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  posted on 2/23/2012 at 02:57 AM
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Georgia Democrats propose limitations on vasectomies for men


As members of Georgia’s House of Representatives debate whether to prohibit abortions for women more than 20 weeks pregnant, House Democrats introduced their own reproductive rights plan: No more vasectomies that leave "thousands of children ... deprived of birth."

Rep. Yasmin Neal, a Democrat from the Atlanta suburb of Jonesboro, planned on Wednesday to introduce HB 1116, which would prevent men from vasectomies unless needed to avert serious injury or death.

The bill reads: "It is patently unfair that men avoid the rewards of unwanted fatherhood by presuming that their judgment over such matters is more valid than the judgment of the General Assembly. ... It is the purpose of the General Assembly to assert an invasive state interest in the reproductive habits of men in this state and substitute the will of the government over the will of adult men."

“If we legislate women’s bodies, it’s only fair that we legislate men’s,” said Neal, who said she wanted to write bill that would generate emotion and conversation the way anti-abortion bills do. “There are too many problems in the state. Why are you under the skirts of women? I’m sure there are other places to be."

Personally, Neal said, she has no qualms with vasectomies.

“But even if it were proposed as a serious issue,” she said, “it’s still not my place as a woman to tell a man what to do with his body."

The anti-vasectomy bill was a response to a bill that would punish abortions performed after the 20th week of pregnancy with prison sentences between one and 10 years. Georgia law currently prohibits abortion after the second trimester, except to preserve the life and health of the mother. Neal's bill borrows some language directly from the anti-abortion bill.

The anti-abortion bill makes exceptions to avert death or “serious risk of substantial and irreversible physical impairment of a major bodily function” of the mother, but doesn’t include “diagnosis or claim of a mental or emotional condition.” If an abortion occurs after the 20th week, the bill requires doctors to attempt to deliver a living baby.

Earlier discussions about the bill have been “outstanding,” said Rep. Doug McKillip, a Republican from Athens, Georgia, who introduced the anti-abortion bill this month. He said legislators are “drilling down" on questions about when a fetus can feel pain and what exceptions can allow abortions later in pregnancy, and he expects more testimony late this week.

“I’m just disappointed in my colleague, that they would take this opportunity to make light of a very important topic,” McKillip said. “I believe this is a serious topic deserving of serious debate. It feels like a poor attempt at humor.”

Neal said she's serious about making legislators recognize women's rights to make private decisions about their bodies.

"I hope that through the madness this has caused, it gets him to understand where the woman is coming from," she said. "There are a number of women in other states trying the same ploys we’re trying here."

Earlier this month, Democratic Oklahoma Sen. Constance Johnson added – then withdrew – a provision to an anti-abortion bill that read "any action in which a man ejaculates or otherwise deposits semen anywhere but in a woman's vagina shall be interpreted and construed as an action against an unborn child." The state Senate passed the bill this month.

In January, as the Virginia state Senate debated a bill that required women to have an ultrasound before an abortion, Democrat Janet Howell attached an amendment that required men to have rectal exams and cardiac stress tests before they could receive prescriptions for erectile dysfunction medication like Viagra. The amendment was rejected in the Senate, 21-19.

CNN affiliate WAVY reported that hundreds gathered this week to protest the ultrasound bill, which is up for a vote in Virginia's House of Delegates, and another that says life begins at conception.

On the Georgia House floor, Neal doesn't anticipate her anti-vasectomy bill will generate much serious debate.

"If it moves anywhere," she said, "that’ll be a very interesting day."

 

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  posted on 2/23/2012 at 06:58 PM
Every Sperm is Sacred....


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  posted on 2/24/2012 at 02:32 PM
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[Edited on 2/24/2012 by gina]

 

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  posted on 2/24/2012 at 03:07 PM

 

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  posted on 2/24/2012 at 08:00 PM
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Earlier this month, Democratic Oklahoma Sen. Constance Johnson added – then withdrew – a provision to an anti-abortion bill that read "any action in which a man ejaculates or otherwise deposits semen anywhere but in a woman's vagina shall be interpreted and construed as an action against an unborn child." The state Senate passed the bill this month.


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  posted on 2/24/2012 at 08:07 PM
Well, so much for the "money shot".

 

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  posted on 2/24/2012 at 08:16 PM
Georgia Democrats Introduce Anti-Vasectomy Bill

You have got to be kidding.....

