about it as if it's about Wolfie and M.A. is just sort of SOL b/c EVH's son happens to play M.A.'s instrument. But EVH tried sacking Mikey in 2004, and Hagar was the one who made it happen that Mikey was included on that reunion tour. At that time Wolfie was too young to have been selected as the replacement bassist, so don't make it about this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for EVH to play with his son. It's not like EVH couldn't have started a solo band if it were only about the opportunity to play with his son. And we all know about the rumors that EVH has off-and-on considered replacing Mikey over the years, as far back as Fair Warning era. Billy Sheehan has said as much publicly that he was approached back around that time.

 

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  posted on 3/12/2012 at 03:29 PM
I actually don't think Mikey playing with Sammy or going out on the Sam & Dave tour with Sammy was the cause of it. I think it was just the cover for EVH/AVH to make the move that he had wanted to make for a long long time. I mean, it's not like the Brothers haven't invited both Sam and Dave back into the fold after the Sam & Dave tour. So it's more than just because Mikey went out playing VH songs without VH.

I've never met the guys, so I can only speculate. And I know anything Sammy writes has to be interpreted through the Sammy lens. But one thing, or recurring theme, I sort of picked up on is that EVH is bitter about other people getting rich off him. Or the perception anyway, that others have gotten rich off him or screwed him or what have you. The Cabo Wabo branding (nightclub, restaurants, tequila, etc.) is just one example. I know it's Sammy's version, but he did mention that VH (the band/company) was never particularly business savvy and had some terrible deals in place when he and his manager came into the fold in '86. And that the '04 tour was done b/c AVH was broke. Anyway, very long way of saying that EVH may have a perception that Mikey is the bad guy b/c he's never contributed much but has always taken an equal share... in effect, getting rich off what the "other 3" were creating. And Hagar has also said that Mikey was very smart managing his money, so that could have exacerbated the perception that Mikey was getting rich off their backs. I dunno. Just speculation on my part, but just the feeling I've gotten when putting everything together is that a lot of resentment built up over the years.

 

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  posted on 3/12/2012 at 05:07 PM
I dont know what to think about Mike not playing in the band and Wolf in. Yes I would have like to seen Mike involved, but it's all working out fine with Wolf for sure .
Read many of your thoughts on that issue...who knows. I think if EVH really wanted him out years ago, it would have happened. Mike just proabably got tired of waiting around for the VH brothers to do something and wanted to play and was given the chance. At this stage of the game things are winding down in life.

I just got done watching Hang Em High from the other night. Great song, glad to see they are breaking that stuff out.
EVH looks like he is having a blast up there and he enjoys having Wolf. Who would not want there son/daughter up there perfroming with them? I love jamming with my son, it 's a blast !!! Proud papa he is and should be!!!


[Edited on 3/12/2012 by jszfunk]

 

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  posted on 3/13/2012 at 08:58 AM
"And that the '04 tour was done b/c AVH was broke." This and the fact that Sam wanted to open more cantinas but would have to pay the VH brothers (and possibly Mike) a share of the profits from any future cantinas as this was the deal they came to when Sam initially left in '95. In return for touring in 2004, Sam was granted full ownership and no longer had to pay a share to the previous other owners. Note that not long after the tour in 2004 was announced Sam did open additional cantinas. Alex made some much needed dough and Sam got what he wanted. Meanwhile Eddie was a complete mess and had no business performing for money. So when you hear Hagar mention how the 2004 tour was purely for the fans, he's not telling the whole story. The entire thing was about money.....as many tours are.

With regard to Mike, it's no secret he never wrote a note of music and made a boatload of money in publishing income despite this. It's why they redid their writing split in the early 80's as he wasn't nor had written any of the music. And I still say he was indeed booted because he toured with Hagar in 2002 who at the time was public enemy number one. Do I agree with it? No, I think it's childish. But I'm not EVH. Who along with my brother wrote most if not all of the music that made it all happen. As someone once pointed out, Mike wasn't sitting in a studio all hours of the night, day after day writing and recording to meet record label deadlines, etc.

It's easy for us as fans to criticize the actions of these guys but we weren't there when all this **** went down. Just as we don't know all the issues within the ABB with regard to membership, money, publishing rites, writing credit, other business dealings, personalities, splitting up the work load, etc....In the end I'm just happy to hear new VH music and am delighted we may get more in the future. And Mike's better off anyway and good for him.

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  posted on 3/13/2012 at 09:33 AM
As stated here, Mike's issues started long before any tour with Sammy.
Along with the stories mentioned, it should also reflect that EVH had been recording bass parts for years.

 

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  posted on 3/13/2012 at 11:30 AM
Gee....I saw Van Halen alot between 1978 and 1983. The person who did the most mis-cues and sang out of key the most was Michael Anthony. Sure the other guys had their fair share of similar issues, but he NEVER had a solid show that I witnessed. I saw shows where Eddie dropped the ball. Alex missed parts of fills and Dave "forgot" lyrics. But I saw them nail it alot. They were never a perfect band onstage, at least they were not in the leauge that Aerosmith was in as far as crappy performances went.

Like already said....Mr Anthony is in a place where he can stretch his legs out. The past is gone. In my mind, the reunion was the last tour. This one is something else.

 

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  posted on 3/13/2012 at 03:06 PM
So would it be safe to say ,according to the other posts on here, that Mike is a non contributor to Chickenfoot?

 

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  posted on 3/13/2012 at 03:24 PM
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So would it be safe to say ,according to the other posts on here, that Mike is a non contributor to Chickenfoot?




I wouldn't say that. He is allowed to play now at least.

 

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  posted on 3/14/2012 at 11:40 AM
Hagar stated in an interview after the first Chickenfoot release that Mike is not a songwriter and doesn't contribute to the writing. Whether that changed on the second release or will in the future is anyone's guess. I would guess not....
 

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  posted on 3/14/2012 at 12:06 PM
Mike is a good guy and i would have liked him involved from a history standpoint. But he has never been a strong bassist let alone a songwriter. They divided the credits early on and he is pretty lucky to have that as it has made him rich. Truth is that he was in the right place at the right time.

On the flipside, not having to endure his bass solo will be a highlight of any show that I see without him. Used to just be noise while he pretended to be downing a bottle of Jack. Bunch of effects and delay and just bash the strings. I have seen that solo on each tour and often multiple times and not once did he ever try to impress with some playing. I know the others wanted a drink and whatever but 5 minutes of that crap was always a waste of time. made Gene Simmons bass solo look almost good. But at least Gene was spitting up blood and flying around the stage like a bat.

Mike is an awesome guy and fun to have a beer with but isn't going to make or break any band. Plus as mentioned his backing vocals live are not what some seem to remember. Lots of out of tune and all those high pitched shrieks were out of control depending on how many of those beers he had.

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  posted on 3/14/2012 at 12:33 PM
I think this topic has been discussed more here than on the VH board.

 

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  posted on 3/14/2012 at 12:47 PM
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I think this topic has been discussed more here than on the VH board.


As a frequent visitor to vhlinks.com, I can assure you were aren't even close on this site. Over there this conversation has been ongoing since he was almost not included in the 2004 greatest hits package and ensuing tour.

One thing I would add is that Wolfie is getting a great deal of support and props on that site from long time fans on his playing on the album and this current tour. Everyone seems to agree that it'd be nice if Mike was on board from a historical point of view, but that the youngster is for real and is probably why, as Valerie points out, we have any form of VH in 2012....In short, many people are coming around and acknowledging his obvious skills and potential as a musician. Some even grateful for him probably saving not only his dad's life, but the band's as well.

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  posted on 3/14/2012 at 01:58 PM
DLR laying down the law to a couple people fighting at the VH show last night:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtIBd0BHocg&feature=player_embedded#!


 
 


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