 

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  posted on 2/24/2012 at 08:39 PM
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Georgia Democrats Introduce Anti-Vasectomy Bill

You have got to be kidding.....


You do realize that this was done as sarcasm to show how ridiculous an opposing bill is, right? Unlike Santorum, I don't think you would ever have a Democraat with a serious bill that would limit a choice of a persons birth control.

 

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  posted on 2/24/2012 at 08:44 PM
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Georgia Democrats Introduce Anti-Vasectomy Bill

You have got to be kidding.....


You do realize that this was done as sarcasm to show how ridiculous an opposing bill is, right?


I do now

 

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  posted on 2/24/2012 at 09:19 PM
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Georgia Democrats Introduce Anti-Vasectomy Bill

You have got to be kidding.....


You do realize that this was done as sarcasm to show how ridiculous an opposing bill is, right?


I do now



Do you think DFC does?

 

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  posted on 2/24/2012 at 09:30 PM
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Georgia Democrats Introduce Anti-Vasectomy Bill

You have got to be kidding.....


You do realize that this was done as sarcasm to show how ridiculous an opposing bill is, right?


I do now



Do you think DFC does?


Not in a million.............................

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  posted on 2/26/2012 at 04:37 PM
At first, I thought the GA Assembly was serious. It is being done to show a point, but it is not funny. I guess another way would be no insurance for male enhancemnet drugs and/or sexual performing drugs like Viagra.

The real point here is when, when, will it be that if you do not want an abortion for whatever reason: rape, incest, seriously hramed fetus, mother's life in danger, then DON'T HAVE ONE!!!!!!
If it is against your beliefs, then don't have one.
It is your right not to have this procedure.
It is others right , if they need to this, to have this.

 

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  posted on 2/26/2012 at 07:42 PM
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At first, I thought the GA Assembly was serious. It is being done to show a point, but it is not funny. I guess another way would be no insurance for male enhancemnet drugs and/or sexual performing drugs like Viagra.

The real point here is when, when, will it be that if you do not want an abortion for whatever reason: rape, incest, seriously hramed fetus, mother's life in danger, then DON'T HAVE ONE!!!!!!
If it is against your beliefs, then don't have one.
It is your right not to have this procedure.
It is others right , if they need to this, to have this.



Let's not forget penile implants and pumps. The politicans are all for a guy getting it up but not at all concerned with the ramifications of all that testosterone. For them, life begins with ejaculation and ends at birth.

 

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  posted on 2/27/2012 at 03:50 AM
How about a three strikes you're out law, for both men and women ?

Three unwanted pregnancies and you're sterilized. Bam. Snip. Done.

No choice, no rights, no ethical debates, no nothing, you're a stupid idiot and you're not qualified to be fertile, because you don't want to reproduce, so pony up and get sterilized. Because reproduction is a social phenomenon and at that point your actions are affecting society at large, so no way, you can't have some private little trip where you keep having unwanted pregnancies. Whether you abort or adopt out or whatever, it creates social havoc.

Gives you a chance the first time to be a dumb idiot or some other poor choice or some horrible involuntary scenario the first time, forgiven, second time leaves room for maybe an accident, the birth control didn't work or whatever, but still by now you're becoming a problem and menace to yourself and society, so you get your warning, then, third time, sterilization because you're an irresponsible nuckfut who shouldn't be having sex in the first place. Also would get rid of those nasty abortion mills. And level the playing field so it wouldn't end up just wealthy people able to have private abortions while poor people have the rusty coat hanger.

Same for men, of course. Three strikes, you are out of the ball game, no more home runs, Babe Ruth.

Seems like a reasonable compromise between the draconian unenforceable total outlawing of abortion and the mouthbreathing roundheels who go in for abortions on a routine basis, which is just gross, let's face it.
So, you max out at three abortions, and it's over. Gives you plenty of room to be self motivated and ethical about avoiding pregnancy, cuts you some slack while you're getting through your life's lessons, but then stops you when you have obviously failed to learn.

If this gets the pro life and pro choice camps equally pissed off, then I think I might be on to something here !



[Edited on 2/27/2012 by scrambldybones]

 

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  posted on 2/27/2012 at 10:36 AM
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Well, so much for the "money shot".



No money shot is still there it is just not viable...

 

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  posted on 2/28/2012 at 10:49 AM
http://turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=377180

You can't make this stuff up.

 

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